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stusrt · 25 February 2010, 01:31 AM

Someone has for a sale a GMT-II that I am interested in, however - something doesn't add up.

He states it is an F-series, but when I checked out the website
http://gmtmasterhistory.com

they state:
Evolution:
1997/2000: Tritium -> Luminova -> Superluminova
2000: Solid end link bracelet indroduced (SEL).
2003: Laser crown introduced.
2003: No holes case starting (late Y-series).
2007: New certificate (plastic/credit card size) introduced (Z-series).
Late 2007: Caliber 3186 instead of 3185 (late Z-series and the M-series).

the pictures he sent me clearly has the luge holes. And I know F is 2004, after Y. The pictures do look legit.

Should I just stay away from this, or are there F-series GMT-II with the holes?

thanks in advance!

Puffy · 25 February 2010, 01:37 AM

PM sent.

kgglonghorn · 25 February 2010, 01:55 AM

could be an honest mistake, but there are lots of bad people out there...
F series definitely NO lug holes.
unless it is too good of a deal to pass up AND ou can pay in a manner that you can get your money back (CC, paypal with buyer protection, etc) I would look elsewhere. THere are too many good deals out there now to take any chances. Good luck.

swissautopro · 25 February 2010, 02:30 AM

If these pics are of the actual watch, a bunch of stuff doesn't add up. It should have SEL's, "Swiss Made" SL dial, a no-holes case. My vote ... pass.

stusrt · 25 February 2010, 02:45 AM

yeah - I didn't even think of the SEL - good call.

so either this guy has his serial numbers mixed up or it's a scam.

I asked for pics of the serial number on the watch, we'll see what response I get if any.

swissautopro · 25 February 2010, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stusrt

yeah - I didn't even think of the SEL - good call.

so either this guy has his serial numbers mixed up or it's a scam.

I asked for pics of the serial number on the watch, we'll see what response I get if any.

That should tell you everything you need to know. My gut is leading me to think the pics may not be of the actual watch - if there is a watch. I will keep up with the thread out of curiosity, but it is odd, to say the least. Good luck with it.

25 February 2010, 01:31 AM	#1
stusrt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Motor City Watch: too many Posts: 1,114	help with a Rolex GMT ??? Someone has for a sale a GMT-II that I am interested in, however - something doesn't add up. He states it is an F-series, but when I checked out the website http://gmtmasterhistory.com they state: Evolution: 1997/2000: Tritium -> Luminova -> Superluminova 2000: Solid end link bracelet indroduced (SEL). 2003: Laser crown introduced. 2003: No holes case starting (late Y-series). 2007: New certificate (plastic/credit card size) introduced (Z-series). Late 2007: Caliber 3186 instead of 3185 (late Z-series and the M-series). the pictures he sent me clearly has the luge holes. And I know F is 2004, after Y. The pictures do look legit. Should I just stay away from this, or are there F-series GMT-II with the holes? thanks in advance! Attached Images

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swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	If these pics are of the actual watch, a bunch of stuff doesn't add up. It should have SEL's, "Swiss Made" SL dial, a no-holes case. My vote ... pass. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

25 February 2010, 01:55 AM	#3
kgglonghorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Posts: 375	could be an honest mistake, but there are lots of bad people out there... F series definitely NO lug holes. unless it is too good of a deal to pass up AND ou can pay in a manner that you can get your money back (CC, paypal with buyer protection, etc) I would look elsewhere. THere are too many good deals out there now to take any chances. Good luck.

25 February 2010, 02:45 AM	#5
stusrt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Motor City Watch: too many Posts: 1,114	yeah - I didn't even think of the SEL - good call. so either this guy has his serial numbers mixed up or it's a scam. I asked for pics of the serial number on the watch, we'll see what response I get if any.

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