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SavGADawg · 17 June 2022, 01:57 AM

As many others have said recently, ADs are calling...

I'm on the "list" for a black sub at an AD. They know that my 2nd priority is a DJ41 steel / white gold with a blue dial. Just got the call for the DJ41. I turned it down. This would have been my first purchase from this AD. It hurt to say no, but I frankly couldn't swing both watches in a short time frame. My fear is that they would call back in two months with the sub and I'd have to turn that down. I'll need to get by there and buy my wife some jewelry or something soon! :)

Either way, just wanted to echo the sentiment that ADs are calling - even if you have no purchase history!

cheers

johnwigan · 17 June 2022, 02:48 AM

The sums are no longer adding up for the flippers. People are turning down watches. COVID is behind us - with all that entails. Prospects are looking up for the watch enthusiast. Filppers and Grey's, not so much.

samson66 · 17 June 2022, 03:06 AM

Was it the blue dial with fluted bezel that you asked for? If so I think you made a mistake. Never good to ask for a specific watch in a specific configuration and then turn it down when they get one for you. You may have just gone MIA from that Sub list.

HelloMelo · 17 June 2022, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samson66

Was it the blue dial with fluted bezel that you asked for? If so I think you made a mistake. Never good to ask for a specific watch in a specific configuration and then turn it down when they get one for you. You may have just gone MIA from that Sub list.

^agreed. I hope its not a specific allocation you asked for that you turned down. The AD will be hesitant to offer you a sub if you turned down your second choice.

Plai · 17 June 2022, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HelloMelo

^agreed. I hope its not a specific allocation you asked for that you turned down. The AD will be hesitant to offer you a sub if you turned down your second choice.

It won’t make a difference when we start seeing SS sport models in display cases again

Me4u2night · 17 June 2022, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samson66

Was it the blue dial with fluted bezel that you asked for? If so I think you made a mistake. Never good to ask for a specific watch in a specific configuration and then turn it down when they get one for you. You may have just gone MIA from that Sub list.

I agree here. You may not hear from them regarding that sub.

TimepieceRPP · 17 June 2022, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samson66

was it the blue dial with fluted bezel that you asked for? If so i think you made a mistake. Never good to ask for a specific watch in a specific configuration and then turn it down when they get one for you. You may have just gone mia from that sub list.

+1

SavGADawg · 17 June 2022, 04:15 AM

Certainly something they concerns me as well.

However, I was very clear that I wanted a sub first. The SA even mentioned that as soon as she called. But it’s definitely a risk.

HelloMelo · 17 June 2022, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SavGADawg

Certainly something they concerns me as well.

However, I was very clear that I wanted a sub first. The SA even mentioned that as soon as she called. But it’s definitely a risk.

In her eyes, she did you a favor by getting you your second choice. Hard to think she'll do you a second favor by getting you a more desirable model.

I would have bought the DJ and wore it until you got the call for the sub. You can always swing the DJ.

Krash · 17 June 2022, 04:21 AM

I just got a call for a DJ41. I'm picking it up later today. Very excited. It's exact the DJ41 that I've been waiting for. I will post a thread with pictures later tonight.

TickTockChuck · 17 June 2022, 04:25 AM

That's nice your AD offered the DJ41, but if you graciously declined it I think you would ultimately get the Sub which you already indicated was your primary choice. I think the grey market will deflate with the stock market & bit coin stuff falling apart as the decade long low interest party comes to an end. So therefore more watches will be available through AD's rather than 3rd party flippers imho. Good luck with getting your Sub. Cheers!

Sandpit · 17 June 2022, 04:44 AM

I’ve seen a few things over the last few days (including friends) of people that were on lists for multiple watches and now they’re getting calls and having to say no.

Honestly, don’t give ADs your lists if you’re not willing to take the watches. It’s always a risk that they’ll turn up when you’re not ready.

SavGADawg · 17 June 2022, 04:45 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

I talked to the SA again. Hopefully will be editing this thread to "Incoming" in the near future!

johnwigan · 17 June 2022, 04:48 AM

Just ignore the advice to buy a watch you don't want. If you want a sub wait for a sub. Buying things you don't want is part of the craziness which hopefully will become a thing of the past. People just want to buy a watch they don't want to become amateur grey dealers, 'buy this because you want that. If you get that sell this'. It is madness.

Good luck SavGADawg. Post some photos when you get the watch you want.

Pattul · 17 June 2022, 04:49 AM

I’ll advise you to wait for the watch you want. It can take a long time but it is worth the wait.

JParm · 17 June 2022, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SavGADawg

It hurt to say no, but I frankly couldn't swing both watches in a short time frame. My fear is that they would call back in two months with the sub and I'd have to turn that down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwigan

Just ignore the advice to buy a watch you don't want. If you want a sub wait for a sub. Buying things you don't want is part of the craziness which hopefully will become a thing of the past. People just want to buy a watch they want to become amateur grey dealers, 'buy this because you want that. If you get that sell this'. It is madness.

Money matters - as it should. Don't let the market drive you into madness, and definitely wait for the one you TRULY want. I think it will come for you - it might not be two months, but it will be worth it to wait and not stretch your money / get pressured into buying things you don't have funds for just so you can get something else later.

SavGADawg · 17 June 2022, 05:03 AM

Well...

I spoke to the SA and offered to buy the DJ. It was high on my list, just not at the top. Unfortunately, I live 4 1/2 hours away and won't be able to get to their store until the last week of June. They don't phone orders (or take deposits). They know I live this far away, so it wasn't a surprise that I couldn't come right over to pick it up. I do travel to their area for work several times / month. In fact, I was within 30 minutes of their store yesterday! :)

Good news is that the SA was super gracious and said she would expect to have another one within 4-6 weeks. Hopefully this time it will coincide with my travel schedule!

multimedia · 17 June 2022, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwigan

The sums are no longer adding up for the flippers. People are turning down watches. COVID is behind us - with all that entails. Prospects are looking up for the watch enthusiast. Filppers and Grey's, not so much.

Hear hear.

To the OP; good choice. I would have done the same. As you mention, go over to the AD and buy something nice for your wife (which is always nice!) = show them you're still committed and that you're serious to do buy THE watch from them ones it arrives. It goes two ways. But at the end, it's worth the wait to get what you really really want. :)

Cheers,
Joe

temporarychicken · 17 June 2022, 05:16 AM

No disrespect but it looks like we are coming to the point where being offered a nice DJ41 isn't a particular privilege any more.

The black sub still is, since it remains valued over list.

Turbo Racer · 17 June 2022, 05:19 AM

As others have stated, I agree with buying only pieces you really want. Hope they call you soon!

SavGADawg · 17 June 2022, 05:25 AM

Hopefully this isn't a double post, my previous reply seems to have vanished.

The SA and I spoke. I live about 4 1/2 hours from the store but travel there for work multiple times / month. They know and understand this. I didn't realize (and they didn't tell me) that they won't do a credit card phone order or deposit and can't hold the watch long enough for my next trip in, about 10 days. Alas, this one is going to get away.

However, the SA was great (as she always has been) and told me that DJs have been arriving more regularly and she would likely be able to offer me another one in 6 weeks or less (assuming the current one doesn't last). Either way, we seem to be developing a solid rapport and I expect my quest to resolve it self sooner than later!

Laostuh · 17 June 2022, 08:34 AM

On the other hand, you just proved to the AD you're not a flipper by declining the DJ41. Sure maybe not as hot a seller as the other sports models but still fetching over MSRP for most DJ41s.

Harry-57 · 17 June 2022, 08:40 AM

As has been alluded to, if you were listed for the DJ and turned it down, you might have put a crimp in your Sub timings. Only time will tell.

People on lists pass at various times for various reasons. All your SA needed to do was ring the next number.

Seddyspaghetti · 17 June 2022, 01:01 PM

“It’s happening”

Cauhauna · 17 June 2022, 02:33 PM

got an unsolicited text from my Vegas AD yesterday offering a sea dweller
I passed

it's happening

Moondoggy · 17 June 2022, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seddyspaghetti

“It’s happening”

Naughty naughty.

Ironchip · 17 June 2022, 03:49 PM

I’m confused! If an AD asks what is your 2nd choice, and they offer you that model, why wouldn’t you take it? Doubt you will be that lucky to get a sub and DJ in the same year. You should have said yes to the DJ, cause you might not know when you will get the sub. If you are a collector, why wait, just take what you are offered and be lucky that they offered it to you.

Emery · 17 June 2022, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laostuh

On the other hand, you just proved to the AD you're not a flipper by declining the DJ41. Sure maybe not as hot a seller as the other sports models but still fetching over MSRP for most DJ41s.

In this climate, are you still able to flip a DJ for a profit?
I’ve seen prices come down a fair bit for DJs, and even then it’s not moving.

By declining a wish list watch when it’s no longer an insta-profit, that reads more like a flipper profile to me.

1665fan · 17 June 2022, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by temporarychicken

No disrespect but it looks like we are coming to the point where being offered a nice DJ41 isn't a particular privilege any more.

The black sub still is, since it remains valued over list.

It’s not….. it’s the entry level piece

Wahlberg · 17 June 2022, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMelo

In her eyes, she did you a favor by getting you your second choice. Hard to think she'll do you a second favor by getting you a more desirable model.

I would have bought the DJ and wore it until you got the call for the sub. You can always swing the DJ.

Sell the DJ at a 2000-3000 usd loss when he says he can't even afford both. So I doubt he would want to lose that amount.

17 June 2022, 01:57 AM	#1
SavGADawg "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: USA Posts: 76	DJ41 offered from AD As many others have said recently, ADs are calling... I'm on the "list" for a black sub at an AD. They know that my 2nd priority is a DJ41 steel / white gold with a blue dial. Just got the call for the DJ41. I turned it down. This would have been my first purchase from this AD. It hurt to say no, but I frankly couldn't swing both watches in a short time frame. My fear is that they would call back in two months with the sub and I'd have to turn that down. I'll need to get by there and buy my wife some jewelry or something soon! :) Either way, just wanted to echo the sentiment that ADs are calling - even if you have no purchase history! cheers

17 June 2022, 02:33 PM	#25
Cauhauna "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Cau Location: Peachtree City Watch: 116500 Posts: 766	got an unsolicited text from my Vegas AD yesterday offering a sea dweller I passed it's happening __________________ 116610LN \| 226570 Polar \| 326934 Blue \| 116500 White 2FA Enabled

17 June 2022, 02:48 AM	#2
johnwigan Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 377	The sums are no longer adding up for the flippers. People are turning down watches. COVID is behind us - with all that entails. Prospects are looking up for the watch enthusiast. Filppers and Grey's, not so much.

17 June 2022, 03:06 AM	#3
samson66 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Downy Ocean Hon Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 13,793	Was it the blue dial with fluted bezel that you asked for? If so I think you made a mistake. Never good to ask for a specific watch in a specific configuration and then turn it down when they get one for you. You may have just gone MIA from that Sub list.

17 June 2022, 04:15 AM	#8
SavGADawg "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: USA Posts: 76	Certainly something they concerns me as well. However, I was very clear that I wanted a sub first. The SA even mentioned that as soon as she called. But it’s definitely a risk.

17 June 2022, 04:21 AM	#10
Krash 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Florida Watch: Sub, DJ41, GMT Posts: 8,267	I just got a call for a DJ41. I'm picking it up later today. Very excited. It's exact the DJ41 that I've been waiting for. I will post a thread with pictures later tonight.

17 June 2022, 04:25 AM	#11
TickTockChuck "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Chuck Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 116610LV Posts: 2,270	That's nice your AD offered the DJ41, but if you graciously declined it I think you would ultimately get the Sub which you already indicated was your primary choice. I think the grey market will deflate with the stock market & bit coin stuff falling apart as the decade long low interest party comes to an end. So therefore more watches will be available through AD's rather than 3rd party flippers imho. Good luck with getting your Sub. Cheers!

17 June 2022, 04:44 AM	#12
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,808	I’ve seen a few things over the last few days (including friends) of people that were on lists for multiple watches and now they’re getting calls and having to say no. Honestly, don’t give ADs your lists if you’re not willing to take the watches. It’s always a risk that they’ll turn up when you’re not ready.

17 June 2022, 04:45 AM	#13
SavGADawg "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: USA Posts: 76	Thanks for the feedback. I talked to the SA again. Hopefully will be editing this thread to "Incoming" in the near future!

17 June 2022, 04:48 AM	#14
johnwigan Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 377	Just ignore the advice to buy a watch you don't want. If you want a sub wait for a sub. Buying things you don't want is part of the craziness which hopefully will become a thing of the past. People just want to buy a watch they don't want to become amateur grey dealers, 'buy this because you want that. If you get that sell this'. It is madness. Good luck SavGADawg. Post some photos when you get the watch you want.

17 June 2022, 04:49 AM	#15
Pattul Banned Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: USA Posts: 19	I’ll advise you to wait for the watch you want. It can take a long time but it is worth the wait.

17 June 2022, 05:03 AM	#17
SavGADawg "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: USA Posts: 76	Well... I spoke to the SA and offered to buy the DJ. It was high on my list, just not at the top. Unfortunately, I live 4 1/2 hours away and won't be able to get to their store until the last week of June. They don't phone orders (or take deposits). They know I live this far away, so it wasn't a surprise that I couldn't come right over to pick it up. I do travel to their area for work several times / month. In fact, I was within 30 minutes of their store yesterday! :) Good news is that the SA was super gracious and said she would expect to have another one within 4-6 weeks. Hopefully this time it will coincide with my travel schedule!

17 June 2022, 05:16 AM	#19
temporarychicken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: UK Posts: 206	No disrespect but it looks like we are coming to the point where being offered a nice DJ41 isn't a particular privilege any more. The black sub still is, since it remains valued over list.

17 June 2022, 05:19 AM	#20
Turbo Racer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: USA Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 1,027	As others have stated, I agree with buying only pieces you really want. Hope they call you soon!

17 June 2022, 05:25 AM	#21
SavGADawg "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: USA Posts: 76	Hopefully this isn't a double post, my previous reply seems to have vanished. The SA and I spoke. I live about 4 1/2 hours from the store but travel there for work multiple times / month. They know and understand this. I didn't realize (and they didn't tell me) that they won't do a credit card phone order or deposit and can't hold the watch long enough for my next trip in, about 10 days. Alas, this one is going to get away. However, the SA was great (as she always has been) and told me that DJs have been arriving more regularly and she would likely be able to offer me another one in 6 weeks or less (assuming the current one doesn't last). Either way, we seem to be developing a solid rapport and I expect my quest to resolve it self sooner than later!

17 June 2022, 08:34 AM	#22
Laostuh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 947	On the other hand, you just proved to the AD you're not a flipper by declining the DJ41. Sure maybe not as hot a seller as the other sports models but still fetching over MSRP for most DJ41s.

17 June 2022, 08:40 AM	#23
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,681	As has been alluded to, if you were listed for the DJ and turned it down, you might have put a crimp in your Sub timings. Only time will tell. People on lists pass at various times for various reasons. All your SA needed to do was ring the next number.

17 June 2022, 01:01 PM	#24
Seddyspaghetti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Uranus Watch: 116500LN Posts: 4,789	“It’s happening”

17 June 2022, 03:49 PM	#27
Ironchip "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: Sub Posts: 32	I’m confused! If an AD asks what is your 2nd choice, and they offer you that model, why wouldn’t you take it? Doubt you will be that lucky to get a sub and DJ in the same year. You should have said yes to the DJ, cause you might not know when you will get the sub. If you are a collector, why wait, just take what you are offered and be lucky that they offered it to you.

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