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Old 28 August 2022, 08:01 AM   #1
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Would you trade a PAM 104 for 2022 mint 3861 Moonwatch?

Love this PAM it is unique in my collection, but really like the Speedy! Also don’t see myself wearing the PAM on leather very often as I usually use the Pam rubber deployment strap. I would have to throw in 2300. My PAM was bought used with box and 2 yr warrant in mint condition.

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Old 28 August 2022, 08:53 AM   #2
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Two great watches.

I would love to add a 3861 Speedy Pro, but I’m not willing to flip my only PAM for it. I guess it depends on what is your attachent to the 104. The trade seems pretty fair, value-wise. Maybe a little in favor of the Omega owner.
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Old 28 August 2022, 09:02 AM   #3
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Two great watches.

I would love to add a 3861 Speedy Pro, but I’m not willing to flip my only PAM for it. I guess it depends on what is your attachent to the 104. The trade seems pretty fair, value-wise. Maybe a little in favor of the Omega owner.

It’s a good grey I deal with. He is def lowballing me a bit on the value of the PAM. I have a Tudor BB I would rather trade but he has no interest in it . Normally I would just add but I have added a few to many so I need to trade lol


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Old 28 August 2022, 09:33 AM   #4
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If I were to get an automatic Panerai, it might be this one. Love it. As good as the Omega is, I would wear the 104 way more.
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Old 28 August 2022, 02:46 PM   #5
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No way I would even consider it.
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Old 28 August 2022, 03:10 PM   #6
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I’m not going to do it. The Pam is unique and fits nice in my collection. I will sell a tudor and then purchase a Speedy!


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Old 28 August 2022, 03:39 PM   #7
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I’m not going to do it. The Pam is unique and fits nice in my collection. I will sell a tudor and then purchase a Speedy!


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This is the way to go
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Old 28 August 2022, 03:47 PM   #8
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Keep Pam !!!
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Old 28 August 2022, 05:49 PM   #9
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Old 28 August 2022, 07:48 PM   #10
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PAM all the way.
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Old 28 August 2022, 10:01 PM   #11
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Good decision. Let us know how you work it out.
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Old 28 August 2022, 10:04 PM   #12
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I’m not going to do it. The Pam is unique and fits nice in my collection. I will sell a tudor and then purchase a Speedy!


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Good decision Justin.

Good luck with this
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Old 28 August 2022, 10:47 PM   #13
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Good decision to move a Tudor in place of your PAM. The Speedy will be a great addition!
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Old 28 August 2022, 11:05 PM   #14
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I don't think you'll regret that decision
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Old 29 August 2022, 01:38 AM   #15
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I don’t think there ever was a wrong answer.
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Old 29 August 2022, 03:16 AM   #16
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I’m not going to do it. The Pam is unique and fits nice in my collection. I will sell a tudor and then purchase a Speedy!



Sell Tudor for Omega and keep PAM ..I am for that .

If in future you want to sell the 104 think about a 111 or 233 or 127 .
To me,those are three classics from the modern era heydays of Panerai .

Panerai is all about the correct references from the correct era .
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Old 29 August 2022, 03:26 AM   #17
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The Pam 104 is becoming a very sought after model the older it gets. It’s a lot of Panerai watch for the money and checks all the boxes (44mm, fully polished, wr300m).
This is especially so if it is a older model that has the quick release strap change button on the lugs. They have developed a cult following.
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I don’t think there ever was a wrong answer.
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Probably the best response to 99% of the posts in this forum asking advice buy / trade advice....

But Justin ... clearly you were trying to convince yourself to keep it because on some level you love it (or at least like it a lot) or you would've asked this question in the Omega sub section.. ... for the money Jose is offering (or any Grey buyer right now), I'd keep it if anything just so I can sell it when the economy recovers for an extra grand or maybe two??

The bigger question for you is how you're going to cope with the 242 Gram 126619LB one day, and the 128 Gram Omega on the next without wrist shock!
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Old 30 August 2022, 01:43 AM   #19
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Probably the best response to 99% of the posts in this forum asking advice buy / trade advice....

But Justin ... clearly you were trying to convince yourself to keep it because on some level you love it (or at least like it a lot) or you would've asked this question in the Omega sub section.. ... for the money Jose is offering (or any Grey buyer right now), I'd keep it if anything just so I can sell it when the economy recovers for an extra grand or maybe two??

The bigger question for you is how you're going to cope with the 242 Gram 126619LB one day, and the 128 Gram Omega on the next without wrist shock!

Haha every now and then the wrist needs a break from all that weight Sam!

I will def get a speedy at some point but not at the expense of the PAM


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Old 30 August 2022, 06:48 AM   #20
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Keep the PAM. Those old eta ones are awesome (I have a 112) and getting harder to find in good condition with boxes and papers as time passes.

You can pick up a speedmaster anytime - I would just save a bit more cash and add it to the collection...
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Old 31 August 2022, 10:58 AM   #21
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Haha every now and then the wrist needs a break from all that weight Sam!

I will def get a speedy at some point but not at the expense of the PAM


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I have worn the WG Sub two days in a row for 12 plus hours… lets just say the wrist does feel a bit of relief when I take it off :-)

May be nice to wear a lighter watch every now and then!


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Old 31 August 2022, 09:43 PM   #22
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Haha every now and then the wrist needs a break from all that weight Sam!

I will def get a speedy at some point but not at the expense of the PAM


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I own both, and I can tell you there is definitely a difference on the wrist from the PAM and the Speedy!! I have a couple Speedy's if you ever get the itch ;)
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