[Poll] 116500LN (White) or 126500LN (White)

[LOVED]

Originally Posted by Devildog

"126500's huge case" If it is, then an 11 series Submariner must be gargantuan

For me too, the 11 series Submariner is huge. In terms of the Submariner, some may prefer the 16610 over the 116610 in terms of case size. It is natural that the size sense of a wristwatch differs from person to person.

[Redsub71]

The white dial of the new Daytona 12 is a bad copy of the old discontinued 11. The black dial of the new Daytona 12 has been improved. Enthusiasts, however, expected something more from the new Daytonas, something like the dial of Le Mans, which in its simplicity makes that Daytona a masterpiece. There was also disappointment on gold and platinum watches, in fact the market is supported by the demands of discontinued models, which are much more beautiful. Don't follow marketing, think with your head.

[thegrandseirolexguy]

116500LN. The new 126500LN dial looks somewhat anorexic to me.


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[milgauss2232]

The better one is the one you like!

[Redsub71]

Originally Posted by thegrandseirolexguy

116500LN. The new 126500LN dial looks somewhat anorexic to me.


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They can, they must modify them. We are all disappointed, even those who bought it.

[Neil McCauley]

Originally Posted by Redsub71

They can, they must modify them. We are all disappointed, even those who bought it.

What the hell are you talking about...

[karleone]

Originally Posted by Redsub71

The white dial of the new Daytona 12 is a bad copy of the old discontinued 11. The black dial of the new Daytona 12 has been improved. Enthusiasts, however, expected something more from the new Daytonas, something like the dial of Le Mans, which in its simplicity makes that Daytona a masterpiece. There was also disappointment on gold and platinum watches, in fact the market is supported by the demands of discontinued models, which are much more beautiful. Don't follow marketing, think with your head.

Just stop the non sense

[karleone]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

What the hell are you talking about...

Just ignore RedSub71 he is a troll

[sofar]

Originally Posted by Redsub71

The black dial of the new Daytona 12 has been improved.

For me, the 11 is best for both white and black dials.
The “steel ring” on the 12 is probably an improvement from a photographic point of view, but it causes me, a small minded person, to worry about scratches.
More to the point, the black dial of 11 looks much cooler in person than it does in pictures.
The fact that the real thing is better than the photo is probably because of its intrinsic beauty.
Of course, these are just my personal thoughts.

[Greg.A]

Originally Posted by karleone

Just ignore RedSub71 he is a troll

lol..just ignore all the noises, poll appears to show that 126500LN is leading. As TS mention, numbers don’t lie..

[Redsub71]

Originally Posted by sofar

For me, the 11 is best for both white and black dials.
The “steel ring” on the 12 is probably an improvement from a photographic point of view, but it causes me, a small minded person, to worry about scratches.
More to the point, the black dial of 11 looks much cooler in person than it does in pictures.
The fact that the real thing is better than the photo is probably because of its intrinsic beauty.
Of course, these are just my personal thoughts.

The new model has been revolutionized. I appreciated the ring, the shape of the case, even if it was bigger, however, I wrote it many times, the dials could have made them more beautiful. You will see that in the next restyling, they will change the dials.

[Redsub71]

Originally Posted by Greg.A

lol..just ignore all the noises, poll appears to show that 126500LN is leading. As TS mention, numbers don’t lie..

If only it were so. Everyone has understood that the new models have a big problem, the dials.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Redsub71

If only it were so. Everyone has understood that the new models have a big problem, the dials.

Dials are way better. Just your opinion. The fat rings look like reps to me now. There's my opinion. And nobody cares.

[karleone]

Originally Posted by Redsub71

If only it were so. Everyone has understood that the new models have a big problem, the dials.

You have a big problem. That’s it.

[Redsub71]

You get angry and become offensive because I write the truth. What did I say wrong? The new 12 white is a bad copy of the original 11, the new 12 black has been improved. Take a break if you think you've made the wrong choice. In the gray market, the white discontinued is preferred to the new, which every month goes down, falls and loses value.

[Neil McCauley]

Mods

This is clearly a vendetta towards Karleone - Redsub is providing nothing insightful, just conjecture, contrarianism and basically spouting lies to get a response. I'm all for free speech but this is ridiculous

[Redsub71]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

Mods

This is clearly a vendetta towards Karleone - Redsub is providing nothing insightful, just conjecture, contrarianism and basically spouting lies to get a response. I'm all for free speech but this is ridiculous

Vendetta? I don't understand what you're talking about, you need a break too

[Bazil]

Oh dear me .. all over a watch .. good lord, Aliens would never want to invade earth ..

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Redsub71

You get angry and become offensive because I write the truth. What did I say wrong? The new 12 white is a bad copy of the original 11, the new 12 black has been improved. Take a break if you think you've made the wrong choice. In the gray market, the white discontinued is preferred to the new, which every month goes down, falls and loses value.

Please provide data.

[illiguy]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Please provide data.

What is the comparison for NOS 11 versus new 12? Probably the best comp. The sheer supply of the 11 relative to the 12 probably creates a more skewed value retention comp.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by illiguy

What is the comparison for NOS 11 versus new 12? Probably the best comp. The sheer supply of the 11 relative to the 12 probably creates a more skewed value retention comp.

I would think NOS is rife with error with one being out of production. People can ask whatever they want for a stickered example so ask prices are meaningless.

I'm not seeing an 11 premium. Not even close. Happy to be wrong if anyone has better data.

[rockysw]

as someone said earlier, these are just watches. No need to fight or get upset about them. Different people like different watches and doesnt matter which watch is liked more (in this case the poll seems to be quite close). What matter is which one you like the best?

[928ktgold]

Originally Posted by Redsub71

You get angry and become offensive because I write the truth. What did I say wrong? The new 12 white is a bad copy of the original 11, the new 12 black has been improved. Take a break if you think you've made the wrong choice. In the gray market, the white discontinued is preferred to the new, which every month goes down, falls and loses value.

The truth? Are you serious? It’s your opinion. My opinion is I like the new dials better. These are all opinions. Don’t spew this nonsense about truth or facts

[nikolan]

new one definetely

[Redsub71]

I'm a very small watch seller, I don't want to advertise myself and I won't tell you where I sell. If we want to make comparisons, let's make them between watches in the same conditions. In the official sellers channels the new Panda never worn is offered to me at 23k , the old panda discontinued 2022/23 in the same condition at 25k. Give Yourself the Answer