Rolex Daytona 116509 White Gold - Offered by AD

[Gnhm3]

Hi all,

Have known my AD for about a year and half. Have been waiting for a steel Daytona since then. Yesterday when visiting her, she offered me a white gold Daytona (silver dial). This is obviously not the one I want but am considering it for the sole reason of trying to get more desired pieces quicker (Sad that this is the current state of what you need to do)...

What do you guys think of this piece? I feel like Rolex is definitely slowing down overall with people cutting down their spending and now they are getting stuck with pieces like this.

Would love to know what everyone thinks.

[jb335]

It’s an amazing watch. I love it and would daily this for sure.

But only buy if it excites you.

It seems to still sell for about retail plus sales tax (maybe a bit more) so if you change your mind later you may lose some but won’t be a bath. Not like back in the day when you’d lose ~30% on a PM piece like this.




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[KMalone]

Buy it and flip/trade it and pocket the cash. You get what you want and also have 'spend' with the AD. Win-Win.

[Solo118]

I would jump on that opportunity.

[ap1]

Say yes at -10 along with a ss panda at same time

[jb335]

Originally Posted by ap1

Say yes at -10 along with a ss panda at same time

Lol. I know a closed mouth doesn’t get fed but that is not realistic.


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[ap1]

Originally Posted by jb335

Lol. I know a closed mouth doesn’t get fed but that is not realistic.


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These ADs need to understand the game has changed on them. Why do you think OP got offered this. Ask resellers here what they will pay for that model.
White gold going back to its place in the pecking order. I say that as a white gold lover.

[Rolex1982]

Buy it if you really want it, you will loose money on it if you want to flip it to build a ‘relationship’/purchase history. My AD told me that other Rolex purchases don’t count as history…..

[jb335]

Originally Posted by ap1

These ADs need to understand the game has changed on them. Why do you think OP got offered this. Ask resellers here what they will pay for that model.
White gold going back to its place in the pecking order. I say that as a white gold lover.

I understand your sentiment but what a reseller will offer is somewhat irrelevant. At least in my market (second biggest market in US) there will be buyers for this at an AD at full pop. Asking for one of the two is reasonable but not both (discount and SS version).

More power to you for swinging for the fences but I don’t think it’s realistic.


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[garyk]

Originally Posted by Gnhm3

Hi all,

Have known my AD for about a year and half. Have been waiting for a steel Daytona since then. Yesterday when visiting her, she offered me a white gold Daytona (silver dial). This is obviously not the one I want but am considering it for the sole reason of trying to get more desired pieces quicker (Sad that this is the current state of what you need to do)...

What do you guys think of this piece? I feel like Rolex is definitely slowing down overall with people cutting down their spending and now they are getting stuck with pieces like this.

Would love to know what everyone thinks.

I have no idea why this has become an investment. Buy it, wear it, enjoy it and forget about values. You will live a peaceful life if you do...

[puma1552]

Is WG considered to be below SS in the hierarchy historically?

I know right now everyone is nuts for an unobtanium SS Daytona, but is that because it's the better watch or just because it's unobtanium?

I know WG and SS each have pros and cons such that one may genuinely prefer one to the other so if you genuinely don't want WG, don't buy it. But if you only want the SS because of some perceived unobtanium and if the WG Daytona is and should be considered more special by virtue of it being constructed of a more valuable precious metal, then I'd be open to it.

Now if I wanted platinum and was offered WG, then I'd say no. But if I wanted SS and was offered WG, to me, I would consider it. But it all depends on your frame of reference on what is driving your initial want for SS, because WG is a precious metal and therefore should in theory be more desireable/higher end. Nothing wrong with getting a 'better' watch than what you wanted.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by garyk

I have no idea why this has become an investment. Buy it, wear it, enjoy it and forget about values. You will live a peaceful life if you do...

Said by a wise man with a great Daytona himself.


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[hellofromthebay]

Any Daytona on a bracelet is very special and hard to get.

[Gnhm3]

Originally Posted by puma1552

Is WG considered to be below SS in the hierarchy historically?

I know right now everyone is nuts for an unobtanium SS Daytona, but is that because it's the better watch or just because it's unobtanium?

I know WG and SS each have pros and cons such that one may genuinely prefer one to the other so if you genuinely don't want WG, don't buy it. But if you only want the SS because of some perceived unobtanium and if the WG Daytona is and should be considered more special by virtue of it being constructed of a more valuable precious metal, then I'd be open to it.

Now if I wanted platinum and was offered WG, then I'd say no. But if I wanted SS and was offered WG, to me, I would consider it. But it all depends on your frame of reference on what is driving your initial want for SS, because WG is a precious metal and therefore should in theory be more desireable/higher end. Nothing wrong with getting a 'better' watch than what you wanted.

Well I specifically love the white dial and black sundials on the SS. I also love the ceramic bezel. I also prefer the 116500LN compared to the new 126500LN.

So it comes down to I like the look of the SS more than the WG AND we are talking a significant price increase. Having white gold does sound appealing but I genuinely like the look of steel better. I do however like the unique factor of the gold but I don't know about almost 3 x the steel.

Again, I would be buying this for the purchase history. I have purchased 2 pieces so far (sub and date just) and would love the opportunity to purchase some pieces I really want - blue dial sky dweller, sprite GMT, olive Green Day date. I just feel like at this point you probably need to buy a piece like this to be considered for the other pieces even with purchasing slowing down.

[puma1552]

Originally Posted by Gnhm3

Well I specifically love the white dial and black sundials on the SS. I also love the ceramic bezel. I also prefer the 116500LN compared to the new 126500LN.

So it comes down to I like the look of the SS more than the WG AND we are talking a significant price increase. Having white gold does sound appealing but I genuinely like the look of steel better. I do however like the unique factor of the gold but I don't know about almost 3 x the steel.

Again, I would be buying this for the purchase history. I have purchased 2 pieces so far (sub and date just) and would love the opportunity to purchase some pieces I really want - blue dial sky dweller, sprite GMT, olive Green Day date. I just feel like at this point you probably need to buy a piece like this to be considered for the other pieces even with purchasing slowing down.

Completely understandable. In your case, I wouldn't buy it then; never spend big money on something you don't want just in the hopes of getting a chance to buy something you do want. Many anecdotes here of people spending money on things they didn't want and still never getting the call for the stuff they did want. There are also other anecdotes of people turning down nice pieces they didn't want only to be offered the pieces they did want shortly thereafter.

Indicators seem to be that the tide is finally turning (albeit slowly) and soon enough the cases will be full.

If you want SS, hold out for SS...let someone else who really wants the WG get that piece.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by garyk

I have no idea why this has become an investment. Buy it, wear it, enjoy it and forget about values. You will live a peaceful life if you do...

How dare you speak common sense.

[Ferdelious]

Not a bad piece to get stuck with. But if you don't want then pass.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Gnhm3

Yesterday when visiting her, she offered me a white gold Daytona (silver dial). This is obviously not the one I want but am considering it for the sole reason of trying to get more desired pieces quicker.....

Would love to know what everyone thinks.

I think that's bonkers. But I'm not you. Your money your choice.

[Llamathurst]

Great watch! Go for it.

[APhound]

Great watch. Would MUCH rather have this than stainless.


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[dannyp]

If you’re interested in a full-PM watch, there are few better looking than that. Steel dial and non-ceramic bezel are visual wins in my book.

[Gnhm3]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

I think that's bonkers. But I'm not you. Your money your choice.

Believe me, I think it's bonkers also

I just want to have a good relationship with my AD in a market (LA) where people have F you money and hard to leave an impression. I am embarrassed to type that but it is the truth. It would be nice to hit up the AD and be able to get a piece you genuinely want without waiting long. Is this the watch I have to purchase to get there? I really don't know. What a world we live in.

Just a watch enthusiast trying to get the pieces he loves. First world problems

[Benzsiam]

It's gorgeous timepiece but buy it only if you love it.

To me, PM timepieces are always better and classier than SS but you have to pay higher price.

[ArtNouveau]

Originally Posted by puma1552

Is WG considered to be below SS in the hierarchy historically?

I know right now everyone is nuts for an unobtanium SS Daytona, but is that because it's the better watch or just because it's unobtanium?

Yes. A few short years ago PM Daytonas languished in cases and/or an AD could source you one pretty quickly. The SS Daytona has been “hard to get” since the 16520 came out in the late 80’s.
Biggest factor? Cost of course, PM watches at 3 times the MSRP of their SS counterparts have always sold in fewer numbers. It’s only in the last five years or so that all Daytonas have ridden the hype wave.

I could never rationalize the cost of a new PM Rolex. I’ve spent many times more than the price of one on watches over the years but I got many more for the same dollar spend. So to the OP, I hope you really really want the WG Daytona if you end up buying it. If you don’t seems like buying an SS from a reseller would be a better deal for you.

[WatchGuy1966]

If you love it and can afford it, yes. If you think you might regret it, no.

[huncho]

you can have a steel daytona on your wrist tomorrow for like $15k less. that's literally another rolex. why spend 45k+ on a watch you don't want when you can get the one you do want + a second with the savings? absolute best case is after this purchase they let you get a steel daytona at some point in the future and you end up spending a combined 60k+ lol. i get the whole purchase history thing and it makes sense if you want a PM piece but there's no winning scenario in this one if you don't want this watch

[Gnhm3]

Originally Posted by huncho

you can have a steel daytona on your wrist tomorrow for like $15k less. that's literally another rolex. why spend 45k+ for a watch you don't want when you can get the one you do want + a second with the savings? best case they let you get a steel daytona after so you end up spending a combined 60k+ on this + a steel one lol

Because I want the purchase history with the AD. I want a good relationship with them so I can get all my pieces from Rolex directly.

I hate buying watches from grey dealers. I just bought a blue dial skydweller after waiting a while and not hearing from any AD.

If I buy this and know the AD will hit me up for more pieces I like then I would purchase this. If not, I probably wouldn't. Problem is I have no way of actually knowing what will happen. It may be exactly the same after I purchase and that would suck big time lol

[Ny325]

Wait for what you want. I’ll pass n the WG Daytona. That’s not the one you intended to purchase.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Gnhm3

Because I want the purchase history with the AD. I want a good relationship with them so I can get all my pieces from Rolex directly.

I hate buying watches from grey dealers. I just bought a blue dial skydweller after waiting a while and not hearing from any AD.

If I buy this and know the AD will hit me up for more pieces I like then I would purchase this. If not, I probably wouldn't. Problem is I have no way of actually knowing what will happen. It may be exactly the same after I purchase and that would suck big time lol

yeah i get it but that's my point, you're gonna spend 45k on an uncertainty. it would 100% be worth it if, for example, you were in the market for a day date and got offered one, then at least you can tick off one box and possibly get more in demand pieces at the same time, but i would never do this with a watch i don't want. in this case you might not get offered something you do want and you'll be stuck with a watch you don't like and one you'd lose 10-15k on if you tried to sell. if you see yourself wearing it then it's a different story but my point is i wouldn't spend serious money on PM pieces i don't want just to possibly build a relationship

[Emery]

A WG Daytona is unlikely to be something you buy to pad up your profile, especially as someone relatively new to the AD.
In the current climate, any Daytona allocation will be seen as the AD doing you a solid, and rightly so - it’s a special watch.

It’ll probably signal your AD that you have the appetite and budget for PM pieces so they’ll likely send a few more of these your way to gauge your “loyalty to the brand”.

So take it only if you want it.