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Old 3 December 2009, 02:56 AM   #1
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GMT II Ceramic on Jubilee bracelet

For those that asked, a couple of pictures.
Jubilee bracelet is from a M series Datejust, the GMTIIC is a V series.
The bracelet goes on without any problem although you must use the Datejust springs bars. They are smaller in diameter to fit the Jubilee solid end links.
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:00 AM   #2
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Looks terrific......I approve!!
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:02 AM   #3
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Awesome.
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:03 AM   #4
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:18 AM   #5
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OMG - the torturing continues for me.

Still looking for a SS jubilee bracelet for my Gmt IIc too. If I can't find one sooooonnnnnnnn I will.........
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:19 AM   #6
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OMG - the torturing continues for me.

Still looking for a SS jubilee bracelet for my Gmt IIc too. If I can't find one sooooonnnnnnnn I will.........
We are both in the same boat, Matt!!!
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:19 AM   #7
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:19 AM   #8
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This will look great with a SUIT I tell ya!!!!! No more debate about it!!
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:20 AM   #9
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This will look great with a SUIT I tell ya!!!!! No more debate about it!!
Calm down, tosser......you'll bust a vessel!!
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:22 AM   #10
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We are both in the same boat, Matt!!!

I may have proof of life (bracelet)...found another AD in Anaheim Cali., that will look for a bracelet for me. Told him exactly what you told me, part no. 63200 I believe with all links. Lets see if he can cure Rolex Cancer for some of us...

If it works out for me, I will pass his infor to you. of course I will post pictures once I get it in my hands.
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:22 AM   #11
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WOW....how SWEET is that. way to go.
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Old 3 December 2009, 03:24 AM   #12
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that looks great. I'd like the jubilee myself. It is a classy
llook. Wish Rolex would have offered that as a choice.
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Old 3 December 2009, 04:30 AM   #13
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I'd love a Pepsi GMT IIc but I can't justify a third Rolex with an Oyster bracelet. I'd buy a vintage Pepsi with Jubilee but I don't want to deal with stretch.

So let's just hope Rolex makes the ultimate combo: a Pepsi on super jubilee. I'd buy it the first day it was available.
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Old 3 December 2009, 04:39 AM   #14
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I cannot say I like it, but we each have our preferences, and I'm happy you are pleased with it and it fit so easily!!

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Old 3 December 2009, 05:09 AM   #15
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Stunning, Mark. Gotta see that at our next GTG.
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Old 3 December 2009, 05:17 AM   #16
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I'd love a Pepsi GMT IIc but I can't justify a third Rolex with an Oyster bracelet. I'd buy a vintage Pepsi with Jubilee but I don't want to deal with stretch.

So let's just hope Rolex makes the ultimate combo: a Pepsi on super jubilee. I'd buy it the first day it was available.
You'd be able to get a Pepsi 16710 and buy a Super Jubilee for it - bit on the pricey side, but it looks stunning - a couple of our members have done this.
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You'd be able to get a Pepsi 16710 and buy a Super Jubilee for it - bit on the pricey side, but it looks stunning - a couple of our members have done this.
Chris, Mark and I have been there, done that.
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There we go again!!
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Old 3 December 2009, 05:25 AM   #19
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Chris, Mark and I have been there, done that.
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Cheers Dan, there's something about a Jubilee on a GMT, I have no idea why Rolex stopped offering it as a factory option
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Old 3 December 2009, 05:32 AM   #20
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What do folks think of the non-super Jubilee bracelet for GMT II Coke ??

I can actually get one of these bracelets new, but no bueno on the SUPER Jubilee.

Realize we are talking hollow end links and hollow center links, so the watch will feel light...

I don't mind the visible clasp...only on the underside of the wrist

Thoughts???
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Old 3 December 2009, 05:35 AM   #21
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What do folks think of the non-super Jubilee bracelet for GMT II Coke ??

I can actually get one of these bracelets new, but no bueno on the SUPER Jubilee.

Realize we are talking hollow end links and hollow center links, so the watch will feel light...

I don't mind the visible clasp...only on the underside of the wrist

Thoughts???
Well, Bill.......for all outward appearances, they look virtually identical except for the clasp bit.

If you don't have too much wear and tear on your watch, the older Jubilee should hold up nicely. You'd probably get it for less than half of what you'd pay for the Super Jubilee.

Just make sure you get the right non-SELs ends depending on whether your watch has lug holes or not.

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Old 3 December 2009, 05:43 AM   #22
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Thanks JJ.

My watch is a Mint D-Series so no Lug holes.

I would be buying the old-style Jubilee but NOS (New Old Stock). Yup. Pricing looks to be about $575 - $675 USD. Will need to look into it further.
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Thanks JJ.

My watch is a Mint D-Series so no Lug holes.

I would be buying the old-style Jubilee but NOS (New Old Stock). Yup. Pricing looks to be about $575 - $675 USD. Will need to look into it further.
If your GMT-II is WITHOUT lug-holes, then just make sure that the end links are numbered with the last letter ending in "T".

The "T" denotes that those end links are designed for a no lug-hole case. Just make sure you get the correct spring-bars with ridges on the ends so they can be taken off with a Bergeon 6111.

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Old 3 December 2009, 05:53 AM   #24
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Thx again...

So the Bergeon 6111 is the normal Rolex-freindly tool I need for taking off No Lug Hole bracelets?

Was debating getting those pricey tweezers with the skinnier points ( Bergeon 6825 PF Pliers with fine fork) , but might just get the 6111 tool.

Already have a different tool for Omega, but I think the points are too wide for safe use on Rolex
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Thx again...

So the Bergeon 6111 is the normal Rolex-freindly tool I need for taking off No Lug Hole bracelets?

Was debating getting those pricey tweezers with the skinnier points, but might just get the 6111 tool.

Already have one for Omega, but I think the points are too wide for safe use on Rolex
I have the original SWISS Bergeon 6111 - works perfectly on spring-bars for no lug-hole cases.

Make sure you get the SWISS version only - cheaper models are available, but they snap off like toothpicks when you apply the pressure needed to free the spring-bar from the lug-hole!!
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Thanks again JJ.

Just ordered the original Bergeon 6111.
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I have got a Jubilee on one of my GMT II watches and it is excellent. I bought the bracelet from Rolex earlier this year.
The only issue is not all of the 502T end links are a perfect fit straight out of the box. I had 3 pairs of endlinks before I had a pair that would fit straight on without any straining.
The chap at Rolex I spoke to in London said it was a known issue due to having to form the endlink from a straight piece of metal and bend it into a C shape. This was one of the reasons that the solid endlink had been introduced so they would be a perfect fit every time.
I thought about the stretch and decided to go with it as the Jubilee is half the price of a Super Jubilee. So if it wears out, (which I doubt) I can always buy another one!

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So the new Super Jubilee Bracelet is made not to stretch?
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So the new Super Jubilee Bracelet is made not to stretch?
Well, yes. Dan Pierce has had one for many years now on his older GMT-II and no stretch whatsoever.......thanks to the much better construction and ALL SOLID links!!

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Thx again...

So the Bergeon 6111 is the normal Rolex-freindly tool I need for taking off No Lug Hole bracelets?

Was debating getting those pricey tweezers with the skinnier points ( Bergeon 6825 PF Pliers with fine fork) , but might just get the 6111 tool.

Already have a different tool for Omega, but I think the points are too wide for safe use on Rolex
The Bergeon 6825PF is fine for taking off the GMT II Oyster bracelet but the forks are still too wide for the Jubilee 502T endlinks. You have to file the forks to make the points finer still. As the forks are double ended you can have one set normal and the other end filed for the narrow slot endlinks.
The SD no holes endlink needs the filed points but the Submariner no holes is fine with the standard fine forks.

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