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Old 5 May 2023, 11:56 PM   #1
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couple of watches

just come up for sale.. thoughts??
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Old 5 May 2023, 11:58 PM   #2
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and this..
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Old 6 May 2023, 12:04 AM   #3
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the 'explorer' bit has me perplexed..?
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Old 6 May 2023, 12:18 AM   #4
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Old 6 May 2023, 08:30 AM   #5
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Old 6 May 2023, 03:54 PM   #6
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Honestly, these pictures are horrible and i wouldn't make a determination on either based on them. There are a couple of things that look fishy- but seriously, you can't expect anyone to weigh in with these terrible photos.
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Old 6 May 2023, 04:58 PM   #7
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What else is there to say? Both these pieces are completely fake. zero chance of them being authentic.
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Old 6 May 2023, 06:06 PM   #8
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If you need to ask authenticity questions on these then I don’t know where to start!
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Old 6 May 2023, 08:44 PM   #9
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What are you looking for? Pics are bad, you're obviously not buying the seller... you've already been told as such, so what more feedback do you need?
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Old 6 May 2023, 10:25 PM   #10
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Those are both awful fakes. Period.
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Old 7 May 2023, 01:40 AM   #11
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Oooof those are nasty.

No dice.
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Old 7 May 2023, 01:47 AM   #12
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Old 7 May 2023, 04:27 AM   #13
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In all honesty both deserve this for many reasons
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Old 7 May 2023, 04:46 AM   #14
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Is this a serious post?

These are some of the shittest fakes iv ever seen. Assuming by your location these were bought from a “looky looky” man at the beach and listed for sale.

If you are having to ask this you definetly aren’t competent enough to be buying a watch in a private sale. Please, do yourself a favour and buy from a reputable dealer if you are in the market.
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Old 7 May 2023, 11:48 PM   #15
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Is this a serious post?

These are some of the shittest fakes iv ever seen. Assuming by your location these were bought from a “looky looky” man at the beach and listed for sale.

If you are having to ask this you definetly aren’t competent enough to be buying a watch in a private sale. Please, do yourself a favour and buy from a reputable dealer if you are in the market.
Ok fair enough and I fully agree I'm not competent hence why I'm here!!

I come here specifically to be educated. IE just saying "fake" doesn't educate me. Telling me what is wrong or why educates me..

If they are fakes fair enough neither are watches I'm particularly interested in but they were offered to me so with caution I posted here. I'm guessing this forum isn't a biggest dick competition and always considered it as helpful and friendly..

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The guy selling them insists he bought them from Preston UK. My radar pinged when he also offered a Speedmaster with a tourbillon!. But tbf he did say it was a fake!
He's also a very well known and respected business man so it's not some looky looky man or FBN type.. I don't know him but many of my (now ex as I retired at Christmas) customers knew and did business with him for years and never had a bad word to say about him.

He's also offered to meet at an approved Rolex dealer (or there is a local highly experienced watch repair guy from Germany who has vast experience of all the top makes.)

So he's highly confident of the authenticity but as suggested here he's in for a big surprise.

Anyhoo as I say I came here for proper information ..
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Old 8 May 2023, 12:33 AM   #16
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Meeting "a watch repair guy from Germany" is a natural continuation to this story.
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Old 8 May 2023, 03:06 AM   #17
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Meeting "a watch repair guy from Germany" is a natural continuation to this story.

No you're misunderstanding

the German watch repair guy has had a watch repair shop here in Los Cristianos for decades. Hes very well respected . He repaired my EXPII a few years ago. I have full faith in him .
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Old 8 May 2023, 03:55 AM   #18
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Old 8 May 2023, 04:20 AM   #19
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Ok fair enough and I fully agree I'm not competent hence why I'm here!!

I come here specifically to be educated. IE just saying "fake" doesn't educate me. Telling me what is wrong or why educates me..

If they are fakes fair enough neither are watches I'm particularly interested in but they were offered to me so with caution I posted here. I'm guessing this forum isn't a biggest dick competition and always considered it as helpful and friendly..

back on topic:

The guy selling them insists he bought them from Preston UK. My radar pinged when he also offered a Speedmaster with a tourbillon!. But tbf he did say it was a fake!
He's also a very well known and respected business man so it's not some looky looky man or FBN type.. I don't know him but many of my (now ex as I retired at Christmas) customers knew and did business with him for years and never had a bad word to say about him.

He's also offered to meet at an approved Rolex dealer (or there is a local highly experienced watch repair guy from Germany who has vast experience of all the top makes.)

So he's highly confident of the authenticity but as suggested here he's in for a big surprise.

Anyhoo as I say I came here for proper information ..
Why cant you educate yourself?
If you have eyes...then simply compare pics of genuine articles to the fake junk you posted here.
Why is this so hard?
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Old 8 May 2023, 05:17 AM   #20
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“Back on topic?”

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Ok fair enough and I fully agree I'm not competent hence why I'm here!!

I come here specifically to be educated. IE just saying "fake" doesn't educate me. Telling me what is wrong or why educates me..

If they are fakes fair enough neither are watches I'm particularly interested in but they were offered to me so with caution I posted here. I'm guessing this forum isn't a biggest dick competition and always considered it as helpful and friendly..

back on topic:

The guy selling them insists he bought them from Preston UK. My radar pinged when he also offered a Speedmaster with a tourbillon!. But tbf he did say it was a fake!
He's also a very well known and respected business man so it's not some looky looky man or FBN type.. I don't know him but many of my (now ex as I retired at Christmas) customers knew and did business with him for years and never had a bad word to say about him.

He's also offered to meet at an approved Rolex dealer (or there is a local highly experienced watch repair guy from Germany who has vast experience of all the top makes.)

So he's highly confident of the authenticity but as suggested here he's in for a big surprise.

Anyhoo as I say I came here for proper information ..
You are off topic with your postings of fakes. Which you know full well they are. Get on topic on one of the fake watch forums and stop bothering people here.
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Old 8 May 2023, 05:19 AM   #21
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Ok fair enough and I fully agree I'm not competent hence why I'm here!!

I come here specifically to be educated. IE just saying "fake" doesn't educate me. Telling me what is wrong or why educates me..
There are plenty of youtube videos and blog articles about how to spot a fake. Very educational stuff. Reason member's don't like posting the things that make it fake is because they believe they would be helping the fakers make better watches (I'm only assuming here).

But a quick youtube/google search would let you know those are horrible fakes.
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Old 8 May 2023, 07:37 AM   #22
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Old 8 May 2023, 08:18 AM   #23
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Just need clearer pictures. Could clear all this up.


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Old 8 May 2023, 10:59 AM   #24
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But a quick youtube/google search would let you know those are horrible fakes.
Agree - don’t even need better pictures.


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Old 8 May 2023, 04:39 PM   #25
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Why cant you educate yourself?
If you have eyes...then simply compare pics of genuine articles to the fake junk you posted here.
Why is this so hard?
^^ this ^^
you clearly have the internet, so I don't understand how you can't find one of the billion genuine Daytona or GMT pics via google and spend, what, 10 seconds playing spot the glaring difference?

The other parts of your story, business men and German experts, don't matter, they're rubbish fakes.
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Old 8 May 2023, 09:49 PM   #26
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Awful, those piece a fake. Clearly written all over it.


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