Thought on this 18238 Day Date 18K Gold Green face??

[PresidentialTime]

Hey guys, I am new here!

Just came across this green face all gold day date Rolex presidential ref: 18238in my local area. Just wondering what you guys think about this? Is it worth scooping up as an investment piece for the near short term?

Thanks!
Ajay

Edit: Sorry, I guess the pics didn’t turn out the best quality after being resized.

Buyer wants 23K CAD

[chocopeluche]

The green dial looks aftermarket, and isn’t a good one IMO.

If you want to buy something as an “investment” you’ll want better condition. Probably something unpolished. These can be found if you keep looking for similar price as youve quoted.

[PresidentialTime]

Originally Posted by chocopeluche

The green dial looks aftermarket, and isn’t a good one IMO.

If you want to buy something as an “investment” you’ll want better condition. Probably something unpolished. These can be found if you keep looking for similar price as youve quoted.

Not sure if the dial is after market, apparently it was sourced from out east.

Either an investment, or looking into a flip here, with the added white dial maybe providing a bonus?

Thanks for the opinion!

[zapokee]

Buy blue-chip stocks if you want an investment.

Watches are a hobby to be enjoyed. They're not an investment, unless you're at pristine auction level spending hundreds of grand. Or more.

That said, you probably won't lose money with a nice vintage piece.

[jgottsman11]

That is not an investment

[chocopeluche]

Dial has to be aftermarket, they're trying to mimic this one from the current catalog but the colors are off.



https://www.rolex.com/watches/day-da...8238-0069.html

Putting these modern degrade aside, the ones before were all lacquer but yours is shiny. If you can find a genuine Rolex configuration with that dial please share.

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by jgottsman11

That is not an investment

Investment piece w a ugly ass green dial…….summs up the new Rolex flipper…..

[crowncollection]

Aftermarket dial. I would pass


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[chocopeluche]

As others have said watches arent great investments, but I think you can find VALUE in certain Rolex gold pieces. Im personally biased to Oysterquartz because I like the looks and dont care that its quartz. So IMO this one on HQMilton is worth looking at and its in almost perfect condition - https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...day-date-A4542




And Ill add that its priced well below the piece you shared.

[PresidentialTime]

Thanks for the insight guys, not going to go through with it

[1665fan]

A ss steel Daytona is an investment…..aftermarket dial president…..is the opposite….

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by chocopeluche

IMO this one on HQMilton is worth looking at and its in almost perfect condition - https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...day-date-A4542

It's nice, but the original wide chamfers are gone. The chamfers are the whole point of an OQ case.

[chocopeluche]

Originally Posted by zapokee

It's nice, but the original wide chamfers are gone. The chamfers are the whole point of an OQ case.

Its an N variant with vertical brushing, rounded links, and no chamfers. I cant say for certain its unpolished but it looks close.

[indianmachine]

hmm interesting does the datejust have the chamafer but the DD don't? For instance: https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...npolished-1330

[chocopeluche]

Originally Posted by indianmachine

hmm interesting does the datejust have the chamafer but the DD don't? For instance: https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...npolished-1330

All datejust's have the chamfer, and their case shapes + bracelet's remained the same throughout the entire run.

The first day-dates 19018 & 19019's have the chamfer (like the datejusts) with horizontal brushing.




Later ones after ~1986 having refs 19018N & 19019N, are no chamfer with vertical brushing, also all pyramid variants 19028, 19038.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by chocopeluche

All datejust's have the chamfer, and their case shapes + bracelet's remained the same throughout the entire run.

The first day-dates 19018 & 19019's have the chamfer (like the datejusts) with horizontal brushing.

Later ones after ~1986 having refs 19018N & 19019N, are no chamfer with vertical brushing, also all pyramid variants 19028, 19038.

Thank you for the lesson. I honestly thought that the alternative you mentioned to the OP was in fact a ruined Oysterquartz. Now I know better

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by chocopeluche

All datejust's have the chamfer, and their case shapes + bracelet's remained the same throughout the entire run.

Later ones after ~1986 having refs 19018N & 19019N, are no chamfer with vertical brushing, also all pyramid variants 19028, 19038.

Well, I'll be darned. Every day's a school day. Thanks for the info!

That's why this forum is so awesome. We're all learning.

[WiseRat]

As others have pointed out already, that dial looks aftermarket. The case also looks like its been polished a few times. Its a little hard to tell from the photo, but the bezel flutes look a little off as well. Possibly re-cut or an aftermarket bezel.

For reference, here's my unpolished factory degrade dial day date. As far as I know, the degrade dials only came in blue, oxblood and brown.

[Animo Felonico]

Originally Posted by chocopeluche

As others have said watches arent great investments, but I think you can find VALUE in certain Rolex gold pieces. Im personally biased to Oysterquartz because I like the looks and dont care that its quartz. So IMO this one on HQMilton is worth looking at and its in almost perfect condition - https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...day-date-A4542




And Ill add that its priced well below the piece you shared.

It's now marked as "pending" sale. What was the asking price on that 19018?

[miamiclay]

Originally Posted by WiseRat

As far as I know, the degrade dials only came in blue, oxblood and brown.

You believe all of the older 5-digit green vignette / degrade DD dials are aftermarket?

[chocopeluche]

Originally Posted by Animo Felonico

It's now marked as "pending" sale. What was the asking price on that 19018?

I think it was $14,850

[Animo Felonico]

Originally Posted by chocopeluche

I think it was $14,850

Thanks!

[WiseRat]

Originally Posted by miamiclay

You believe all of the older 5-digit green vignette / degrade DD dials are aftermarket?

I stand corrected, there was a green degrade dial as well in the 5-digit day dates. But its color green was more subtle. Not the neon green with a sunburst effect in OP's post. The image below is a factory degrade green dial.

[Onti]

Frankly, It's a nice watch but the idea of buying with the thought of it being an investment doesn't sound okay to me...