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Old 14 March 2022, 01:55 AM   #61
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I don’t believe that anyone is paying 40k for a hulk…..if they are I think the watch world needs to take a good long look at its self.

And how come nobody mentions the ‘horrible fat lugs’ like they do whenever the LN 116610 is discussed….very strange.

Fwiw ive always consider the hulk inferior to the real sub.
Another non hulk owner hating on the fact they haven’t got a hot watch
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Old 14 March 2022, 01:59 AM   #62
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Another non hulk owner hating on the fact they haven’t got a hot watch
And another speculator hating that REAL watch people don't think that the Hulk is all that special. Its fine if you're over paying for this piece but they sat in cases forever with dust on them for a reason. That is a fact and not speculation.
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Old 14 March 2022, 02:12 AM   #63
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how do you justify paying over 50,000 for any watch?
Good question….I was offered a rainbow Daytona yesterday for 51,000$……..I passed because we share the same thoughts……
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Old 14 March 2022, 02:38 AM   #64
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The hulk that’s only appeal was it’s discontinuation? If people can’t be honest that it was a very niche watch before the discontinuation rumors started I guess we can believe it is now the most desirable SS.

I guess the assumption is for these people no other watch will ever be discontinued?
I personally think the Hulk and BLNR are the modern OG hype watch. Yes the hulk started off slow, this was true for all models except Daytona. Which just means that Hulks probably have less production that most models with similar production span.

You don't have to like it, but the thread is simply talking about demand, and it's undeniably high having just overtaken the pepsi.
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Old 14 March 2022, 02:39 AM   #65
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very interesting

very interesting!!
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Old 14 March 2022, 02:44 AM   #66
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Its quite likely that Rolex will update all their subs to the new 41mm case. There are rumors the Hulk will come back this year.
Fake news and photoshop
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Old 14 March 2022, 03:13 AM   #67
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And another speculator hating that REAL watch people don't think that the Hulk is all that special. Its fine if you're over paying for this piece but they sat in cases forever with dust on them for a reason. That is a fact and not speculation.
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Old 14 March 2022, 04:21 AM   #68
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Old 14 March 2022, 04:26 AM   #69
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And another speculator hating that REAL watch people don't think that the Hulk is all that special. I
To me it's very special indeed. For what it is. Not for what the gougers think they can get for it.

I don't care if this makes me REAL or not. I just like watches and I particularly like the 116610LV. I wish it would tank. Then I can wear it without feeling self conscious and as a bonus, I'll get my hobby back.
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Old 14 March 2022, 04:29 AM   #70
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The Rolex market is currently at insane levels. I've recently added my two Rolex grails (the only models I really wanted if I never get another Rolex), but now am content and on the sidelines. I'm probably not adding another Rolex to my collection unless their is a major correction or I can easily source a new one at an AD. For now I am content to sit on the sidelines as spectator to this madness.
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Old 14 March 2022, 04:31 AM   #71
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I'm surprised you even feel safe wearing your Rolex in Shitcago, its rough out there brotha.
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Old 14 March 2022, 04:34 AM   #72
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To me it's very special indeed. For what it is. Not for what the gougers think they can get for it.

I don't care if this makes me REAL or not. I just like watches and I particularly like the 116610LV. I wish it would tank. Then I can wear it without feeling self conscious and as a bonus, I'll get my hobby back.
Thanks for this OP. I thought I was one of the few who thought this exact same thing. After I got it in 2017 I wore it nonstop; now it sits many days in the safe.

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Old 14 March 2022, 05:15 AM   #73
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To me it's very special indeed. For what it is. Not for what the gougers think they can get for it.

I don't care if this makes me REAL or not. I just like watches and I particularly like the 116610LV. I wish it would tank. Then I can wear it without feeling self conscious and as a bonus, I'll get my hobby back.

Agree. It’s special for what it is, but not some magical unicorn…it’s just a watch, but most I think would agree at least that it’s a unique one.
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Old 14 March 2022, 05:21 AM   #74
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I wanted one since 2017, wasn't able to make it happen until now. Feels pretty satisfying to make a dream come true.
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Old 14 March 2022, 05:44 AM   #75
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I personally think the Hulk and BLNR are the modern OG hype watch. Yes the hulk started off slow, this was true for all models except Daytona. Which just means that Hulks probably have less production that most models with similar production span.

You don't have to like it, but the thread is simply talking about demand, and it's undeniably high having just overtaken the pepsi.
I’m saying the fact it’s demand is only due to its discontinuation means it has a ceiling and no chance of overtaking the Daytona which has been the hype watch for years with difficulty sourcing. The blnr and Pepsi have been similar since their launch.

The fact in production Pepsis and Batman’s are roughly the same price as the hulk indicates it isn’t going to just double for some reason despite the investment crowds efforts.
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Old 14 March 2022, 05:52 AM   #76
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Thank God I find it hideous!
You’re right! It’s simply hideous to own a watch that’s tripled in value. I wonder how all of us that have them a t retail or discounted prices, live with ourselves???We must cringe every time we look at them!! Poor us!!
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Old 14 March 2022, 06:16 AM   #77
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Hulk catching up to Daytona

As I always say, I bought it for the dial but sold it because of the bezel. The dial is a sensational sunburst green, but the bezel is more of a milky green which I personally found a bit unappealing after the honeymoon phase was over - and also I think clashes with the dial.

It’s a very cool watch if you like the colours though, and pretty unique too which is always fun, but it’s not for me and I think it’s a real ‘Marmite’ watch. I think the Daytona has a lot more universal appeal.

It fit well into my rotation at the time though.

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Old 14 March 2022, 06:34 AM   #78
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Hulk inferior to the black sub….. now that’s hilarious lol
Exactly. The black steel sub SUCKS, is as common as dirt and is being pumped out every day; yet people still pay 20k for a new one.
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Old 14 March 2022, 06:43 AM   #79
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Dad is time to sell it and profit
Seriously, sell it and invest and he can buy 3 Rolex in the future.
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Old 14 March 2022, 06:45 AM   #80
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The hulk isn’t the one that confuses me. It’s the baby blue Tiffany wannabe Op that’s 30k.
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Old 14 March 2022, 08:02 AM   #81
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Exactly. The black steel sub SUCKS, is as common as dirt and is being pumped out every day; yet people still pay 20k for a new one.
As a Hulk owner.... I would rate the black sub above the hulk. But there is simply way more supply of black subs.
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Old 14 March 2022, 08:15 AM   #82
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I just saw one on David sw for 27 with box and papers. Not sure what you’re talking about OP


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Old 14 March 2022, 08:24 AM   #83
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I’m saying the fact it’s demand is only due to its discontinuation means it has a ceiling and no chance of overtaking the Daytona which has been the hype watch for years with difficulty sourcing. The blnr and Pepsi have been similar since their launch.
An out of production hyped watch, all be it produced in large quantities, is a fixed number that will never increase. This potentially creates more demand in the long term than another mass produced hype watch which is still being churned out.

Of course it's not that simple. We don't know how many high demand Daytona models are in circulation, how many enter the market per month/quarter/year, how much longer they will be manufactured for, or how many Hulks were sold. There is also a difference in demand level, although again, we can't put a number on it.

Taking all that into consideration, it does not appear logical to say an out of production, high demand model will never be as coveted as an in production, in demand model, even in the upside down world of Rolex. Time will tell.

For me, the Pepsi was an impossible model to obtain at MSRP for three years and a relatively easy one to get at MSRP in 2021.
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The one on David SW is a 2011 model. My post says "late model Hulks", which means like 2021-2018 production.

David has sold Hulks for $35,000 also.
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I'm surprised you even feel safe wearing your Rolex in Shitcago, its rough out there brotha.
I don't go into Shitcago. Politics destroyed the city. Its not safe for anyone down there.
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To me it's very special indeed. For what it is. Not for what the gougers think they can get for it.

I don't care if this makes me REAL or not. I just like watches and I particularly like the 116610LV. I wish it would tank. Then I can wear it without feeling self conscious and as a bonus, I'll get my hobby back.
My apologies. I know a lot of people do like it. I, like a lot of others just remember when they were easily had at a discount and nobody bought them. The flippers are destroying it for everyone.
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The one on David SW is a 2011 model. My post says "late model Hulks", which means like 2021-2018 production.

David has sold Hulks for $35,000 also.

Touché. But let’s be honest, there is no difference between a 116610 LVC from 2011 or 2021. The only difference is the date stamped on the card and the fact the newer one has some factory warranty. So if a person is stupid enough to pay the price differ for the same watch with a newer warranty card then that’s on them. As a owner of the 116610 LVC I personally think the aftermarket pricing is crazy. I picked mine up when they use to sit in the cases and an AD couldn’t move them


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To me it's very special indeed. For what it is. Not for what the gougers think they can get for it.

I don't care if this makes me REAL or not. I just like watches and I particularly like the 116610LV. I wish it would tank. Then I can wear it without feeling self conscious and as a bonus, I'll get my hobby back.
Bang on Harry,,,,
Be nice to appreciate our thing again by actually being able to wear our pieces whenever and wherever ,,,,
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Touché. But let’s be honest, there is no difference between a 116610 LVC from 2011 or 2021. The only difference is the date stamped on the card and the fact the newer one has some factory warranty. So if a person is stupid enough to pay the price differ for the same watch with a newer warranty card then that’s on them. As a owner of the 116610 LVC I personally think the aftermarket pricing is crazy. I picked mine up when they use to sit in the cases and an AD couldn’t move them


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2018 and newer have a different font on the dial…..some say the later models are also a little darker….
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An out of production hyped watch, all be it produced in large quantities, is a fixed number that will never increase. This potentially creates more demand in the long term than another mass produced hype watch which is still being churned out.

Of course it's not that simple. We don't know how many high demand Daytona models are in circulation, how many enter the market per month/quarter/year, how much longer they will be manufactured for, or how many Hulks were sold. There is also a difference in demand level, although again, we can't put a number on it.

Taking all that into consideration, it does not appear logical to say an out of production, high demand model will never be as coveted as an in production, in demand model, even in the upside down world of Rolex. Time will tell.

For me, the Pepsi was an impossible model to obtain at MSRP for three years and a relatively easy one to get at MSRP in 2021.
I don’t view anything as perpetual production, so the discontinued distinction will end eventually comparing 116500 as well. The market knows this and it’s priced in now and makes “overtaking” nearly impossible. I suspect the opposite happens when the current Daytona is ended. Somehow it’s demand will increase despite the new one likely having even more appeal/demand.
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