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Old 26 June 2024, 06:01 AM   #1
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Milguass coming back ??

I am down in AZ visiting family this week went to the Rolex AD in the Scottsdale Fashion square. The SA I was speaking with was very nice, I have to add that i've been in this store MANY times with zero interaction with the sales people. I am usually dressed pretty casual while on vacation so they pay me no mind. The guy told me that he just returned home from Switzerland for factory training. One of the questions they asked him directly was what did he think about the Milgauss. They didn't say for 100% it was coming back but the line of questions they asked about the previous reference made him think that they would be bringing it back. I hope they do I really like that reference especially the Z-Blue.
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Old 26 June 2024, 06:27 AM   #2
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Yeah its soounds like its coming back especially if a SA said so….. THEy KNOW NOTHING
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Old 26 June 2024, 06:32 AM   #3
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Will get back to you in approximately 10 months. Fingers crossed, hope it does make a comeback either in a new or vintage inspired iteration. The model has always been my favourite in the Rolex lineup
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Old 26 June 2024, 06:33 AM   #4
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It’ll be back in a more expensive and hard to get form.


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Old 26 June 2024, 06:41 AM   #5
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Maybe Rolex were trying to sell him a CPO?
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Old 26 June 2024, 07:04 AM   #6
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I wrote a story earlier this year about a new Rolex patent filing.

By changing the composition of the balance wheel, Rolex engineers were able to crank up the power to 4 tesla, or 40,000 gauss, before seeing any adverse effects on the timing of the watch.

That could be your new Milgauss ... which would blow the competition out of the water.

Full story: https://coron.et/new-long-reads/rolexs-tesla-challenge




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Old 26 June 2024, 07:09 AM   #7
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Interesting based off the patent info. It would be neat to see it comeback. I loved mine and just moved on from it. If I had unlimited space in the watch box it would definitely still be there. Always thought it was a fantastic looking watch.
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Old 26 June 2024, 08:32 AM   #8
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Will never happen but if the Milgauss wants to be a “scientist and engineers watch” then a date function and timing bezel would be needed.

Lab notes always start with the date. K, the timing bezel may not be that important but good to know how much time you have left on your lunch break!


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Old 26 June 2024, 02:05 PM   #9
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That SA made that story up.
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Old 26 June 2024, 04:22 PM   #10
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Will never happen but if the Milgauss wants to be a “scientist and engineers watch” then a date function and timing bezel would be needed.

Lab notes always start with the date. K, the timing bezel may not be that important but good to know how much time you have left on your lunch break!
I would never say never and the new patent application by Rolex is very interesting and where there's fuel there may be fire.

However, I do very much agree with you about the need for a date feature, except that feature would provide for an aperture for the magnetic field to enter the movement. But on the other hand, IWC has so called antimagnetic watches with date windows...
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Old 26 June 2024, 05:03 PM   #11
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I think it will get cycled back eventually, not necessary soon.

So…an AD sales associate at a place that previously disregarded you all of a sudden decides to give you confidential Rolex secrets? Definitely must be true. lol. Just kidding, the guy/girl was just making conversation or trying to make themselves sound important by having some insider information.

FWIW I would love a new milgauss. I loved the z blue from afar for years, bought it and loved it, its thickness/top heaviness was my only complaint but not a huge issue, and ultimately moved it towards something else. If it comes back as another z blue it may be the first watch I “re-acquire”.
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Old 26 June 2024, 06:52 PM   #12
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I wrote a story earlier this year about a new Rolex patent filing.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=935529
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Old 26 June 2024, 07:51 PM   #13
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I wrote a story earlier this year about a new Rolex patent filing.

By changing the composition of the balance wheel, Rolex engineers were able to crank up the power to 4 tesla, or 40,000 gauss, before seeing any adverse effects on the timing of the watch.

That could be your new Milgauss ... which would blow the competition out of the water.

Full story: https://coron.et/new-long-reads/rolexs-tesla-challenge






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This will be on all models. No need to reintroduce the Milgauss back as it was an unpopular model, and this new patent needs to be on all Rolex models, and not reserved for one model. Rolex needs to be on par or exceed Omega in this category.
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Old 26 June 2024, 07:57 PM   #14
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Very interesting read and to see what develops from this ..

** perhaps we can start the W and W 2025 thread early to accommodate this **

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Old 26 June 2024, 08:22 PM   #15
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I'd love to see it's return.
The patent info was very interesting and could make a strong argument for it.
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Old 26 June 2024, 08:42 PM   #16
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I wrote a story earlier this year about a new Rolex patent filing.

By changing the composition of the balance wheel, Rolex engineers were able to crank up the power to 4 tesla, or 40,000 gauss, before seeing any adverse effects on the timing of the watch.

That could be your new Milgauss ... which would blow the competition out of the water.

Full story: https://coron.et/new-long-reads/rolexs-tesla-challenge




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Cannot see any point as doubt if anyone would be in or near to anything that puts out that magnetic field.It's the same with the rating on some of the dive watches, max depth rating will never be used by man or superman in water they make them because they can.So more of a brag factor mine is bigger than yours and many buy that factor today.
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Old 26 June 2024, 08:58 PM   #17
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Yeh I would have to agree, that new balance spring would likely make it into all new references eventually rather than just in one specific reference. Why wouldn't you just put it in everything and have the superior technology throughout the range.

While I like the Milgauss (I've never owned one), I think it's lost its relevancy in the catalogue. There's no real advantage a scientist working at CERN would have wearing one these days compared to most other "high-grade" tool watches, and any reasoning to the contrary would be easily debunked.

I personally think it won't return, and if it did I would prefer to see it come back in a completely different guise, almost as a modern rendition of a 6541 with some additional tech features. I think this would be a much better application than a simple Air King with a different dial and an inner case. It would just be another watch nobody wanted.

Talking of Air Kings... don't even get me started on the most recent one...
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Old 26 June 2024, 10:07 PM   #18
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will never happen but if the milgauss wants to be a “scientist and engineers watch” then a date function and timing bezel would be needed.

Lab notes always start with the date. K, the timing bezel may not be that important but good to know how much time you have left on your lunch break!


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Old 27 June 2024, 12:18 AM   #19
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Doesn’t matter if there is a reissue or not.
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Old 27 June 2024, 12:21 AM   #20
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I don’t see it coming back. It was always unpopular. Personally, I never cared much for it, though some of its specs were interesting.

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Old 27 June 2024, 12:57 AM   #21
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It may come back with a silicon hairspring.


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Old 27 June 2024, 01:11 AM   #22
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I would like to see it come back, updated. It probably will come back, at some point; better odds than them releasing a new model.
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Old 27 June 2024, 08:10 AM   #23
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Rolex magnetic resistance

That article is quite the find.

According to the article, which is citing a Rolex patent, 'current Rolex watches' that have a Parachrom (CuBe) hairspring, can resist between 22,000 and 25,000 Gauss (2.2T to 2.5T). That is at least 22 times the resistance suggested by the name, Milgauss.

That's any Parachrom Rolex....not just the ref. 116400 Milgauss.

As for the Parachrom Milgauss (ref. 116400), there are technical reason to suspect that it's limits might be even higher when it comes to magnetic resistance. The hypothesis is that the shielding technology, and escapement alloys, used on the ref. 116400 Milgauss, might multiply the already extraordinary effectiveness of the Parachrom hairspring. But hey, unless you can safely access up to 10T fields or more, who knows?
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Old 27 June 2024, 08:14 AM   #24
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I am down in AZ visiting family this week went to the Rolex AD in the Scottsdale Fashion square. The SA I was speaking with was very nice, I have to add that i've been in this store MANY times with zero interaction with the sales people. I am usually dressed pretty casual while on vacation so they pay me no mind. The guy told me that he just returned home from Switzerland for factory training. One of the questions they asked him directly was what did he think about the Milgauss. They didn't say for 100% it was coming back but the line of questions they asked about the previous reference made him think that they would be bringing it back. I hope they do I really like that reference especially the Z-Blue.
The AD knows just as much as we do. Absolutely nothing.
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Old 27 June 2024, 08:41 AM   #25
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The AD knows just as much as we do. Absolutely nothing.
You're not wrong, he was honest with me in the fact that the person from his training was only asking what he thought about the piece, which is where he came to the conclusion that they must be bringing it back.
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Cannot see any point as doubt if anyone would be in or near to anything that puts out that magnetic field.It's the same with the rating on some of the dive watches, max depth rating will never be used by man or superman in water they make them because they can.So more of a brag factor mine is bigger than yours and many buy that factor today.
I respectfully disagree. I need to be cautious with automatic watches around my speakers (hifi speakers), guitar amps and some other powerful household magnets. 20k gauss+…
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A random guy at Rolex asks a random guy being trained and you conclude the Milgauss is returning?
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I respectfully disagree. I need to be cautious with automatic watches around my speakers (hifi speakers), guitar amps and some other powerful household magnets. 20k gauss+…
Hi,

I agree with Peter.

If you are working around 20K Gauss I don't think I would wear a mechanical watch.
20K+ Gauss is quite high.

On one of my on-line engineering calculators I set up a 90mm od x 30mm id x 30mm thick 50N magnetic ring and came up with this.
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My Milgauss GV is different from my other Rolex watches.

Looks just as good today.
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Old 27 June 2024, 11:01 AM   #30
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Sounds like a great visit to the Rolex AD in Scottsdale Fashion Square! It's interesting that the SA just returned from Switzerland and hinted that the Milgauss might be making a comeback. I really hope they bring it back too, especially the Z-Blue – it's such a cool reference. Enjoy your time in AZ!
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