The bad reception with the new iPhone 4 is NOT a rumor, it's true :(

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by TheDude

Well, I would argue Apple has only popularized technology innovations.

That's what I meant.

Good synopsis!

[Rockrolex]

The Blackberry Storm 2 does not have those problems. Hint, hint.

[TheDude]

Originally Posted by 777

That's what I meant.

Good synopsis!

You're right - I reread your statement and realized you said "pushed".

[openwheelracing]

Verizon and Google Android operating system is the way to go. Apple offers very little in tech innovation. They do, offer very pretty technology packages and great marketing.

I wonder why people still buy Apples....for all the healthy nutrients?

[kcmo]

Wow, this is ridiculous! I'm staying put with T-Mobile and my BB until the issues are resolved. Just don't feel comfortable switching yet.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Wow, this is ridiculous! I'm staying put with T-Mobile and my BB until the issues are resolved. Just don't feel comfortable switching yet.

That's been my winning combination for several years.

I'm still grandfathered in on the original BB 1,000 anytime minutes + unlimited text / data plan for an excellent rate.

Running a 9700 Bold II and loving every (anytime) minute of it.

[esm]

Originally Posted by rkb

I added a case to my iPhone 4 to see if that would help the issue. Happily, I can report that it has made a difference, Apple still has some explaining to do.....

thats what i was thinking... adding a case or the colour bumpers from Apple.

this should reduce the interference caused by human hand/fingers..


did you know that if you hold your car remote control under your chin - this would increase the distance of the transmitting signal between you and your car? (your head acts like a massive antenna)

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by esm

(your head acts like a massive antenna)

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by esm

did you know that if you hold your car remote control under your chin - this would increase the distance of the transmitting signal between you and your car? (your head acts like a massive antenna)

Yep, just point it at your head and the range is increased, Clarkson did it on top gear a couple of seasons ago.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by 777

That's been my winning combination for several years.

I'm still grandfathered in on the original BB 1,000 anytime minutes + unlimited text / data plan for an excellent rate.

Running a 9700 Bold II and loving every (anytime) minute of it.

LOL! I'm on the same grandfathered plan!!! What theme are you using? I like it!

[esm]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Yep, just point it at your head and the range is increased, Clarkson did it on top gear a couple of seasons ago.

new season Top Gear should be airing this weekend me thinks

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by kcmo

LOL! I'm on the same grandfathered plan!!! What theme are you using? I like it!

I got my plan with the old 7100t in 2004. I had to get the 9700 off eBay because they won't sell you one without updating you to a new plan now (recent change in policy).

The theme is "Sector 8". Each of the sections at the top are clickable and 3 of them are user defined. An excellent freebie. http://www.mobilethemesworld.com/fre...n-today-8-icon

The wallpaper is one of my favorites from the "Spirit Warriors" collection by Arlene LaDell Hayes; picked up at an art gallery in San Antonio. I affectionately call it "Spirit Critters".

[TheDude]

1 yr later and I still love my Palm Pre on Sprint.

Marvelous device, and Sprint throws in all the extras like TV and turn-by-turn GPS for free!

Cheapest plans around!

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by 777

I got my plan with the old 7100t in 2004. I had to get the 9700 off eBay because they won't sell you one without updating you to a new plan now (recent change in policy).

The theme is "Sector 8". Each of the sections at the top are clickable and 3 of them are user defined. An excellent freebie. http://www.mobilethemesworld.com/fre...n-today-8-icon

The wallpaper is one of my favorites from the "Spirit Warriors" collection by Arlene LaDell Hayes; picked up at an art gallery in San Antonio. I affectionately call it "Spirit Critters".

I love her work! I've seen it many times when I've gone to San Antonio, in La Villita. One of these days I'm going to get one. She's pricy, but well worth it!

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by 777

I got my plan with the old 7100t in 2004. I had to get the 9700 off eBay because they won't sell you one without updating you to a new plan now (recent change in policy).

The theme is "Sector 8". Each of the sections at the top are clickable and 3 of them are user defined. An excellent freebie. http://www.mobilethemesworld.com/fre...n-today-8-icon

The wallpaper is one of my favorites from the "Spirit Warriors" collection by Arlene LaDell Hayes; picked up at an art gallery in San Antonio. I affectionately call it "Spirit Critters".

Cool, thanks!

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by TheDude

1 yr later and I still love my Palm Pre on Sprint.

Marvelous device, and Sprint throws in all the extras like TV and turn-by-turn GPS for free!

Cheapest plans around!

They offer 100 less minutes than I have for $30 more than I pay.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by 2th DR

I love her work! I've seen it many times when I've gone to San Antonio, in La Villita. One of these days I'm going to get one. She's pricy, but well worth it!

Yep. That is the place!

Her work is also available at a gallery in Taos.

[TheDude]

Originally Posted by 777

They offer 100 less minutes than I have for $30 more than I pay.

Shrug. Unlimited is $99 with data, with TV, and with GPS. TV is extra everywhere else, and GPS is at least another $10 per month on other carriers. I travel a ton, and now I don't need to carry a dedicated GPS, mount, and charger.

Also, Sprint is loose on Friends and Family policies. Someone hooked me up with that discount so monthly is $10 cheaper per month.

Palm houses all your data and backup in the cloud for free. If you lose or break your phone, all you do is log into the new phone with your Palm account and the cloud restores your stuff on the new device. That's a "coming soon" with Android, and Apple's MobileMe is $99 a year.

[esm]

FierceWireless email article re: iPhone 4 bad reception issue

2. Apple addresses iPhone 4 reception issue
By Phil Goldstein Comment | Forward | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn

Two main themes arose out of Apple's (NASDAQ:AAPL) launch of the iPhone 4 this week: concerns about the smartphone's cellular reception and surging sales of the device. Guess which one the company likely was more pleased with?

Shortly after the gadget's release, reports began filtering in from users seeing degradations in their cellular signal strength when they held the phone in a certain way--specifically when their fingers touched the stainless steel band that houses the phone's antenna.

Apple yesterday acknowledged the problem, but explained the issue is common to all wireless phones.

"Gripping any mobile phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance, with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas," Apple said in the statement. "This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. If you ever experience this on your iPhone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band, or simply use one of many available cases."
Apple CEO Steve Jobs again deployed his taciturn tone to one customer's query on the topic: "Just avoid holding it in that way," he reportedly responded via email.

Despite the issue, sales of the the smartphone appear brisk. Apple took more than 600,000 pre-orders for the phone, Best Buy sold out of the device, RadioShack is looking to re-fill its inventory and Wal-Mart also reported strong sales. Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster predicts sales of 1 million to 1.5 million iPhones by Saturday, while Oppenheimer analyst Yair Reiner said in a research note he thinks Apple sold 1.5 million phones on Thursday alone.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by TheDude

Unlimited is $99 with data, with TV, and with GPS.

I'll bet some of the iPhone folks who are locked into AT&T are a little annoyed about their (AT&T) move away from unlimited data plans.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by esm

FierceWireless email article re: iPhone 4 bad reception issue

And his Mac's are "secure". Mhmmm... http://secunia.com/advisories/produc...ask=statistics

[ade06]

Fyi, if your iphone drops your calls... you're holding it wrong. See linky below.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc2844

[jbutler]

I haven't had this issue with mine, and neither does my friend who picked up a phone with me at launch. It's not all of them...

[esm]

good linky me think.

I hold my phone with my fingers just like the writer of that article.

It makes you wonder if Apple already knew the problem, hence the expensive bumper case...... mmm....

Haven got my iPhone 4 yet, but have already sourced a silican case from the bay... So will see how that goes.

[daveathall]

I've not found it a problem, I have held my finger directly over the black strip on the left bottom corner of the phone and don't see any difference to the reception bars.

[wsaraceni]

ive used the iphone 4 for a day now and a few things

1. im a huge apple fan. but not blind, if they build something i think is junk ill say it.
2. i havent been able to, at all, get the problem with holding it wrong, to replicate for me UNLESS i am in an area with horrible reception. and with any other phones ive tried, i never got reception there to begin with.
3. the new phone is incredibly fast and the screen is a thing of beauty.
4. im more than happy with my purchase.
5. i've been in my office in NYC all day, which i normally get horrible service in (and still do on my tmobile blackberry) and i am getting great service all day. something i cant say about my 3g that i used to have.
6. the new software is greatly improved.

[daveathall]

If anything I get better reception than I did with my 3GS, in my village I got no reception whatsoever before, still not great, but useable.

[BarkMaster]

So basically y'all are confirming that there is a build quality issue on some (not all) units... no consistency in the failure.

Looks like this is going to be a tough nut to crack for Apple.

[wsaraceni]

Originally Posted by 777

So basically y'all are confirming that there is a build quality issue on some (not all) units... no consistency in the failure.

Looks like this is going to be a tough nut to crack for Apple.

i dont know if thats the truth. i know 10 people with the iphone 4. the thing we have come up with is that in areas of poor network signal, where our 3g and 3gs iphones had NO signal, we can get usable iphone 4 signals if we dont hold it that way. in any other area, the attenuation is sooo slight that it doesnt make any difference. we have not yet found anyone that had lost signal on an iphone 4 where they used to have it on 3g or 3gs phones

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by wsaraceni

i dont know if thats the truth. i know 10 people with the iphone 4. the thing we have come up with is that in areas of poor network signal, where our 3g and 3gs iphones had NO signal, we can get usable iphone 4 signals if we dont hold it that way. in any other area, the attenuation is sooo slight that it doesnt make any difference. we have not yet found anyone that had lost signal on an iphone 4 where they used to have it on 3g or 3gs phones

It will be interesting to see if that is a consistent observation.

Time will tell!