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RLXSTR · 14 December 2010, 06:33 AM

I've acquired a piece of Rolex history! The information I've found on this particular Rolex is very interesting!

It's a 1954 Rolex Submariner (Brevet) Ref 6205. It has the original dial, hands, bezel and always been serviced. It's been kept in a safe and worn sparing. One owner who was a world traveler.

Here is some history facts to enjoy.

The model submariners in production in 1953 and was presented at the Basel fair in 1954 to see. The number of cases was associated with a reference to this first Submariner either 6204 or 6205th It is unclear which model came first and in each case, the two watches are nearly identical. Neither has the property "cathedral" or "Mercedes" hands, is now so closely associated with the Submariner line. Instead the first two U-boats have the right to "pencil" style hands. Few, if any, of the 6205 watches with the name "Submariner" on the dial, an important distinction with modern divers. Some models have printed the 6204 Submariner logo below the center pinion, while others have the logo of the consciousness to lose. We believe that it must have been released unexpected problems related to trademark the name "Submariner" at the time in 6204 and 6205, for the improper use of the Submariner mark on these principles of divers account. Despite the signs of irregularities in the 6204 and 6205 Submariner models in the product documentation Rolex are designated at the time.

The back of the original Submariner Rolex green sticker removed
In 1954, Rolex has produced a small number of ref. 6200 divers. This was the first Submariner (although not the first Rolex) make use of the Mercedes to put his hand (a feature of all divers later). The 6200 also a large crown (compared with 6204 and 6205 models). In recent years, Rolex Submariner online its production of 6536 (small crown) and 6538 (oversized crown has revised models). These watches had "improved" movements (the Cal. 1030), including a chronometer version in some 6536 models (named 6536 / 1), Mercedes hands on now with the Submariner logo and depth rating dial. In the 1960s, these models gave way to 5508 (small crown) and 5510 (large crown models.) These principles are both "Submariner Gold (6200, 6204, 6205), or gilded silver / (6536, 6538) brilliantly under pressure black mark. radium paint was used for the light index

G.D.BeanCounter · 14 December 2010, 07:00 AM

Congrats Donald.
Interesting read. Thanks for sharing. I would venture to say, you have certainly landed a collector's piece.

Yazo · 14 December 2010, 08:19 AM

Wow!! Big congrats!!

HL65 · 14 December 2010, 09:00 AM

X2!! Enjoy it!!!

glocati · 14 December 2010, 09:10 AM

Awesome !!

Frogman4me · 14 December 2010, 09:13 AM

Awesome!!!

CaveDiver · 14 December 2010, 09:35 AM

very nice.. gotta love the second's hand

Racer X · 14 December 2010, 10:42 AM

Fantastic acquisition. Congrats!

RLXSTR · 15 December 2010, 01:52 AM

Still doing research on the 6205. The History is sure keeps me guessing on this one.

Dan Pierce · 15 December 2010, 01:53 AM

Wow, now that's some history!
dP

Nicko · 15 December 2010, 02:40 AM

Wow! Never seen one before...Very cool...

robsteve · 15 December 2010, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonGoldExchange

Still doing research on the 6205. The History is sure keeps me guessing on this one.

Do you have a photo of the inside of the case back?

SkyKing31 · 15 December 2010, 02:59 AM

Wicked Cool !!!!

cdweller · 15 December 2010, 03:41 AM

Will you wear it regularly?

kcmo · 15 December 2010, 03:47 AM

Amazing!

RLXSTR · 15 December 2010, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robsteve

Do you have a photo of the inside of the case back?

I will be photographing and documenting visually later today. I'll post pics of the movement.

RLXSTR · 15 December 2010, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdweller

Will you wear it regularly?

LOL...no...

Right now, it's housed in my Rolex Collector case along side a Model 163030 DateJust (Pre-OysterQuartz case), the 1952 Explorer IV 52 and a '71 GMT Master 1675 Pepsi.

I feel like a kid in a very expensive candy store...

David AP · 15 December 2010, 05:36 AM

Very wow.

Love the second hand.

Numismatist · 15 December 2010, 05:41 AM

a BIG congrats on that one!

ParisDakarBmw · 15 December 2010, 05:44 AM

Very nice watch!

Congrats!

Subexplorer · 15 December 2010, 06:01 AM

Hello Donald:
Congrats on a historic and classic piece you got there!

I wish you will enjoy wearing it from time to time.
I enjoy my own 5508 (a less valuable reference historically speaking, but charming too) and my only concern about using it daily, is the risk of being stolen. Otherwise, it´s a pleasure to have it on my wrist.
Enjoy in good health, and thank you for sharing it!
Kind regards, Abel

Puffy · 15 December 2010, 07:17 AM

amazing Donald! thanks for sharing mate

RLXSTR · 17 December 2010, 06:06 AM

You are very welcome.

Here are the photos of the movement, back of case for everyone's inspection and enjoyment.

imono · 17 December 2010, 06:44 AM

That is one grail.
I could feel and smell it in the pictures...
Indy Jones will be proud of you...

therolexguy · 17 December 2010, 06:54 AM

Incredible find. Looks great.

Rebel · 17 December 2010, 06:57 AM

ROGERB · 18 December 2010, 01:35 AM

......GREAT FIND!!
I don't recall seeing any pictures of one with a yellow toned bezel?
R

rustedmetal · 18 December 2010, 02:38 AM

Wow!!

Michael M. · 18 December 2010, 05:28 AM

Wow! Looks awesome!

RLXSTR · 19 December 2010, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROGERB

......GREAT FIND!!
I don't recall seeing any pictures of one with a yellow toned bezel?
R

With all the research I've been doing...this model along with the 6204 were practically experimental...so extremely rare and few examples were even developed.

14 December 2010, 06:33 AM	#1
RLXSTR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Donald Location: Texas Watch: Sub5513 / Choc1675 Posts: 826	Look what I have! Rolex Submariner Ref 6205 I've acquired a piece of Rolex history! The information I've found on this particular Rolex is very interesting! It's a 1954 Rolex Submariner (Brevet) Ref 6205. It has the original dial, hands, bezel and always been serviced. It's been kept in a safe and worn sparing. One owner who was a world traveler. Here is some history facts to enjoy. The model submariners in production in 1953 and was presented at the Basel fair in 1954 to see. The number of cases was associated with a reference to this first Submariner either 6204 or 6205th It is unclear which model came first and in each case, the two watches are nearly identical. Neither has the property "cathedral" or "Mercedes" hands, is now so closely associated with the Submariner line. Instead the first two U-boats have the right to "pencil" style hands. Few, if any, of the 6205 watches with the name "Submariner" on the dial, an important distinction with modern divers. Some models have printed the 6204 Submariner logo below the center pinion, while others have the logo of the consciousness to lose. We believe that it must have been released unexpected problems related to trademark the name "Submariner" at the time in 6204 and 6205, for the improper use of the Submariner mark on these principles of divers account. Despite the signs of irregularities in the 6204 and 6205 Submariner models in the product documentation Rolex are designated at the time. The back of the original Submariner Rolex green sticker removed In 1954, Rolex has produced a small number of ref. 6200 divers. This was the first Submariner (although not the first Rolex) make use of the Mercedes to put his hand (a feature of all divers later). The 6200 also a large crown (compared with 6204 and 6205 models). In recent years, Rolex Submariner online its production of 6536 (small crown) and 6538 (oversized crown has revised models). These watches had "improved" movements (the Cal. 1030), including a chronometer version in some 6536 models (named 6536 / 1), Mercedes hands on now with the Submariner logo and depth rating dial. In the 1960s, these models gave way to 5508 (small crown) and 5510 (large crown models.) These principles are both "Submariner Gold (6200, 6204, 6205), or gilded silver / (6536, 6538) brilliantly under pressure black mark. radium paint was used for the light index Attached Images __________________ '66 5513 Meters First \| '77 1675 Chocolate \| '85 DateJust 2-Tone \| Omega Planet Ocean Chrono XL Orange \| 1978 Omega Speedmaster 1st Walk on the Moon

14 December 2010, 09:00 AM	#4
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,011	X2!! Enjoy it!!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

15 December 2010, 01:52 AM	#9
RLXSTR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Donald Location: Texas Watch: Sub5513 / Choc1675 Posts: 826	Still doing research on the 6205. The History is sure keeps me guessing on this one. __________________ '66 5513 Meters First \| '77 1675 Chocolate \| '85 DateJust 2-Tone \| Omega Planet Ocean Chrono XL Orange \| 1978 Omega Speedmaster 1st Walk on the Moon

15 December 2010, 01:53 AM	#10
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,217	Wow, now that's some history! dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

15 December 2010, 05:41 AM	#19
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	a BIG congrats on that one! __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

14 December 2010, 07:00 AM	#2
G.D.BeanCounter Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Watch: Sky DayDate 2 Posts: 1,317	Congrats Donald. Interesting read. Thanks for sharing. I would venture to say, you have certainly landed a collector's piece.

14 December 2010, 08:19 AM	#3
Yazo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,812	Wow!! Big congrats!!

14 December 2010, 09:10 AM	#5
glocati "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Greg Location: Portland, Oregon Watch: 1675/3+16013 Posts: 538	Awesome !!

14 December 2010, 09:13 AM	#6
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Awesome!!!

14 December 2010, 09:35 AM	#7
CaveDiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,075	very nice.. gotta love the second's hand

14 December 2010, 10:42 AM	#8
Racer X "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: Unknown Posts: 999	Fantastic acquisition. Congrats!

15 December 2010, 02:40 AM	#11
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Wow! Never seen one before...Very cool...

15 December 2010, 02:59 AM	#13
SkyKing31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Manalapan Florida Watch: Tridor Masterpiece Posts: 2,819	Wicked Cool !!!!

15 December 2010, 03:41 AM	#14
cdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: PA Watch: SubLV, 1665 Rail Posts: 1,054	Will you wear it regularly?

15 December 2010, 03:47 AM	#15
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Amazing!

15 December 2010, 05:36 AM	#18
David AP "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Posts: 104	Very wow. Love the second hand.

15 December 2010, 05:44 AM	#20
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	Very nice watch! Congrats!

15 December 2010, 06:01 AM	#21
Subexplorer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Abel Location: Down South Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 2,234	Hello Donald: Congrats on a historic and classic piece you got there! I wish you will enjoy wearing it from time to time. I enjoy my own 5508 (a less valuable reference historically speaking, but charming too) and my only concern about using it daily, is the risk of being stolen. Otherwise, it´s a pleasure to have it on my wrist. Enjoy in good health, and thank you for sharing it! Kind regards, Abel __________________ 50 Years of ROLEX Passion! Grail Rolex: 5508 c. 1959 "Bond" Sub.

15 December 2010, 07:17 AM	#22
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	amazing Donald! thanks for sharing mate __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

17 December 2010, 06:06 AM	#23
RLXSTR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Donald Location: Texas Watch: Sub5513 / Choc1675 Posts: 826	You are very welcome. Here are the photos of the movement, back of case for everyone's inspection and enjoyment. Attached Images __________________ '66 5513 Meters First \| '77 1675 Chocolate \| '85 DateJust 2-Tone \| Omega Planet Ocean Chrono XL Orange \| 1978 Omega Speedmaster 1st Walk on the Moon

17 December 2010, 06:44 AM	#24
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	That is one grail. I could feel and smell it in the pictures... Indy Jones will be proud of you...

17 December 2010, 06:54 AM	#25
therolexguy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Todd Location: US Posts: 3,528	Incredible find. Looks great.

17 December 2010, 06:57 AM	#26
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,257	__________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

18 December 2010, 01:35 AM	#27
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	......GREAT FIND!! I don't recall seeing any pictures of one with a yellow toned bezel? R

18 December 2010, 02:38 AM	#28
rustedmetal "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Matthew Location: Mn Watch: 16234 16600 Posts: 512	Wow!!

18 December 2010, 05:28 AM	#29
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Wow! Looks awesome!

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