Explorer II

[Aspirin]

Is there any owners like to tell me about which series or movement of Explorer II 16570 come with parachrom hairspring (blue hairspring)? What I want to get the model is come with parachrom hairspring and inner ring laser Rolex engraved. Thanks!

[tomchicago]

I have M series which has 3186. Sweet.

[Gerardus]

I have a V serie, but do not know, i think, hope and presume an 3186.

[Aspirin]

3186, the most updated calibre for Explorer II?

[Juggernaut]

I had an M series Exp II with the 3186 and traded it up for a Z series GMT II. Even though I have the older 3185 movement, I can definitely sleep at night. I prefer the looks of the GMT.

[jrpb]

Originally Posted by Aspirin

3186, the most updated calibre for Explorer II?

yes
i have a V serial and adore it, its a great watch. If you search exp II in the tab at the top youll find some great threads on the watch, and some stunning photo's.
You will also find how to establish if a particular watch has the 3185 or 3186 movement just by fully rotating the crown, i think its 4 revolutions for a 3186 will move the hour hand a full 12 hours (check as my memory isnt very good )


oh and good luck in your search

[jmsrolls]

All "M" and later will have the 3186 with the parachrom hairspring and inner ring laser Rolex engraved.

Here's my M/3186:





Fr. John†

[DSJ]

Right. General rule of thumb is that if it has the rehaut engraving it PROBABLY has the 3186 movement.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Gerardus

I have a V serie, but do not know, i think, hope and presume an 3186.

Definitely is, no worries, Gerardus!!

[Aspirin]

The conclusion is, I ask for V or M series at AD, is that correct to get the most updated model of Exp.2, right?

[ayres]

isn't this like your second or third thread about the exp2?

and i think everyone is telling you the same thing...

so pull the trigger!

[Brich436]

I have a Z706XXX series Explorer 2. It does not have the rehaut engraving.

I believe it is one of the last Z series models without it which I personally prefer.

I don't know if it has the 3186 movement.

[Aspirin]

I know not every AD have the updated model, then let see how luck of mine!

[Gerardus]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Definitely is, no worries, Gerardus!!

Ok, thanxs and JJ-Have a nice weekend!!

[Aspirin]

Originally Posted by jmsrolls

All "M" and later will have the 3186 with the parachrom hairspring and inner ring laser Rolex engraved.

Here's my M/3186:





Fr. John***8224;

You had changed yourself the crystal, or... 'M' series omitted the date magnifier? it seems that the flat crystal is not bad.

[jmsrolls]

Originally Posted by Aspirin

You had changed yourself the crystal, or... 'M' series omitted the date magnifier? it seems that the flat crystal is not bad.

I removed the Cyclops from a Rolex "service" crystal and did a swap. Doing so opened up the dial and made the date viewable from greater angles. It also make for more symmetry.



Fr. John†

[Aspirin]

Yea, jmsrolls, well done for this, sometimes I also feel the magnifier is disturb the view angle, change it to flat surface much better, and looks much more smart. RSC cost you much for this?

[jmsrolls]

Originally Posted by Aspirin

Yea, jmsrolls, well done for this, sometimes I also feel the magnifier is disturb the view angle, change it to flat surface much better, and looks much more smart. RSC cost you much for this?

Actually, the work was done by my local watchmaker for $175 including the cost of the crystal, swapping the crystals, and pressure testing the watch. I spent $4 for the acetone I soaked the crystal in to remove the Cyclops. Best money I ever spent.

Try this with the Cyclops in place:



Fr. John†

[Aspirin]

Okay, let's ask for RSC if offer such change. & thanks! jmsrolls

[sakuraba]

Crown test:
1 full turn of the crown=8 jumps for a 3186
an 5 jumps for a 3185.

Also, the 4th hand of the 3185 will wiggle when jumping, while the 3186's will not.

Hope this helps.

[Z_Z]

I have a Z with the 3186.

[Aspirin]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Crown test:
1 full turn of the crown=8 jumps for a 3186
an 5 jumps for a 3185.

Also, the 4th hand of the 3185 will wiggle when jumping, while the 3186's will not.

Hope this helps.

Thanks sakuraba, but I really don't get about 8 jumps(3186) and 5 jumps(3185), the hour and min. hands are smooth to go when wind the crown for my DJ, is that you mean the hands of Exp.2 is jump like a zombie when wind the crown? Thanks for more practical and helpful share!

[jrpb]

...........does the removal of the cyclops count as a modification for servicing problems in the future? i really like the look but dont want to cause problems in the future.

[Aspirin]

Originally Posted by jmsrolls

Actually, the work was done by my local watchmaker for $175 including the cost of the crystal, swapping the crystals, and pressure testing the watch. I spent $4 for the acetone I soaked the crystal in to remove the Cyclops. Best money I ever spent.

Try this with the Cyclops in place:



Fr. John†

As you know, the bezel can be replaced or not? it seems that the bezel come fixed with the case, but i'm not sure, coz I'm considering of the black 24 engraved printed numbers will be faded or scratch after day by day use.

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by Aspirin

Thanks sakuraba, but I really don't get about 8 jumps(3186) and 5 jumps(3185), the hour and min. hands are smooth to go when wind the crown for my DJ, is that you mean the hands of Exp.2 is jump like a zombie when wind the crown? Thanks for more practical and helpful share!

When you adjust the hour hand of the 3185/ 3186, it "jumps" one hour at a time. 8 jumps for each complete turn of the crown if you have a 3186 movement.

[Aspirin]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

When you adjust the hour hand of the 3185/ 3186, it "jumps" one hour at a time. 8 jumps for each complete turn of the crown if you have a 3186 movement.

Yes, got it, pal! thanks again for this!

[jmsrolls]

Originally Posted by Z_Z

I have a Z with the 3186.

Some late Zs have the 3186.

Fr. John†

[jmsrolls]

Originally Posted by Aspirin

As you know, the bezel can be replaced or not? it seems that the bezel come fixed with the case, but i'm not sure, coz I'm considering of the black 24 engraved printed numbers will be faded or scratch after day by day use.

The bezel is fixed but easily replaced if necessary - and for less than a rotating bezel. Mine has survived two years of service w/o a scratch that I could not remove myself. The EXPII bezel is much more durable than the GMT.

Fr. John+

[jmsrolls]

Originally Posted by jrpb

...........does the removal of the cyclops count as a modification for servicing problems in the future? i really like the look but dont want to cause problems in the future.

I have all of my non-warranty work/service performed by my local watchmaker and since he helped me with the change, I do not anticipate a problem.

As for your white EXPII, I would not recommend removing the Cyclops. The white dial sans Cyclops IMO is too bland a look.

Fr. John†

[Aspirin]

Originally Posted by jmsrolls

The bezel is fixed but easily replaced if necessary - and for less than a rotating bezel. Mine has survived two years of service w/o a scratch that I could not remove myself. The EXPII bezel is much more durable than the GMT.

Fr. John+

thanks! jmsrolls