Worked at an AD in Cincinnati

[Littletommy]

Originally Posted by Devildog

OP

You sound very young and a little naive.

Nice people make for good friends. Rich people make for good customers.

Also, I can't be sure exactly how it works in your state, but if someone buys a watch in store, asks for the box to be shipped, and takes the watch with him and the store doesn't charge sales tax, I'm pretty sure that's actually a discount. Otherwise it would be the AD who's committing tax fraud by not declaring an in store/state sale.

Incidentally, Cincinnati sales tax has been 7.8% since 1 October 2020. So the $5,000 saved would equate to MRSP of just over $64,000. The 506 has been $75,000 plus since launch in 2013. So you're saying that the "client" got at least an $11,000 discount and paid no sales tax?

And as you've named the AD in question as Richter and Phillips, and you've just accused them of tax fraud, and they will know who you are (if you actually worked there at all) that's maybe not the smartest thing you've applied you college degree to doing.

There's an element of bitterness in naming the AD the way you did, which makes me think - did you really work there? Were you perhaps fired? or were you a disillusioned hopeful?

How much of your post (if any) is actually real?

Call me a cynic, but I doubt much of it. There's nothing you've stated that would require you to have actually worked there. No "insight"

Nothing you couldn't have collated from reading some of the wider discussions on this forum alone.

I rarely say this but I'm calling BS on this.

^^^This!

[GB-man]

You sound exactly like all the people who work at Rolex ADs so I believe you lol

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You sound exactly like all the people who work at Rolex ADs so I believe you lol

Hahahaha!

[MickCollins1916]

On the one hand, it sounds like your fun meter at that job was set on 0, and I am sure telling people “no” all day long has to be exhausting. If that was your experience, that sucks and sorry to hear it.

On the other, putting your former employer on blast in this manner based on anecdotes etc is not something I would have advised doing.

Still, the non-existence of an alleged “list” at your former employer is consistent with what friends at a number of ADs have described to me, anyways. No surprise to hear the process is not as democratic and accessible as some might like. The list is a myth.

[dhknola]

OMG, this is the BEST THING I have read about modern Rolex ever, OP, THANK YOU!

The last couple of lines really make an impactful point, thank you for sharing this and officially getting any kernel of thought out of my brain about getting a modern Rolex.

Beyond enlightening post and thank you again for shedding light on the situation.

[jb335]

And of course, we will never hear from OP again….

Post is likely fan fiction.


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[BlueMo]

Originally Posted by Devildog

OP

You sound very young and a little naive.

Nice people make for good friends. Rich people make for good customers.

Also, I can't be sure exactly how it works in your state, but if someone buys a watch in store, asks for the box to be shipped, and takes the watch with him and the store doesn't charge sales tax, I'm pretty sure that's actually a discount. Otherwise it would be the AD who's committing tax fraud by not declaring an in store/state sale.

Incidentally, Cincinnati sales tax has been 7.8% since 1 October 2020. So the $5,000 saved would equate to MRSP of just over $64,000. The 506 has been $75,000 plus since launch in 2013. So you're saying that the "client" got at least an $11,000 discount and paid no sales tax?

And as you've named the AD in question as Richter and Phillips, and you've just accused them of tax fraud, and they will know who you are (if you actually worked there at all) that's maybe not the smartest thing you've applied you college degree to doing.

There's an element of bitterness in naming the AD the way you did, which makes me think - did you really work there? Were you perhaps fired? or were you a disillusioned hopeful?

How much of your post (if any) is actually real?

Call me a cynic, but I doubt much of it. There's nothing you've stated that would require you to have actually worked there. No "insight"

Nothing you couldn't have collated from reading some of the wider discussions on this forum alone.

I rarely say this but I'm calling BS on this.

As much as good faith should be basically offered, I liked your argument, language and precise critique very much.
I will not be surprised if you , Sir, have a law work experience.

However, there is definite bitterness in the original post which I understand and forgive. Alas, it has become part of the Rolex “experience” for most of us nowadays.

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by dhknola

OMG, this is the BEST THING I have read about modern Rolex ever, OP, THANK YOU!

The last couple of lines really make an impactful point, thank you for sharing this and officially getting any kernel of thought out of my brain about getting a modern Rolex.

Beyond enlightening post and thank you again for shedding light on the situation.

Sometimes it's hard to tell if a post is sincere or dripping with sarcasm.

[buffetwarren]

Thank you for sharing but you didn’t say anything new. I think the personal attacks against OP are unwarranted.

[Old Geezer]

Written by an AI bot or an SA people might come on here and start a post about "terrible experience at AD"

[cjohns]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

Are you telling me that someone who is able to purchase a Platona drove 8 hours there and 8 hours back to save $5000? Seriously? Do they not have an airport Cincinnati?

Technically they don't,,, CVG is in Kentucky

[rmwill]

Because its a fake troll post, like so many on this forum.

Originally Posted by BillA

Why do so many flame the OP, that is his opinion and experience. You can accept it or reject it, but the anger here is off the chart.

[Gearjockey]

Originally Posted by TheHulk

Yes it was Johnny Bench who bought the SS Sub

Might have been Pete Rose after he got back from the track (or OTB Reds bet).

Smaller “executive” airport is in Cincinnati, OH side of river.

[zjd168]

LOL, chill out man

[East of Eden]

So buy pre-owned or grey market, next problem.

[doublevanose82]

Originally Posted by S’portEye

Feel better? Just kidding. Seriously though, doesn’t everybody already know this.

I'm sure some do but it's always nice to hear it straight from the horses mouth.

[2001jesper]

Finally someone said it. However no news, besides the auto-generated mails

If the “my AD said” threads are fine and interesting, then this should be celebrated

[Calatrava r]

Most people I know who work at ADs have been there for years and love it.

[fredos_rolex]

I smell troll post. It very stinky. Hard for average Joe to get new Rolex, film at 11.

[WilsdorfNDavis]

Originally Posted by JRell

I used to work in Cincinnati. It was a small radio station, WKRP. It was a nice gig, but the employees there were a bit crazy.

Did they ever figure out if turkeys could fly?

[WilsdorfNDavis]

[FlyinHawaiian]

Originally Posted by train-time

I have done a few transactions with R & P over the last few years and can completely relate to what the OP is saying. The word, hubris comes to mind tempered with a touch of arrogance in the air. My last (attempted) transaction was a run of the mill, non-Rolex piece that was sitting in the case. I could have bought on the online site. I had one simple request of the SA and eventually had to take it to one of the managers that I had dealt with before. She responded, no problem, let me straighten it out with the owner, it should be no problem. Well, the owner responded to me directly and..... boy, did he put me in my place. Something I wasn't used to at my age.

Needless to say, I didn't buy the watch and have unsubscribed to all their future sales emails going forward. And..... it's just Cincinnati.... come on...!

Can you expound on the "simple request" that prompted the owner to put you in your place?

[JRell]

Originally Posted by WilsdorfNDavis

Did they ever figure out if turkeys could fly?

Negative, but As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

[DJ2020]

Originally Posted by jb335

And of course, we will never hear from OP again….

Post is likely fan fiction.


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No, It has to be true. I read it on the internet!

Actually I have a close friend that works at a Rolex AD. Unfortunately OP's statement rings very close to what I have been told and see. But we all know that, Yet remain hopeful anyway.

[Oyster Lover]

Originally Posted by Not My Style

First, if you want a sports model, you better buy other things. My AD wouldn't sell a sports model to anyone without previous purchase, with few exceptions.

The thing is, what the OP is describing here may in fact be illegal activity.

The legal term for the conduct described (that is to say, making you buy "other things" in order to buy a Rolex) is a "Tying Arrangement". And that may be a violation of antitrust laws and a crime that is prosecutable by the Department of Justice.

The fact that this type of behavior by ADs is discussed openly here on this forum, and elsewhere, has nothing to do with whether or not it is a crime. A crime has certain elements to it which have to be met, and the enquiry into whether or not a crime had occurred can be complicated, but generally speaking, this type of behavior that the OP is describing, to me, merits further investigation if it is substantiated.

Now, this is a complicated area of the law, which changes all the time, but basically a Tying Arrangement is where a Seller has large market power in a region (which I think a Rolex AD typically does have) and then the AD Seller conditions the sale of one product (the Rolex desired) on the buyer's agreement to purchase a second product (like jewelry, which is the "tied" product), and if that happens, that may constitute an illegal tying arrangement.

Just Google these terms, and you can also read the FTC guidance below:

https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/...titrust%20laws.

If, say, there was a scenario, where a Rolex AD was stupid enough to tell a Customer that he had to buy other items at the shop before the AD would procure a desired watch, and that Customer got really peeved off at the AD, and that Customer had the financial means and patience to go after the AD, he could really hassle the AD bigly...

In a way, I do wish someone would go after an AD who abuses customers in this way, just to stop this stupid practice of ADs making Customers buy other things just to buy a watch in the regular course of business.

[amh]

The bot has learned from your responses, the next first post from a new user will be even more cunning

[rmwill]

Yet people here eat this garbage up.

Originally Posted by amh

The bot has learned from your responses, the next first post from a new user will be even more cunning

[SAAS]

How do you feel about Tudors?

[DJ2020]

Originally Posted by JRell

Negative, but As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

Yes Turkeys can absolutely fly. Domestic Turkeys will depend on the breed. They roost in trees in the wild.

[Deepseadog]

Originally Posted by rmwill

Yet people here eat this garbage up.

Better this than another "Incoming!!!" of an identical watch tens of thousands of people have.