Worked at an AD in Cincinnati

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by samson66

Exactly! I will not shed a single tear for any lost sales tax to those thieving corrupt scumbag politicians who are way more concerned with helping their friends and donors out than they are about taking care of roads, parks, law enforcement, etc. Sorry, but no remorse here when I avoid giving them still MORE of my hard earned money, which is never enough for them. There's nothing easier than spending other peoples money!

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[codecow]

How would anyone know how “the list” works unless they’re a store or regional manager?

I was at my AD a couple weeks ago to send in a jewelry repair and my SA had a Daytona panda in the coffin and she was writing it up for someone to pick up. Almost guarantee that since the manager was also in there if I wanted to buy it they would have sold it to me right out from under that person if they hadn’t already been called. If not they probably would have promised me the next one (which as long as someone else bigger than me doesn’t walk in, no problem). That’s now that store works based on me observing it for over 10 years.

[BroncoOne]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

Only sociopaths don’t care about what *anyone* thinks.

No, only sociopaths care what random faceless internet losers think.

[Auric Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by codecow

How would anyone know how “the list” works unless they’re a store or regional manager?

I was at my AD a couple weeks ago to send in a jewelry repair and my SA had a Daytona panda in the coffin and she was writing it up for someone to pick up. Almost guarantee that since the manager was also in there if I wanted to buy it they would have sold it to me right out from under that person if they hadn’t already been called. If not they probably would have promised me the next one (which as long as someone else bigger than me doesn’t walk in, no problem). That’s now that store works based on me observing it for over 10 years.

Your post contradicts itself.

How can you say with certainty that you would've been offered that 116500?

[Agamemnon]

Of what I earn per month, the state keeps me around 5,000 euros on average.
Do you think I don't pay enough for the services that the state "offers" to citizens?
I have enriched myself with the study, work, the will and the intelligence that my mother and father have passed on to me. Knowing that every day I have to accept a challenge, my next bet.
All the Rolexes I own I have earned them and I can look anyone in the face without shame.
If I have to pay, I pay or I have already paid.

[HogwldFLTR]

The OP's post just seems extremely bitter. I'm not sure what the basis of the bitterness is but I suspect it's envy.

[PB_nts!]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Of what I earn per month, the state keeps me around 5,000 euros on average.
Do you think I don't pay enough for the services that the state "offers" to citizens?
I have enriched myself with the study, work, the will and the intelligence that my mother and father have passed on to me. Knowing that every day I have to accept a challenge, my next bet.
All the Rolexes I own I have earned them and I can look anyone in the face without shame.
If I have to pay, I pay or I have already paid.

I read your post 3 times and don't know what message you want to convey.

[Olive Drab]

Originally Posted by PB_nts!

I read your post 3 times and don't know what message you want to convey.

Pretentious comments

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by PB_nts!

I read your post 3 times and don't know what message you want to convey.

Agreed

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by East of Eden

'Arrogance' would be the AD, right?

To be utterly frank.
I really don't know

All I know is that I read the opening post of the thread and it seemed plausible and reasonable from the OPs perspective and that it largely aligned with my observations over many years. I also know that the OP's post didn't cause me to feel angry, or give me cause to take offence or pass judgement one way or another.
I also originally never had any intention of posting in this thread because knowing this community, I thought it would end up being an unecessary pile on of some description.
I just thought people couldn't resist the tempation to throw muck of some kind at the OP for their own reasons instead of simply taking it on board and taking what they needed(if anything) from it and moving along graciously.

It would be interesting to have a Clinical psychologist's view on the OP's comment and how they perceived some of the responses, but I imagine anyone in that field couldn't be bothered with such insignificant samples to work with
That's all.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by MangoTree1

OP better dont work for Rolex AD, nor deserves to wear a Rolex! Very poor and frustrated person!

I imagine the OP is the process of re-evaluating their employment status and how it aligns with their values and it will work out eventually one way or another. Also the sun still comes up the next day.
So I get the frustrated bit
I don't know that there is any need to add a value judgement by labelling the OP as poor or being somehow diminished as we really don't know the OP as a person.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Me too. They don't make them like this anymore
https://youtu.be/BGFtV6-ALoQ

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It was a great show back in the day.
I wonder how it would fare in the ratings up against the "reality tv" offerings

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Why do you feel so offended or the need to write this? He worked there, he experienced it and he formed his opinion.

Precisely

[77T]

Disillusioned by financial “power” running the show (nothing new, the world is a tough place).

Frustrated by being overruled on who gets the next Rolex based on the grounds of quantitative financial status versus qualitative meritocratic selection.

Somewhat indignant - not arrogant per se - unless intellectually arrogant. Like when one erroneously evaluates their intellectual capacity to be higher than the watchmaker due to a diploma.

Egalitarian in disdain for an employer. I think naming the AD is a form of micro-aggression.

There isn’t any “news” in the OP’s post. The topic has been grist for years and the forum’s many discussions of AD hijinks.


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[Colorado_kid]

Both ADs I go to said they don’t ship watches. Maybe they used to?
Must be collected onsite and sales tax paid.


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[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Colorado_kid

Both ADs I go to said they don’t ship watches. Maybe they used to?
Must be collected onsite and sales tax paid.


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This is apparently a new Rolex policy. No shipping to anyone. Rolex really wants ADs to sell only within their market area and a good way to enforce it is to eliminate all shipping.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by BroncoOne

No, only sociopaths care what random faceless internet losers think.

How do you describe "random faceless internet losers"?

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by 77T

Disillusioned by financial “power” running the show (nothing new, the world is a tough place).

Frustrated by being overruled on who gets the next Rolex based on the grounds of quantitative financial status versus qualitative meritocratic selection.

Somewhat indignant - not arrogant per se - unless intellectually arrogant. Like when one erroneously evaluates their intellectual capacity to be higher than the watchmaker due to a diploma.

Egalitarian in disdain for an employer. I think naming the AD is a form of micro-aggression.

There isn’t any “news” in the OP’s post. The topic has been grist for years and the forum’s many discussions of AD hijinks.


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Agreed.
I also thought there was a clear element of micro aggression in there that would take more time and expertise to unpack than we probably have to devote to such things.
The OP is clearly human and subject to normal emotions just as we all are.
For all we know the OP may well be operating well within the normal spectrum and a relatively well balanced individual

[77T]

Yes, I didn’t mean to infer the OP wasn’t normal. It is normal to have those feelings and it’s better to talk it out than stress over it. If TRF served that purpose then I’m OK with that.


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[Dyim]

Originally Posted by Dirt

In my locality the list was always run as a first come first served scenario.
That seems so long ago now.
The world has changed so much
Fortunately I can get what ever I want as long as I am happy to wait. Having said that my relationship with the dealer is solid and as you note, it's the way of things in this modern era.

In my neck of the woods, I don’t think putting your name on a list for a hot watch guarantees you will get one without prior history. It is not first come first serve.

I understand this is very hard for the newcomers trying to get into the brand.
But if you are the AD, who will you pick?
An established customer that keeps coming back, don’t flip watches. Buy other stuff.
Or a walk-in that could be one and done, and could be a flipper? And you don’t know him at all?
Yes, the newbie could be a life long customer also. But as the AD, you don’t know that. Hence you need to spend and build your history. Or go grey.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Dyim

In my neck of the woods, I don’t think putting your name on a list for a hot watch guarantees you will get one without prior history. It is not first come first serve.

I understand this is very hard for the newcomers trying to get into the brand.
But if you are the AD, who will you pick?
An established customer that keeps coming back, don’t flip watches. Buy other stuff.
Or a walk-in that could be one and done, and could be a flipper? And you don’t know him at all?
Yes, the newbie could be a life long customer also. But as the AD, you don’t know that. Hence you need to spend and build your history. Or go grey.

Yes, taking a chance on a new customer in this day and age is a risky proposition if they turn out to be a flipper which I suspect is more common than we could ever know.
I know of a couple of Rolex dealers that got caught by trusting the wrong person one or two times too many.

Even going grey and establishing a RSC service/repair history over time will pay long term dividends where one can establish a relationship is a great way around the worst of it for the newcomer. I know people scoff at that scenario but it has been proven to work where they get to know a person is straight up.
Even better if more than one sales assistant genuinely like the person.
Having said all that, I believe there is absolutely no future in buying something that doesn't genuinely sing to the buyer. It's just a total waste.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by 77T

Yes, I didn’t mean to infer the OP wasn’t normal. It is normal to have those feelings and it’s better to talk it out than stress over it. If TRF served that purpose then I’m OK with that.


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The pile on thing concerns me a bit though and I try as best I can to refrain, but I do weaken.
We are all human.

[codecow]

Originally Posted by Auric Goldfinger

Your post contradicts itself.

How can you say with certainty that you would've been offered that 116500?

Because they have done it before for other pieces that they happened to have sitting there when I walked in.

[Tell44]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

This is apparently a new Rolex policy. No shipping to anyone. Rolex really wants ADs to sell only within their market area and a good way to enforce it is to eliminate all shipping.

That's fake news, I work with an out of state AD from where I live that ships to me.

[FlyinHawaiian]

Originally Posted by Tell44

That's fake news, I work with an out of state AD from where I live that ships to me.

Don't let Rolex find out!

[Oyster Lover]

Originally Posted by Wayrollie

End of the day, it depends on the store owner/Director that decides where that allocation goes. It can be instant, it could be a month, it could be towards the date of your milestone celebration, and strangely, it could be years. I would imagine for those waiting for years, they are consistently being outstoried by customers and outadvocated by the SAs.

What kind of crap life is that? I don't doubt that it's true, and I don't fault anyone for describing it, but it just sounds like a crummy way to go through life: getting hit in the face by a huge latex you-know-what every time you suck up to a 30-something sales associate (who can't get a real job) for them to "please-sir-may-I-have-another" sell you that $10,000 watch... I would never demean myself to that degree. Just seems like a ridiculous way to live, and ripens whatever love I had for the brand, to intense white-hot rage...

[arcampado]

Originally Posted by codecow

How would anyone know how “the list” works unless they’re a store or regional manager?

I was at my AD a couple weeks ago to send in a jewelry repair and my SA had a Daytona panda in the coffin and she was writing it up for someone to pick up. Almost guarantee that since the manager was also in there if I wanted to buy it they would have sold it to me right out from under that person if they hadn’t already been called. If not they probably would have promised me the next one (which as long as someone else bigger than me doesn’t walk in, no problem). That’s now that store works based on me observing it for over 10 years.

LOL

[TheVTCGuy]

I have been with my AD since 2008. I know the SAs very well and can tell you without a doubt, it is the manager that decides where (or to whom) the watches go.

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by Oyster Lover

What kind of crap life is that? I don't doubt that it's true, and I don't fault anyone for describing it, but it just sounds like a crummy way to go through life: getting hit in the face by a huge latex you-know-what every time you suck up to a 30-something sales associate (who can't get a real job) for them to "please-sir-may-I-have-another" sell you that $10,000 watch... I would never demean myself to that degree. Just seems like a ridiculous way to live, and ripens whatever love I had for the brand, to intense white-hot rage...

It’s pretty easy if you don’t think as salesmen as beneath you.
And experiencing “white hot rage” over not being able to get a luxury watch seems the crap way to go through life to me.

My self esteem is such that being nice to a mere salesperson has zero effect on my sense of self worth.

Look inward…

[Oyster Lover]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

It’s pretty easy if you don’t think as salesmen as beneath you.
And experiencing “white hot rage” over not being able to get a luxury watch seems the crap way to go through life to me.

My self esteem is such that being nice to a mere salesperson has zero effect on my sense of self worth.

Look inward…

I have respect for people who respect me. But the whole process of buying a watch these days is a process full of disrespect and degradation, in my opinion.

There's no respect for me if I'm required to put my name on waiting lists that go no where, if I'm never called back, if watches I'd like to buy go to others who suck face better than me, if I'm required to buy tons of other merchandise in what I think is borderline illegal "tying arrangements", etc.

My hot rage is not about not being to get the watch, it's about how I'm being treated.

Again, this is not about "being nice to a salesman"... You've got to be kidding if that's what you think, and you obviously haven't read this thread from top to bottom.