Concerns regarding the 3 dots on crown

[Pauln]

Originally Posted by tifosi

I don't think this watch was purchased at an AD. I think we are being tested to see if this watch can pass as authentic, personally.

My thought as well.

[Jim_GMT]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

What’s wrong with your bracelet screw?


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Those do not look right at all. Just checked by BLNR and they are flush, no gaps. This would indicate a fake.

[GolfJunkie]

Originally Posted by tifosi

Maybe it's an OLEX AD....hahaha

Kind of what I’m thinking…

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Jim_GMT

Those do not look right at all. Just checked by BLNR and they are flush, no gaps. This would indicate a fake.

To me that looks more like someone tried to screw it in way too tight. I don't see gaps around the edges, I see screws that are in too far. That would also possibly explain why the groove for the screwdriver looks very wide and the whole thing a little asymmetrical.

[ian.thomas]

Originally Posted by dannyp

That depends on whether that YG crown is on a solid gold watch or TT. For TT twin lock, there’s a line.

My new TT RG DJ41 has two dots.

[logo]

Originally Posted by ian.thomas

My new TT RG DJ41 has two dots.

My TT YG DJ 41, manufactured in 2018 has 2 dots as well.

[doyall]

TT DJ36 (16203) just came back from RSC service. Crown replaced with gold two dot version.

[drrd]

Originally Posted by masterman

Thank you everyone for the input,

The watch was picked up from an AD overseas and I am currently in contact with them. Likely I will have to send it to RSC

‘The AD’ overseas. Nudge nudge ;)

[Rolex1982]

Hmm, all in all it doesn’t feel right. An AD overseas which sells you such a rare watch but with a wrong crown? Hallmarks are hard to see from the picture but they look not sharp enough. Also the screws and the edges of the bracelet look rounded a bit. This all could also be explained by the bad picture quality. And of course, they left all the stickers on? If i had any doubts like you have i would have already be at the AD.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by ian.thomas

My new TT RG DJ41 has two dots.

Originally Posted by logo

My TT YG DJ 41, manufactured in 2018 has 2 dots as well.

RG is different from YG in this regard, according to the chart I saw.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by dannyp

RG is different from YG in this regard, according to the chart I saw.

Won’t let me edit but wondering if it’s a 41mm thing? I think the chart predates the 41.

[Mr JJ]

Canon pinion looks off compared to the gen on the left

[Taipan]

Originally Posted by Mr JJ

Canon pinion looks off compared to the gen on the left

What's a canon pinion and what looks off about it?

[Mr JJ]

Originally Posted by Taipan

What's a canon pinion and what looks off about it?

The top of the pinion on OP watch is raised and rounded, like a bubble,
the top of the pinion on the gen looks more like a "Rivet"

Cannon Pinion
The cannon pinion is the heart of the motion works. This piece is what translates the movement of the wheels on the back into the time keeping display on the front. Most commonly (there are several exceptions) this is attached to the center wheel via friction fit and it is the post that the minute hand is set on.

[Bananass]

Looking real fake to me when you zoom in on it.

[ian.thomas]

This watch has too many red flags

[Dr Lecter]

About now, a trip to the AD is in order with list of questions. Interested to see how but turns out.

[Taipan]

Originally Posted by Mr JJ

The top of the pinion on OP watch is raised and rounded, like a bubble,
the top of the pinion on the gen looks more like a "Rivet"

Cannon Pinion
The cannon pinion is the heart of the motion works. This piece is what translates the movement of the wheels on the back into the time keeping display on the front. Most commonly (there are several exceptions) this is attached to the center wheel via friction fit and it is the post that the minute hand is set on.

Wow. Thanks. That really stands out now that you have pointed it out.

That's so bad that this no longer feels like an AD sale gone wrong, it feels more like a faker fishing for a critique. Very weird.

[Shrike]

Interesting read. I don't think I would have noticed any of that. This is why I don't buy outside of authorised dealers.

[KY..]

Originally Posted by Mr JJ

The top of the pinion on OP watch is raised and rounded, like a bubble,
the top of the pinion on the gen looks more like a "Rivet"

Cannon Pinion
The cannon pinion is the heart of the motion works. This piece is what translates the movement of the wheels on the back into the time keeping display on the front. Most commonly (there are several exceptions) this is attached to the center wheel via friction fit and it is the post that the minute hand is set on.

You gotta love this forum, such excellent detective work!

[Carguy87]

Originally Posted by KY..

You gotta love this forum, such excellent detective work!

Seriously! We have some very talented/sharp eyes on TRF!

[Mr JJ]

Originally Posted by KY..

You gotta love this forum, such excellent detective work!

I would love to see the movement... That pinion has all the hall marks of an Asian Clone 3285 Automatic GMT movt!

[diver2012]

Duplicate post.

[diver2012]

Originally Posted by Carguy87

Seriously! We have some very talented/sharp eyes on TRF!

Don't get too excited - because he appears to be wrong.

Here is another photo of a genuine one below.

I looked at 3 genuine ones online and all look like the OP's...not like the one MrJJ shared.

[Daytonaman799]

I would go back to the AD a lot of odd things going on for such an expensive piece. Where was it purchased?

[Rolex1982]

Originally Posted by diver2012

Don't get too excited - because he appears to be wrong.

Here is another photo of a genuine one below.

I looked at 3 genuine ones online and all look like the OP's...not like the one MrJJ shared.

I don't think we can draw any conclusions based on OP his pictures because they all have different angels and quality. I looked at mine and depending on the angle I look at it with my loupe I can see both images. Only thing is that the one of OP is so compressed and different lighting that it is almost impossible to compare and judge how it really looks. Only conclusion we all agree on is that there are definitely some possible red flags.

- Wrong crown
- Sloppy screw holes
- The AD overseas with such a high end piece and leaving all the stickers on suggest very good relationship but with doubts post it on a forum where you have no decent history.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Rolex1982

I don't think we can draw any conclusions based on OP his pictures because they all have different angels and quality. I looked at mine and depending on the angle I look at it with my loupe I can see both images. Only thing is that the one of OP is so compressed and different lighting that it is almost impossible to compare and judge how it really looks. Only conclusion we all agree on is that there are definitely some possible red flags.

- Wrong crown
- Sloppy screw holes
- The AD overseas with such a high end piece and leaving all the stickers on suggest very good relationship but with doubts post it on a forum where you have no decent history.

I'd also add quality of dial print ink. Yours is dark and thick. His is pale and "single layer" for example.

[arcampado]

Originally Posted by tifosi

229g for anyone not wanting to click on the link.

Heavy or not....there are still a few things I don't like about this watch.

Out of curiosity, has anyone here that has an authentic WG GMT meteorite weighed it? Is it indeed 229g?

[tifosi]

Originally Posted by arcampado

Out of curiosity, has anyone here that has an authentic WG GMT meteorite weighed it? Is it indeed 229g?

Not a GMT, but my 126619 WG Sub weighs 230g with 1.5 links removed. So it's in the ballpark at least. I know GMT has a thinner caseback and a lot less clasp.

[diver2012]

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