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7 August 2023, 11:32 AM | #1 |
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Rolex 3135 versus 3235
Just thought I'd ask and see what everyone's thoughts are comparing the predecessor of the 3235, the 3135 movement. Seems like the 3135's were a true workhorse of Rolex's lineup (as was the even-earlier 3035s).
Judging from the discussions regarding the 3235, it would seem the older movements seem in general to have better track records when it comes to reliability. Perhaps some of these issues re. low amplitude will be ironed out in the future, or perhaps not. If given the option today for a brand new Rolex w/ either movement, would you opt for the 3135 or the 3235? Would love to hear your thoughts and opinions. |
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Can of worms.
If I were you I would just do a search on this site. There are literally hundreds of posts and replies on this controversial subject.
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7 August 2023, 11:50 AM | #3 |
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Just a guess, but here’s how this thread plays out
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Personally, I’m in the 3135 camp currently
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I’m certain we can get this thread up to 400 responses
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Here you go OP while this thread fills up you can start with these 145 pages of light reading. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...highlight=3235 And when your done try this one for even more clarity. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=911282 |
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Plenty of resources already on this topic.
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7 August 2023, 01:21 PM | #11 |
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Nobody cares about Rolex movements, in the same time, everyone cares
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That being said, I've bought watches with 32xx movements because those same watches weren't available with the older 31xx movements, and I've had no regrets doing so even though I had to send one of those watches back to Rolex 3 times. That's because I knew what I was getting into beforehand, so I wasn't surprised or frustrated. The 32xx movement issues shouldn't be a dealbreaker if you like the watch. As you've seen here from others, many don't notice problems with their 32xx movements even after owning them for a number of years. I wouldn't overthink it. Life's too short! |
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7 August 2023, 02:31 PM | #13 |
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I'd take accuracy over longer run time any day of the week so 3135.
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My 32xx only ticks backwards within COSC specs. Rolex won’t do a thing about it.
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I have had good luck with 31 series movements, and not ready to try my luck with the 32 series yet. Beside, I find that ball bearing rotors tend to be louder or more noticeable, so there is data point to consider.
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Well even the bare uncased 32 movements are still tested to a AVERAGE -4+6 seconds at the Swiss COSC to get the chronometer certification.Then Rolex further tests movement in the case which is a good thing to this -2+2 spec and much like the COSC test at time of testing movement met said spec.But on the wrist wearing well thats another story because on the wrist there are many many variables.
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I have both.
The 4130 is the best. |
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That's about right. And spread over a minimum of 20 pages.
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I own one 3135 and two 3235s. The 3135 runs flawlessly, one 3235 is ok, the other 3235 has low amplitude (below 200º in all vertical positions after 24h) and shows poor time keeping (-6 s/d on average after a full wind).
If given the choice of movement for an otherwise similar looking watch, I'd go for the 3135. If the model I want only exists with the 3235, then I’d still get it but would manage my expectations accordingly (potential sub-par performance and shorter service intervals). |
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You haven't been paying attention at all have you I will refer you to the date of the introduction of the "Superlative Chronometer" standard which was heralded by a literal overnight swap of the Chronometer hangtag of a totally different colour at the dealers and boutiques. If you're feeling a little confused at this point, I probably need to inform you that I am(at this very moment) wearing a watch that has a rather accurate 3135 ticking away inside it that was manufactured many months after the introduction of the +2 to -2 Superlative Chronometer standard that is typically associated with the much heralded 32xx movements. The new standard also covered every other movement that was current at that point in time. I honestly think the forum will benefit from a lot less GASLIGHTING. Seriously, it's time to get your facts straight Paul To be clear, the "Superlative" 3135 inside the watch on my wrist, actually pre-dated the sub par 3235 which superseded it. |
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I will opt for a balance of accuracy and well proven reliability. Therefore it can only be a 3135 for me despite it's main inherent flaw, over a 3235 as things currently stand. Like many respondents there are a number of current watches that I would jump on in a heartbeat, but that movement lurking inside is the biggest turn off. 3135 rules |
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Please let us not forget. The "Superlative Chronometer" labelling had no substance in marketing terms and was effectively intangible until Rolex officially announced it as a feature of their watches along with the extended warranty and longer service intervals. I must reiterate that it was and is officially signified since the overnight introduction of the new colour "Chronometer" hangtag and global announcement by Rolex themselves. As you have correctly pointed out above, it's also exclusive to and wholly applicable to a movement that has previously passed COSC certification before being validated in-house as a "Superlative Chronometer" assembly with the movement cased up. Which is a crucial aspect that we all sometimes over look. The movement is COSC certified and the assembly is a Certified Chronometer As far as I can remember. Those are the facts and are indisputable. |
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A week ago as I was dining on vacation, I received a call from an AD for a 126610LN Sub-date. I politely declined. Once I believe Rolex has satisfactorily addressed the 32xx movement issues, I will be interested in acquiring a newer model again. Until then, It’s 31xx for me.
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I guess we can add the 32xx movement discussion to the topics that never seem to get put aside. The latest that is still going is case size, with an army of small case fans jumping on the band wagon at every new release or review of a model. I will say my selection has nothing to do with the movement and everything to do with look and fit from Rolex. The 31xx and the 32xx both work for me and it is about the watch. Accuracy that is only a few seconds off will not move me and the reported issues with the 32xx have not impacted me. So, buy what you like and will wear.
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