Did your watch come with stickers from trusted seller BNIB?

[Romeojk]

Should I be worried that the new watch was just delivered without stickers. I bought from a trusted seller and was told the stickers have been removed on all watches since 2017, in 99% of cases.

How have watches come to you from trusted sellers over the past six years?

It was delivered to my daughter and I’ll look closely at it tomorrow, but wondering about others.


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[travisb]

No worries. Most ADs remove all or most stickers the past few years. Before then it was nice to take it home and do it yourself. I’ve still had some stickered but that’s from an AD with a good relationship.


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[Alex71168]

ADs here in the UK have been removing stickers for years, except for the odd one they forget!

[Carguy87]

AD’s are supposed to take the stickers off, so any watch being resold “should” be stickerless. Obviously some stickered examples do get out into the market, but they aren’t supposed to.

[Gab27]

It's normal for an AD to remove the stickers when they sell the watch, much like how an automotive dealer removes the outer plastic wrap on a new car before delivering it to the customer.

I honestly would not be surprised if some of the watches sold with stickers are actually not the same stickers the watch originally came with from Rolex.

[Sothy]

ADs in Japan seem to remove all of the stickers as well (in my experience at least).

[Reconciler]

My AD removed all of the stickers on my last 2 purchases. The first time it happened I thought it was strange, but I guess it's just part of their process.

[joli160]

I bought my CHNR fully stickered from a grey seller. Just pay a bit more and you can get what and how you want it tomorrow

[Rico_Brasole]

Trusted or not it’s probably best to assume the watch is not “new”. A new watch comes directly from the AD to your wrist.

Trusted Sellers are getting desperate as sells are slowing. They’ll polish anything up and advertise it as new to get a sell.

Case in point- a forum favorite has a BLNR from 2019 listed as “unworn condition”. So you’re saying that this thing has been in the wild since 2019 and hasn’t collected a hairline scratch or a ding? Yeah right. The watch was polished to unworn condition and advertised as such bc the snake oil salesman know we prefer mint.

Don’t trust the greys when it comes to new watches. It’s only new if you buy directly from AD. Otherwise you’re paying over retail for a used watch.


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[1William]

Originally Posted by Rico_Brasole

Trusted or not it’s probably best to assume the watch is not “new”. A new watch comes directly from the AD to your wrist.

Trusted Sellers are getting desperate as sells are slowing. They’ll polish anything up and advertise it as new to get a sell.

Case in point- a forum favorite has a BLNR from 2019 listed as “unworn condition”. So you’re saying that this thing has been in the wild since 2019 and hasn’t collected a hairline scratch or a ding? Yeah right. The watch was polished to unworn condition and advertised as such bc the snake oil salesman know we prefer mint.

Don’t trust the greys when it comes to new watches. It’s only new if you buy directly from AD. Otherwise you’re paying over retail for a used watch.


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Strong response and not my experience with our big Trusted Sellers. If a watch is advertised as unworn, it is just that. The only thing the Trusted Sellers have is their reputation to sell watches. With over 100 deals with our Trusted Sellers over the years, I do not doubt them. Anything can happen but typically not. Stickers have been remove from AD's for a while and while you on occasion you will see a watch stickered it is not typical. You should not have an issue with your daughters watch. Just check it out.

[Rico_Brasole]

Originally Posted by 1William

Strong response and not my experience with our big Trusted Sellers. If a watch is advertised as unworn, it is just that. The only thing the Trusted Sellers have is their reputation to sell watches. With over 100 deals with our Trusted Sellers over the years, I do not doubt them. Anything can happen but typically not. Stickers have been remove from AD's for a while and while you on occasion you will see a watch stickered it is not typical. You should not have an issue with your daughters watch. Just check it out.

I’ve had tons of great experiences with grey dealers as well.

A quick polish job that probably costs the Grey dealer a fraction of what we pay for a polish job (bc they do more business) and this allows the grey to advertise as new and increase already slims margins. 100% happens. Best to just acknowledge it.

As the market continues to slip you’ll start to see different marketing tactics and sales verbiage to reel in buyers. “Unworn condition” on a 2019 just made me chuckle.

OP, it may be new or it may be polished slightly to look new. Either way, you’ll never know. I would just enjoy the watch. Only way to buy new is through AD.


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[Sglider]

Already slim margins?

Nearly every listing I look at for a unworn/new advertised grey market Rolex is near double of retail price.

Originally Posted by Rico_Brasole

I’ve had tons of great experiences with grey dealers as well.

A quick polish job that probably costs the Grey dealer a fraction of what we pay for a polish job (bc they do more business) and this allows the grey to advertise as new and increase already slims margins. 100% happens. Best to just acknowledge it.

As the market continues to slip you’ll start to see different marketing tactics and sales verbiage to reel in buyers. “Unworn condition” on a 2019 just made me chuckle.

OP, it may be new or it may be polished slightly to look new. Either way, you’ll never know. I would just enjoy the watch. Only way to buy new is through AD.


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[Rico_Brasole]

Originally Posted by Sglider

Already slim margins?

Nearly every listing I look at for a unworn/new advertised grey market Rolex is near double of retail price.

Typically their margins are 10%. However, I could be way off. Try selling a stickered Pepsi and see what they offer versus what they list at. Currently they are offering 4-5k lest than list. I think that’s just bc they are preparing for a market downturn though and what they have currently listed was purchased at inflated prices.

Check out bswanson. Guys been bumping 3 different Pepsis for about a month

Edit: when I say list I mean Grey prices, not msrp
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[Mystro]

AD’s remove stickers now out of policy. This started in the last 3 years.

[Sglider]

Originally Posted by Rico_Brasole

Typically their margins are 10%. However, I could be way off. Try selling a stickered Pepsi and see what they offer versus what they list at. Currently they are offering 4-5k lest than list. I think that’s just bc they are preparing for a market downturn though and what they have currently listed was purchased at inflated prices.

Check out bswanson. Guys been bumping 3 different Pepsis for about a month

Edit: when I say list I mean Grey prices, not msrp
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I cruised by the classified last night, the guys with the seven bumps, maybe they could try lowering the advertised price.

I am starting to get a little more comfortable with buying grey, somewhat, for a premium to end the quest,

but I don't think I have any intent in reaching out to someone for a negotiation on something that is $4-5000 over watch even Watch Charts is showing as reasonable.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Romeojk

Should I be worried that the new watch was just delivered without stickers. I bought from a trusted seller and was told the stickers have been removed on all watches since 2017, in 99% of cases.

How have watches come to you from trusted sellers over the past six years?

It was delivered to my daughter and I’ll look closely at it tomorrow, but wondering about others.


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Do you wear the sticky-back plastic or the watch if its the watch and watch is in good condition thats the main, and not bits of plastic that are fit only for the waste bin.

[Rico_Brasole]

Originally Posted by Sglider

I cruised by the classified last night, the guys with the seven bumps, maybe they could try lowering the advertised price.

I am starting to get a little more comfortable with buying grey, somewhat, for a premium to end the quest,

but I don't think I have any intent in reaching out to someone for a negotiation on something that is $4-5000 over watch even Watch Charts is showing as reasonable.

I hear ya. Imo best to just get on a list at an AD and enjoy life until you get the call


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[drrd]

Originally Posted by 1William

Strong response and not my experience with our big Trusted Sellers. If a watch is advertised as unworn, it is just that. The only thing the Trusted Sellers have is their reputation to sell watches. With over 100 deals with our Trusted Sellers over the years, I do not doubt them. Anything can happen but typically not. Stickers have been remove from AD's for a while and while you on occasion you will see a watch stickered it is not typical. You should not have an issue with your daughters watch. Just check it out.

It’s about “new” or not and if you buy grey then you’re the third owner minimum. That’s not new.

It may appear unworn but truly unworn (whatever that means) seems optimistic at best.

Not knocking grey, I just interpret new as like-new and unworn as appears unworn. Not so punchy I guess, that’s why I’m not in sales.

[Cowps]

I got mine from an AD fully stickered

[KatGirl]

It is my understanding that a grey dealer gets his brand new stock out the back door, of a disreputable AD, who should not be selling to him. In most cases, the stickers will have been removed. He then resells the watch to one of us. It remains brand new and unworn, until one of us purchases it. I, personally, consider that a brand new, unworn wrist watch, that has simply been passed through several hands. I have seen watches advertised as fully stickered, but that’s the exception, not the rule. Having recently purchased a watch, from an AD, I never saw the stickers. They had been removed, before the watch was presented to me, and before sizing. So, to say the only way to buy a “new” watch, is from an AD, is misleading.
OP, if you bought from one of our trusted sellers, and were told the watch is brand new/unworn, trust that it is! Congrats to your daughter!

Kat


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[Kevinbaz]

In the last 9 years in UK any a Rolex I purchased new from AD did not come with stickers.
Kev

[codecow]

Originally Posted by Rico_Brasole

Case in point- a forum favorite has a BLNR from 2019 listed as “unworn condition”. So you’re saying that this thing has been in the wild since 2019 and hasn’t collected a hairline scratch or a ding? Yeah right.

I have two Patek watches I bought, took home in the box, and then put them right in the bank vault. They’re older than that by a lot and both in unworn condition.

People who buy a lot of watches have a lot of watches and we don’t wear all of them.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Romeojk

Should I be worried that the new watch was just delivered without stickers. I bought from a trusted seller and was told the stickers have been removed on all watches since 2017, in 99% of cases.

. . .

Stickers don't authenticate a watch. Buying from a reseller and you will likely get the watch the way they got it, they don't usually put stickers back on.

[Divingdeep87]

My AD removes all the stickers except the one on the caseback and then he always forget the one with the red on it inside the clasp. lol

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by drrd

It’s about “new” or not and if you buy grey then you’re the third owner minimum. That’s not new.

It may appear unworn but truly unworn (whatever that means) seems optimistic at best.

Not knocking grey, I just interpret new as like-new and unworn as appears unworn. Not so punchy I guess, that’s why I’m not in sales.

The way you look at it, if I buy new, from AD, I am already the 3rd owner, since AD buys the watch from Rolex, then I buy it from him.

Kat


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[Cowps]

I bought mine firm an AD fully stickered

[Romeojk]

Thank you so much everyone for your help with confirming what was told to me.

My last purchase was six years ago from a trusted seller here and it did have the stickers.

[Romeojk]

Originally Posted by Alex71168

ADs here in the UK have been removing stickers for years, except for the odd one they forget!

Thanks Alex!

Originally Posted by Gab27

It's normal for an AD to remove the stickers when they sell the watch, much like how an automotive dealer removes the outer plastic wrap on a new car before delivering it to the customer.

I honestly would not be surprised if some of the watches sold with stickers are actually not the same stickers the watch originally came with from Rolex.

Thanks Gab!

Originally Posted by Reconciler

My AD removed all of the stickers on my last 2 purchases. The first time it happened I thought it was strange, but I guess it's just part of their process.

It threw me off a bit. Thanks Reconciler

Originally Posted by Sothy

ADs in Japan seem to remove all of the stickers as well (in my experience at least).

Thanks Sothy

Originally Posted by joli160

I bought my CHNR fully stickered from a grey seller. Just pay a bit more and you can get what and how you want it tomorrow

I didn’t think to ask for it. Thanks Joli!

Originally Posted by Carguy87

AD’s are supposed to take the stickers off, so any watch being resold “should” be stickerless. Obviously some stickered examples do get out into the market, but they aren’t supposed to.

Thanks Carguy!

Originally Posted by travisb

No worries. Most ADs remove all or most stickers the past few years. Before then it was nice to take it home and do it yourself. I’ve still had some stickered but that’s from an AD with a good relationship.

Thanks Travis!

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[Romeojk]

Originally Posted by Rico_Brasole

I’ve had tons of great experiences with grey dealers as well.

A quick polish job that probably costs the Grey dealer a fraction of what we pay for a polish job (bc they do more business) and this allows the grey to advertise as new and increase already slims margins. 100% happens. Best to just acknowledge it.

As the market continues to slip you’ll start to see different marketing tactics and sales verbiage to reel in buyers. “Unworn condition” on a 2019 just made me chuckle.

OP, it may be new or it may be polished slightly to look new. Either way, you’ll never know. I would just enjoy the watch. Only way to buy new is through AD.


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Thanks Rico for your perspective. I’ll keep it in my mind going forward. I do trust the seller and will look at it carefully but I expect it will all be good


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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

The way you look at it, if I buy new, from AD, I am already the 3rd owner, since AD buys the watch from Rolex, then I buy it from him.

Kat


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Not really, you are the first end user, you are the first buyer, non merchant, and I have been no unauthorized purchasers before you.



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