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Old 7 November 2009, 09:33 AM   #1
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1st post - datejust II

This is my first post here, so be nice, especially if i make a mistake.

Looking to purchase my first Rolex..

and i am pretty excited about it !

After looking at all the beautiful watches at the local AD.. AND my bank account, i feel pretty certain i've made up my mind.

i will be picking out the SS Datejust II with black dial.

As gorgeous as the white dial is, the black one added a certain sportiness on my wrist when encased in a 41mm bezel.

The local AD will sell it for $7100 after discount (unfortunately, i forgot the MSRP) i feel this is slightly high..

What is the best way to acquire this watch? i am not sure i want to go to all of the ADs to negotiate a deal one by one..

i am located in southern california near los angeles.

Can someone recommend a reputable AD? a price i should shoot for?

Also, why doesnt the black dial show up in the Rolex website ? They only show 4 models of Datejust II..

Thanks in advance for all the help !
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Old 7 November 2009, 09:42 AM   #2
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congrats on the choice.
Is it the black with White batons? It is a handsome looking piece. I liked it when trying it on.
Look forward to your wrist shots.
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Old 7 November 2009, 09:44 AM   #3
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Congrats and welcome to TRF.

That price is way too high. Check out our forum under the For Sales section. There's a brand new one going for much, much less.

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Old 7 November 2009, 09:47 AM   #4
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welcome to trf and congratulations on the dj2
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Old 7 November 2009, 09:48 AM   #5
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good price that - but it is a White dial not the black the op wanted. But I'm sure there is always the option of doing the dial change. ;-)
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Old 7 November 2009, 09:50 AM   #6
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Welcome to TRF crazycarlitos!!
Enjoy it here and jump in anytime..!
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Old 7 November 2009, 09:51 AM   #7
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an ss DJ II w/ white dial is going for $6400 on the for sale section and a blue/roman dial went for around $6000 last month. I'd contact one of the reputable dealers here and see what kind of deal you can get.
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Old 7 November 2009, 09:52 AM   #8
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good price that - but it is a White dial not the black the op wanted. But I'm sure there is always the option of doing the dial change. ;-)
Why do a dial change? I'm sure if the OP contacts the said seller, he will be able to source out a black dial for the OP.

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Old 7 November 2009, 09:55 AM   #9
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very true. But it all depends if a black dial can be sourced within op's time and $$$ requirement.
I also went for that route for my DJ2, but luckily the one I wanted came through from the AD.
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Old 7 November 2009, 09:57 AM   #10
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very true. But it all depends if a black dial can be sourced within op's time and $$$ requirement.
I also went for that route for my DJ2, but luckily the one I wanted came through from the AD.
I would wait. That asking price of $7100 is absolutely ridiculous. The SS/WG bezel model can be had for around $6500 easily......even less.

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Old 7 November 2009, 09:58 AM   #11
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little confused..

it doesnt come from Rolex with the black dial?

i've seen rayfaboloso (?), TRF member, post pics of his watch with the black dial / white markers.. i believe its the same one i tried on at the local AD.
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:00 AM   #12
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little confused..

it doesnt come from Rolex with the black dial?

i've seen rayfaboloso (?), TRF member, post pics of his watch with the black dial / white markers.. i believe its the same one i tried on at the local AD.
Yes, of couse, BLACK dial is available; but the guy on this forum has one for sale with the WHITE dial......and for a much, much lower price than the one that's been quoted to you.

Just contact that seller and see if he can source out a BLACK dial for you. His name is DAVIDSW and he's a great guy to deal with!!

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that's correct crazycarlitos. It is the same one. But sometime you may not be able to locate one within your preferred price range.

Favourite forum sellers are a great source too simply because they can offer amazing deals - as long as they have the ones you are after.
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:04 AM   #14
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that's correct crazycarlitos. It is the same one. But sometime you may not be able to locate one within your preferred price range.

Favourite forum sellers are a great source too simply because they can offer amazing deals - as long as they have the ones you are after.
i'd would love to give my business to one of the forum sellers.. but how do i know which ones to trust?
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:09 AM   #15
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i'd would love to give my business to one of the forum sellers.. but how do i know which ones to trust?
Just read my post again.......only 2 posts above. I've given you his name - DAVIDSW - he's a gem of a guy and I would trust him with my life.

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Old 7 November 2009, 10:10 AM   #16
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an ss DJ II w/ white dial is going for $6400 on the for sale section and a blue/roman dial went for around $6000 last month. I'd contact one of the reputable dealers here and see what kind of deal you can get.
who would these reputable dealers be?

i'd be happy to do business with one !
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:19 AM   #17
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Just read my post again.......only 2 posts above. I've given you his name - DAVIDSW - he's a gem of a guy and I would trust him with my life.

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thanks for the heads up..

and yes i looked at the white one he has for sale..

but i am not sure how the process of the changing dial works.. if it de-values the watch at all.. if they will any scratches from the change.. if i'd rather pay a little extra for one with black dial straight from Rolex..

i'll send davidsw a message anyways.
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:24 AM   #18
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thanks for the heads up..

and yes i looked at the white one he has for sale..

but i am not sure how the process of the changing dial works.. if it de-values the watch at all.. if they will any scratches from the change.. if i'd rather pay a little extra for one with black dial straight from Rolex..

i'll send davidsw a message anyways.
Why the hell are we even contemplating changing dials??? Who said anything about changing dials??? Why on God's good earth would you want to change the dial on a BRAND NEW watch?????

Just send DAVIDSW an email and ask him for a BLACK dial straight away. He will surely be able to source out an ORIGINAL BLACK dial one for you.

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Old 7 November 2009, 10:27 AM   #19
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Why the hell are we even contemplating changing dials??? Who said anything about changing dials??? Why on God's good earth would you want to change the dial on a BRAND NEW watch?????

Just send DAVIDSW an email and ask him for a BLACK dial straight away. He will surely be able to source out an ORIGINAL BLACK dial one for you.

Good luck - JJ
yeah, i misunderstood u the first time..

i already contacted him.. thx !
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:28 AM   #20
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yeah, i misunderstood u the first time..

i already contacted him.. thx !
Good work, buddy.......you will NOT regret it!!
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:34 AM   #21
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change of dial is apparently quite popular here in the uk. The reason I suggested this option is that if the op can buy the White dial at a very very good price when compared to his AD price, then he can contact the RSC and request a dial change to the one of his liking.

Like I have mentioned earlier, I was almost convienced of this option by about 3 uk ADs to purchase a TT DJ2 in a different dial and change to the slate dial I wanted initially at the RSC when the dial is available as a spare part in about 3 months time.

I'm sure most people is quite familiar with dial change options within the DJ and DD ranges.
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:42 AM   #22
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my local AD quoted me $6500 for DJII w/ black dial white marker..

im in search for my first rolex too.. getting married soon.

if you want i can give you AD name & #.. it's in Los Angeles.
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Old 7 November 2009, 10:47 AM   #23
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my local AD quoted me $6500 for DJII w/ black dial white marker..

im in search for my first rolex too.. getting married soon.

if you want i can give you AD name & #.. it's in Los Angeles.
great ! i'll send u a mesaage..

btw the $7100 i got quoted includes the tax - high in los angeles area..
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Old 7 November 2009, 11:15 AM   #24
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also, does anyone know how scratch proof the DJ II is? is it the sapphire crystal?

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yes i believe so, but my AD told me oyster bracelet is easier to be scratched then jubilee bracelet when i told her i am not really careful with my watches.
(hopefully that will change when i upgrade to rolex from gucci lol)
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also, does anyone know how scratch proof the DJ II is? is it the sapphire crystal?

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Rolex have been using Sapphire crystals on all their models since over 25 years.

The centre links on the bracelet are polished and would be prone to scratches; but they can be buffed out.

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MR JJ can you please advise on my thread?? (wedding)
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my local AD quoted me $6500 for DJII w/ black dial white marker..

im in search for my first rolex too.. getting married soon.

if you want i can give you AD name & #.. it's in Los Angeles.
That's a much better price for a brand new DJ-II!! You could also ask about tax free prices - even better.

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Rolex have been using Sapphire crystals on all their models since over 25 years.

The centre links on the bracelet are polished and would be prone to scratches; but they can be buffed out.

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Popped my Rolex cherry today ! =)

picked it up from a local AD.

Its a beauty ! I can't seem to take my eyes off it..

I will post some pics ASAP.

thx for all the help !
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