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Old 7 November 2024, 12:02 AM   #61
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I just watched this video report on The Fall of Rolex or What Went Wrong. It is an interesting perspective and I really didn't see much there that would be hard to disagree with. What say you?
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You have 17k posts here yet find it "hard to disagree with" some Youtube clickbait vid on the Fall of Rolex? What say you?
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Old 7 November 2024, 06:05 AM   #62
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Old 7 November 2024, 06:43 AM   #63
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He calls John Harwood Swiss, the guy was famously British. YT experts strike again
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Old 7 November 2024, 07:14 AM   #64
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Rolex, down fall?, where is that happening at? ??? Maybe on the moon. Not here…
They sell everything they make and even that CPO program is selling well even though the prices are insane.

The King does not have any worries and anyone that says so, has no idea what they are talking about.

Just click bait video, there is allot of that on YouTube..There are some really stupid videos talking about this and that. All Negative..
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Old 7 November 2024, 09:05 AM   #65
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You have 17k posts here yet find it "hard to disagree with" some Youtube clickbait vid on the Fall of Rolex? What say you?
He said he didn’t see much there that he found "hard to disagree with" - or am I misinterpreting it?
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Old 7 November 2024, 05:43 PM   #66
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YT experts strike again
That sums it up neatly.
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Old 7 November 2024, 07:06 PM   #67
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Old 7 November 2024, 08:59 PM   #68
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I just watched this video report on The Fall of Rolex or What Went Wrong. It is an interesting perspective and I really didn't see much there that would be hard to disagree with. What say you?

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...5&action=click
I watched the video and some of the responses (mostly) did not disappoint

Objectively, despite the fanboy dismissal on the thread, I agree JP that most of what he says isn't wrong, and the rest of it is his subjective opinion, which some (most) on here may not agree with, but that doesn't make it wrong.

I have watches that are just as well made, do more, and cost significantly less than my Rolexes. Is a $30,000 handbag objectively better than a £3,000 handbag? Of course not.

I'd also say his comments about availability pre covid are not correct for the UK and most of Europe (about which I can comment)

What is apparent, however, is that whilst much of what he says isn't wrong, most of what he says objectively is irrelevant, and his subjective opinion is just that, his opinion.

The good news for anyone who buys a Rolex and thinks it sucks, is that unlike any of The Swatch Group products, they'll be able to move on their Rolex without taking much of a financial hit.

So even if Rolex watches do suck, no one actually cares
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Old 7 November 2024, 09:17 PM   #69
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I watched the video so you don't have to. Here is a summary of his points:
  1. Rolex is mass-produced and therefore nothing special.
  2. "Rolex" has awful customer service.
  3. Rolex design is boring and most models look the same.
  4. Rolex has no interesting complications, the Sky-Dweller doesn't count because it's ugly.
  5. Rolex has fake history, never been the first in anything (not the first automatic movement, not the first dive watch, not the first watch with date complication, not the first GMT, blah blah blah).
  6. Everyone has one.

In my humble opinion, his arguments are a mix of highly subjective and straw-man logic.
1) Rolex are mass produced
2) For many that is true. Cartier, for example, are much, much better.
3) They mostly share the same general case design (either rounded or squared off) and bracelets. A day date looks like a datejust. Yachtmasters, Subs, SD, DS and GMT Masters all look pretty much the same. Dial's aside, Air King's, OP's and Explorers look pretty much the same. Only Daytona's and Explorer IIs really stand alone (notwithstanding the same bracelet).
4) That's correct
5) Clearly not everyone has one but there are a lot in circulation (because of 1 above)


Most of that is objectively correct.

But as I said above its irrelevant because most consumers don't care.
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Old 7 November 2024, 10:31 PM   #70
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They became too popular, profitable and the best watch brand ever. That was their downfall. Lol
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Old 8 November 2024, 12:30 AM   #71
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Click bait trash seeking attention and seemingly getting it as the video does the publicity rounds on forums like this one. I didn’t even watch it since I don’t want to participate in the farse. No thanks.

Rolex has an enviable business and business mantra many would love to achieve.
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Old 8 November 2024, 12:48 AM   #72
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How is that restaurant?

No one goes there anymore!!!

Oh? why not.

Its way too crowded.
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The fall of Rolex is one shmoes winter of discontent lol….
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Old 8 November 2024, 01:07 AM   #74
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You have 17k posts here yet find it "hard to disagree with" some Youtube clickbait vid on the Fall of Rolex? What say you?
What do I think, let me get back with you.
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Old 8 November 2024, 02:23 AM   #75
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another youbube rant....btw im getting sick of YT also....

I hate Walmart too ......really hate them but I show dislike by just don't buy from them.....I'm sure its been over 10 years since I walked into one....no plans to ever go back but I'm not going to waste time on a video of why Walmart sucks......if you ever been in one you know.
Funny. I love Walmart. My wife does too. Maybe not as much as Costco, but it's a stop on our weekly shopping.

Rolex on the other hand has lost my business. Their strategy is great for AD's but bad for buyers. Pushing customers to the gray market to overspend on a watch, or promoting years long waiting lists doesn't work for me.
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