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tyty · 31 March 2008, 01:36 PM

Hi everyone, first post here.

I have decided that I need a watch for diving/other watersports. I currently have a GMT-II but don't like to wear it in saltwater.

For some reason, I really like the look of orange-faced divers and am semi-set on one of those. I also like the rubber bands on them, but wouldn't be opposed to a steel band. I would like to keep it under $500 as it won't get worn very often and will likely get beat up when it does get worn (otherwise I would go for a Doxa).

I have found these two so far, but am definitely open to additional suggestions.

Tissot Men's Seastar Chronograph (Orange)

AND

Seiko Orange Monster skx781k3 200m Automatic Diver with Professional Rubber Strap

In reality, they are quite different considering the Tissot has a quartz movement and a chronograph, while the Seiko has an automatic movement.

They are similarly large at 45mm case diameter, which I like.

Water resistance for both is 200m, which much more than I would ever need.

The Tissot has a sapphire crystal vs the "hardlex" on the Seiko. Correct me if I am wrong, but sapphire is much more scratch resistant, but the hardlex is more impact resistant.

I am really just looking for a 2nd, 3rd or 4th opinion to help decide between these two and additional suggestions to consider.

mailman · 31 March 2008, 08:11 PM

Welcome to TRF

If it were me, I'd go with the Seiko. I have a Black Monster and love it. I bought it on a bracelet but just got an OEM rubber strap for it and like it too.

It's tough as nails and will take anything you throw at it. The winding crown at the 4 o'clock position is very comfortable

You won't have a problem with the crystal on it either.

Seiko is only one of I think three watch companies that manufauture all of the components of their watches, even the crystals. You can't find a better value for your money anywhere

They can be had for around $130-$180 BNIB on ebay

Jedi · 31 March 2008, 08:18 PM

Seiko all the way in my opinion.

I wear mine with a grey NATO strap and it's one tough mother.

The Tissot has chrono pushers which require screw down to be fully resistant to 200m and if you forget... buh-bye... plus in my opinion, does not have the hands down reputation of a Seiko OM for reliability.

DS/B MINI S · 1 April 2008, 02:07 AM

Another vote for the Seiko. I had a Black Monster for a few years until I gave it to a friend. You'll be hard pressed to find a better value in an automatic watch.

Scarface · 1 April 2008, 02:11 AM

Seiko

vukotab · 1 April 2008, 07:59 AM

Seiko,without a doubt!

stevemulholland3 · 1 April 2008, 12:10 PM

I wanted to be different and say tissot,but I cant---seiko!

tyty · 11 April 2008, 02:06 PM

I went with the Seiko and got it with the SS bracelet, but also ordered an OEM rubber strap. Thanks for the input. Now I just have to wait for it to get here...

erasuretim · 12 April 2008, 05:00 AM

I like the look of the Tissot and think they are an underrated brand. However if this watch is to be used in the vicinity of water i would go with the Seiko as those pushers are unlikely to be water tight.

Regards

Tim

gaopa · 12 April 2008, 05:41 AM

another Seiko vote.....

vegasvince · 12 April 2008, 10:23 AM

Go with the Seiko, you won't regret it!

etp095 · 12 April 2008, 11:05 AM

seiko blk monster with bracelet,bought rubber oem strap for it.i like it better with the divers strap.i also have a seiko bezel protector on it as well.

etp095 · 12 April 2008, 11:07 AM

factory seiko parts.

cmr · 12 April 2008, 03:22 PM

i have a seiko orange and a blue monster with the ss bracelets, i bought the rubber straps for them. can't be beat for the money and you can use the lume for a flash light it is so bright.

weiandy · 8 December 2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etp095

factory seiko parts.

Any idea where I can find the bezel protector?

WatchTimes · 8 December 2009, 11:49 PM

I own a Tissot (not the model you are considering though) T-Touch
and I will never buy another Tissot.

Watch broke and as it was a gift I did not have a receipt but had all papers
dated warranty in the book and all but they said it wasnt warranty work
(the touch feature went down after 5 mths) and they wanted a couple
hundred dollars to fix the watch (a new one wouldn't have been much more)
I luckily kept complaining up the chain of supervisors till someone just wrote
the charge off but it left such a sour taste in my mouth I don't ever wear the
watch anymore but can't sell it as it was the first watch my Fiancee bought me.

Oh yeah....
The bezel protector is very cool! First I have seen.

Also the Monster is a heck of a watch!

sunburst · 9 December 2009, 06:46 AM

I vote for Seiko Monster.

I have both Orange and Black.

They look great with bracelet, NATO or rubber.

datejust1 · 9 December 2009, 06:50 AM

Seiko all the way!

Mike B · 10 December 2009, 01:33 AM

Yes, the Seiko Orange monster is indeed a fantastic and very durable watch ! I have one, and in fact gave it to my father and now he loves it as well ! I'm thinking about getting the Black Monster for Christmas :)

1watchaholic · 10 December 2009, 03:30 AM

If Orange is the key feature, then I'd go with the Orange Monster. If you are not locked into color, I'd go with a Tissot Seastar 1000 automatic. Comes in Blue, Black and Silver, w/ETA 2824-2.

31 March 2008, 01:36 PM	#1
tyty "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 3	Tissot Orange Seastar or Seiko Orange Monster? Hi everyone, first post here. I have decided that I need a watch for diving/other watersports. I currently have a GMT-II but don't like to wear it in saltwater. For some reason, I really like the look of orange-faced divers and am semi-set on one of those. I also like the rubber bands on them, but wouldn't be opposed to a steel band. I would like to keep it under $500 as it won't get worn very often and will likely get beat up when it does get worn (otherwise I would go for a Doxa). I have found these two so far, but am definitely open to additional suggestions. Tissot Men's Seastar Chronograph (Orange) AND Seiko Orange Monster skx781k3 200m Automatic Diver with Professional Rubber Strap In reality, they are quite different considering the Tissot has a quartz movement and a chronograph, while the Seiko has an automatic movement. They are similarly large at 45mm case diameter, which I like. Water resistance for both is 200m, which much more than I would ever need. The Tissot has a sapphire crystal vs the "hardlex" on the Seiko. Correct me if I am wrong, but sapphire is much more scratch resistant, but the hardlex is more impact resistant. I am really just looking for a 2nd, 3rd or 4th opinion to help decide between these two and additional suggestions to consider.

31 March 2008, 08:11 PM	#2
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,510	Welcome to TRF If it were me, I'd go with the Seiko. I have a Black Monster and love it. I bought it on a bracelet but just got an OEM rubber strap for it and like it too. It's tough as nails and will take anything you throw at it. The winding crown at the 4 o'clock position is very comfortable You won't have a problem with the crystal on it either. Seiko is only one of I think three watch companies that manufauture all of the components of their watches, even the crystals. You can't find a better value for your money anywhere They can be had for around $130-$180 BNIB on ebay __________________ JJ

31 March 2008, 08:18 PM	#3
Jedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Lee Location: Malaysia Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,534	Seiko all the way in my opinion. I wear mine with a grey NATO strap and it's one tough mother. The Tissot has chrono pushers which require screw down to be fully resistant to 200m and if you forget... buh-bye... plus in my opinion, does not have the hands down reputation of a Seiko OM for reliability. __________________ Lee This is my watch. There are many like it but this one is mine... Flickr Blog

1 April 2008, 02:07 AM	#4
DS/B MINI S "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Charlotte NC Watch: SD & Exp II Posts: 961	Another vote for the Seiko. I had a Black Monster for a few years until I gave it to a friend. You'll be hard pressed to find a better value in an automatic watch. __________________ 16600 Sea-Dweller 16570 Explorer II (White Dial)

1 April 2008, 02:11 AM	#5
Scarface "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Minas Location: London UK Watch: Rolex , Omega Posts: 1,370	Seiko __________________ *Rolex* Oyster Perpetual GMT-Master ll *Rolex* Oyster Perpetual Datejust *Omega* Seamaster Professional Chronograph

1 April 2008, 07:59 AM	#6
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	Seiko,without a doubt! __________________ My fashion blog and Instagram: https://stylebyvukota.com/ https://instagram.com/vukotabrajovic/

1 April 2008, 12:10 PM	#7
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	I wanted to be different and say tissot,but I cant---seiko!

11 April 2008, 02:06 PM	#8
tyty "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 3	I went with the Seiko and got it with the SS bracelet, but also ordered an OEM rubber strap. Thanks for the input. Now I just have to wait for it to get here...

12 April 2008, 05:00 AM	#9
erasuretim "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: cranfield, uk Watch: 14060m Posts: 251	I like the look of the Tissot and think they are an underrated brand. However if this watch is to be used in the vicinity of water i would go with the Seiko as those pushers are unlikely to be water tight. Regards Tim

12 April 2008, 05:41 AM	#10
gaopa "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: .. Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 1,820	another Seiko vote.....

12 April 2008, 10:23 AM	#11
vegasvince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Vincent Location: Vegas, baby! Watch: one from ShopNBC! Posts: 436	Go with the Seiko, you won't regret it! __________________ SeaDweller "Z" Yachtmaster "Z" Oyster Perpetual "M"

12 April 2008, 11:05 AM	#12
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,026	seiko blk monster with bracelet,bought rubber oem strap for it.i like it better with the divers strap.i also have a seiko bezel protector on it as well. __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

12 April 2008, 11:07 AM	#13
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,026	factory seiko parts. Attached Images __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

12 April 2008, 03:22 PM	#14
cmr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: marcus Location: us, oklahoma Posts: 1,646	i have a seiko orange and a blue monster with the ss bracelets, i bought the rubber straps for them. can't be beat for the money and you can use the lume for a flash light it is so bright. __________________ cmr OA-Black dial SS Daytona, V-White dial SS Daytona, Z-GMT2C Wife, Z-Platinum Yacht Master, Black ceramic White dial SS Daytona,

8 December 2009, 11:49 PM	#16
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	I own a Tissot (not the model you are considering though) T-Touch and I will never buy another Tissot. Watch broke and as it was a gift I did not have a receipt but had all papers dated warranty in the book and all but they said it wasnt warranty work (the touch feature went down after 5 mths) and they wanted a couple hundred dollars to fix the watch (a new one wouldn't have been much more) I luckily kept complaining up the chain of supervisors till someone just wrote the charge off but it left such a sour taste in my mouth I don't ever wear the watch anymore but can't sell it as it was the first watch my Fiancee bought me. Oh yeah.... The bezel protector is very cool! First I have seen. Also the Monster is a heck of a watch! __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

9 December 2009, 06:46 AM	#17
sunburst "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Joji Location: KY, So. Cal., NJ Watch: 16800 Posts: 979	I vote for Seiko Monster. I have both Orange and Black. They look great with bracelet, NATO or rubber. Attached Images __________________ Rolex Sub 16800 Rolex No Date Sub 114060 Omega Speedmaster Professional Sinn 356 Flieger II, Sinn 556, Sinn ST-140 Marathon SAR, Marathon GSAR

9 December 2009, 06:50 AM	#18
datejust1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: G Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 6,042	Seiko all the way!

10 December 2009, 01:33 AM	#19
Mike B "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Gilbert, AZ Watch: DSSD, Omega SMP Posts: 3,055	Yes, the Seiko Orange monster is indeed a fantastic and very durable watch ! I have one, and in fact gave it to my father and now he loves it as well ! I'm thinking about getting the Black Monster for Christmas :)

10 December 2009, 03:30 AM	#20
1watchaholic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub Serti Posts: 557	If Orange is the key feature, then I'd go with the Orange Monster. If you are not locked into color, I'd go with a Tissot Seastar 1000 automatic. Comes in Blue, Black and Silver, w/ETA 2824-2.

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