Horofix Springbar pliers or Bergeon 7825

[Smobews]

I have the Horofix pliers and they work great. One issue I have is when I set the width using the screw system when bracelet is on, the spring bar is longer when bracelet is off. It’s kind of a pain in the ass to readjust every time.

I just ordered the Horofix tweezers. I’ll give them a go.

[mmmmp]

I just purchased the Bergeon and it's a very helpful and finely crafted instrument. Admittedly, I've never used any other watchmaker tools but these work really well, feel comfortable, and don't look or feel cheap.

If you don't have the skills to change a lightbulb, you're not going to magically possess a watchmaker skills. However, if you practice on a doner watch and use care, a bracelet change won't be the mystery it once was. Plus, you'll save time (important!) and money (less important but always a factor worth considering)
There are some things that you should never skimp upon to save a couple of bucks.

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[antbkny]

Go with Bergeon

[fsprow]

Originally Posted by chadridv

not even close imo. The bergeon is superior and worth the extra money. I have both.

100%

[GoingPlaces]

I have the Bergeon, it's very well made. no issues.

[sambb]

does it work for tudor and rolex?

[Pilliam]

Just stumbled upon this thread because I’m researching this myself and have a quick question. I’m looking to simply move the bar contained within the clasp of my non-Rolex to another position. Need I buy this Bergeon or is their an easier way? Thank you in advance.

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by smym18

This one also seems to come with literally 6 replacement tips since they can be unscrewed and reversed, whereas the Bergeon only has the 2 it comes with and replacement is $80 for a pair. This one looks identical to the Bergeon one. If I had known this Horofix one existed I probably would have tried it first before I got the Bergeon.

It is a good copy, but Bergeon is superior. Seems to me the Bergeon tips are better hardened steel.

[214270Explorer]

Originally Posted by sambb

does it work for tudor and rolex?

Absolutely !!!!! And many other watches / spring bars too.

[TTalk]

Looked into spring bar tool options a bit ago...

Originally Posted by TTalk

...I don't have any answers as I have zero experience removing a band. But here's what I found looking specifically for Rolex solutions. People have commented that the Tudors might be a little tougher to remove.

Tools $135-$160 US



The Bergeron Tweezers seem to have the most support from TRF members. The tips may break, replacements are ~$80US.

Tools under $100US




The Horofix Tweezers have some support on TRF and on other watch forums. The tips may break, there is an included extra set and replacements are ~$25US.

I've seen less support for either set of pliers, but there are a few positive comments on those. I've found no specific comments suggesting the similar appearing units were made in the same factory. Some people still prefer a single straight tool, you can find those options at both URLs linked below.

Two sites mentioned that list some or all of the above products for sale are linked below, I'm sure there are others. Make sure you select the appropriate tips for your application(s):

https://www.esslinger.com/watch-band-tools/

http://www.ofrei.com/page252.html

You might also consider using protective tape ( here or here ) to minimize scratching the case when removing/reinstalling.

[502 to Right]

I own both the Bergeon and Horofix tweezers. While I'm a huge Bergeon fan I find the Horofix to be as good for a lot less money. I've had both for about 4 years and have not broken the tips of either one. I bought the Horofix first and then decided I wanted to go "premium" with the Bergeon since I change bracelets/straps a lot. But there's no difference. To me anyway.

Now as for a simple spring bar tool I wouldn't use anything other than the Bergeon 6767. Top notch tool for a reasonable amount of money (~$17).

[CarlOver]

The 6825 pliers allow you to pre set the squeeze adjustment length. This is helpful. I bought the Horofix version and needed the extra thin tips for the Rolex.

[Jason0626]

Anyone ever try the tools that they sale on Everest bands?

https://www.everestbands.com/collect...yster-bracelet

[jets]

7825 better for my prefs

[joli160]

The tweezer types are the easiest to work with.
I like the original Rolex tool 3200

[worldofoyster]

is there a different tool for the rolex oyster vs the jubilee bracelet?

[slide13]

Have the Horofix pliers....they're....okay. Wish I had the Bergeron, they look easier to use and the tips looks sturdier (broken a couple on my Horofix, they're very fragile). Bergeron are expensive though, seems way expensive for what they are....but I believe they're functionally the better option.

[omar-rye]

I like this one the best

https://www.esslinger.com/premium-sp...-removal-tool/

[DTNSS]

I got the 7825 yesterday. Works great.


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[Easy E]

Originally Posted by worldofoyster

is there a different tool for the rolex oyster vs the jubilee bracelet?

Nope, same tool(s)

[kopi-c]

I have the clamp style from Nam Hing, works pretty good and easy in & out.

[Airkingchnr]

I found it better to get a professional change the bracelet after gauging the back of a very expensive watch.

[2thdock]

Is there a consensus on tweezer vs single side at a time with a 6767? I have the plier and found the 6767 easier, but have not tried a tweezer style.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

I like this one the best

https://www.esslinger.com/premium-sp...-removal-tool/

Ditto, the above is the best, and yes i have all four or five of the others pictured above in the thread. Yes, sometimes a single (screwdriver type) works best, though overall the above link is what i use.

This is especially true when re-attaching spring bars.

jmho

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by Pilliam

Just stumbled upon this thread because I’m researching this myself and have a quick question. I’m looking to simply move the bar contained within the clasp of my non-Rolex to another position. Need I buy this Bergeon or is their an easier way? Thank you in advance.

I have the Bergeron tweezer tool, and it worked well to change the position of the bar in the clasp. If you are talking about moving the spring bar, to a different set of holes, you don’t need the Bergeron, just a cheap set of Watch tools, from Amazon. The correct tool for that is a pin pusher.

Kat


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[ItsThatKush]

I have the Horofix and it works well for me. I change bracelets from jubilee to oyster on my Batman / Batgirl combo.

[liuk3]

I've been happy with my Bergeron.