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GrandDaddy · 30 May 2007, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoTommy

Isn't minding other people's business the American way? If you don't believe me, take a look at our foreign policy!!

Apples and oranges. It's none of your (or mine, or anyone else) business what kind of watch/clothes people wear or what kind of car they drive, etc. This is about a person being bothered by all the fakes around him - NONE OF HIS BUSINESS WHAT THEY'RE WEARING!

RT · 30 May 2007, 03:58 AM

About 10 years ago, I inadvertantly wondered into the "bad" part of Los Angeles by taking a wrong exist. As I was filling up my car at a gas station, a couple of guys came up and asked if my 2 tone Rolex was real. I told them I just picked it up from Tjuana the day before, they smirked and left. I got the heck out of that area fast after that.

Wearing a Rolex attracts (sometimes unwanted) attentions and thank goodness that we have all those knock-offs to confuse the crooks. It is more important for me to keep my watch (without being robbed) than letting people know it is real. Nowadays, I am wearing a very inconspicuous 1940Gruen curvex.

Did I hear that a lot of wealthy people made duplicates of their expensive jewelry so that they could wear them daily and kept the real "Mccoys" in the bank vault? I know, I know that will defeat the purpose of ownership but in this unsafe, violent world, what else can we do?

kenlperry · 30 May 2007, 04:07 AM

Hey RenoTommy.. Why would you stop and get gas in the "bad" part of any city in the first place? Especially if it was at night?? Thank God they didn't do anything to you though... Oh yeah, and I think minding other peoples' business is the "American Government Way", not the American way.... There are alot of U.S. citizens who don't agree with many of our governments decisions, especially under the current administration...

RT · 30 May 2007, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandDaddy

Apples and oranges. It's none of your (or mine, or anyone else) business what kind of watch/clothes people wear or what kind of car they drive, etc. This is about a person being bothered by all the fakes around him - NONE OF HIS BUSINESS WHAT THEY'RE WEARING!

If that's the case, why are we in the forum discussing other people's issues?

I am NOT saying that we should judge an individual by what he wears or what car he drives. Different strokes for different folks. If that is how one feels, it is his prerogative. Aren't you a little judgmental yourself by calling him arrogant?

RT · 30 May 2007, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kenlperry

Hey RenoTommy.. Why would you stop and get gas in the "bad" part of any city in the first place? Especially if it was at night?? Thank God they didn't do anything to you though... Oh yeah, and I think minding other peoples' business is the "American Government Way", not the American way.... There are alot of U.S. citizens who don't agree with many of our governments decisions, especially under the current administration...

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I was making that comment sarcastically.....about the American way. I wish we could go back to the Isolationism Policy that we had prior to WWII.

No, it wasn't at night and I guess that was how they saw my watch. I was stupid enough to forget not to put the watch into my pocket before getting out of the car. Now I know better. Oh, because my car was running out of gas and I didn't realize it was a "bad" area until I got off the exit. By then, I was afraid to run out of gas if I'd got back onto the freeway. I rarely go down to LA so I am NOT familiar with the area.

GrandDaddy · 30 May 2007, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoTommy

About 10 years ago, I inadvertantly wondered into the "bad" part of Los Angeles by taking a wrong exist. As I was filling up my car at a gas station, a couple of guys came up and asked if my 2 tone Rolex was real. I told them I just picked it up from Tjuana the day before, they smirked and left. I got the heck out of that area fast after that.

And what is your definition of "bad" part of town (and please be honest about it)?

Blue Bull · 30 May 2007, 04:50 AM

I have absolutely no time for someone who wears a fake Rolex.To me its a bad character sign.Its just a question of time(no pun inteneded),before that true character will be revieled.The mask will come off.If he cheats on Rolex,he will cheat in life ...

In the days that I could not afford a Rolex,I wore a real Seiko.I wore that watch for 7 years.I also bought my first Rolex,when I could afford it,not when I could buy it.I am proud of that fact.Funny,the longer you have to wait,the more the enjoyment,when reaching that goal.

RT · 30 May 2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandDaddy

And what is your definition of "bad" part of town (and please be honest about it)?

When there are run down houses with heavy bars at their windows and doors. When the sidewalks were dangerous to walk on because of the cracks and potholes. When there are graffitis on every wall with gang insignia. When there are people passing out on the sidewalk and on their own urine. When the gas station attendant had a shot gun right next to him. When there were police cruisers racing up and down the streets with sirens on.
When people came up and asked for a dime. When the public phones were torn off from their booths and the glass windows all smashed.

I retired from a law enforcement agency so I know what a "bad" area is and I bet you do too.

I know where you are coming from, but these are observation calls and NOT judgments.

RT · 30 May 2007, 05:15 AM

Sorry folks, "Granddaddy" and I are drifting away from the main subject. That will happen no longer on MY part.

GrandDaddy · 30 May 2007, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Bull

I have absolutely no time for someone who wears a fake Rolex.To me its a bad character sign.Its just a question of time(no pun inteneded),before that true character will be revieled.The mask will come off.If he cheats on Rolex,he will cheat in life ...

In the days that I could not afford a Rolex,I wore a real Seiko.I wore that watch for 7 years.I also bought my first Rolex,when I could afford it,not when I could buy it.I am proud of that fact.Funny,the longer you have to wait,the more the enjoyment,when reaching that goal.

I have a good chunk of money "invested" in Rolex watches and seeing someone wearing a fake will not bother me. We can still be friends even if you're wearing a fake Rolex and I will not belittle you for doing so.

Wearing a fake is his choice. Whatever floats his boat, to each his own, Your Mileage May Vary and all that crap. Life is too friggin' short to worry about fakes. Some folks really need to come back down to earth.

Rubenonfire · 30 May 2007, 05:36 AM

I think I'm with most on this post when I say I don't care. Honestly, I don't. Does it make me feel a little better that I know mine's authentic? Absolutely. Who wouldn't? Most of us are here because we love our watches more than the average Rolex-owner so there is a sense of pride, and there should be.
That being said, I also echo some of Chris' (Blue Bull's) sentiments. Although I don't think that a fake watch is a dead give away of someone's character (the same way a real watch isn't, either) there is something to be said (generally speaking) for someone who wants to wear a fake watch. We are in no position, however, to make determinations on how that individual is based on what they have around their wrist.
That being said, good fake or bad fake the only person you end up fooling is yourself, which I think is the biggest problem. But if that's what they want to do, FAR be it from me to judge someone else based on material accoutrements. In that case, like KJacques said, it's probably the person making the judgements who should be under closer scrutiny than the person receiving the judgement.

Prince · 30 May 2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoTommy

Sorry folks, "Granddaddy" and I are drifting away from the main subject. That will happen no longer on MY part.

Awww, come on Tommy! "Drifting away from the subject" is what we do best here at TRF.

A good hijack is part of the fun!

RT · 30 May 2007, 05:52 AM

First of all, may be we should explore into why a person, other than collectors like myself and most of this forum members, would spend 2-3 months worth of an average worker wages to buy a (brand new) Rolex watch, while a $10 Wal-mart quartz watch can tell better time. Then (may be) we can understand why some Rolex owners get so offended by the fake ones. Is it ego? Is it disappointment that someone else can get as much attention by having a fake one?

I love MECHANICAL watches. I have watches all the way from Timex to Bulova to Rolex to Patek because they are arts to me and that's why I am a collector. As I previously mentioned, my daily watch is either a Bulova or a Gruen.

RT · 30 May 2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Awww, come on Tommy! "Drifting away from the subject" is what we do best here at TRF.

A good hijack is part of the fun!

No, I don't want to start a "controversy" or an acrimonious atmosphere in this forum. Keeping it friendly to let everybody enjoy the "chat".

GrandDaddy · 30 May 2007, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoTommy

No, I don't want to start a "controversy" or an acrimonious atmosphere in this forum. Keeping it friendly to let everybody enjoy the "chat".

Friendly to who? People who re not from "bad" part of town?

Prince · 30 May 2007, 06:36 AM

It's amazing how almost every thread that has anything to do with "Fakes" manages to eventually turn rather unfriendly.

RT · 30 May 2007, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Awww, come on Tommy! "Drifting away from the subject" is what we do best here at TRF.

A good hijack is part of the fun!

Remember what I told you about the eBay Watch Forum members. I think one of them has come over to this forum......Sigh!!!

Prince · 30 May 2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoTommy

Remember what I told you about the eBay Watch Forum members. I think one of them has come over to this forum......Sigh!!!

Sorry, Tommy. This is a VERY friendly board, but sometimes people are set off by one thing or another in a thread, and things just go from bad to worse.

Probably best to just drop the whole thing and walk away.

BTW, the post I made that you are quoting was meant to encourage having fun. Apparently not working this time!

RT · 30 May 2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Sorry, Tommy. This is a VERY friendly board, but sometimes people are set off by one thing or another in a thread, and things just go from bad to worse.

Probably best to just drop the whole thing and walk away.

BTW, the post I made that you are quoting was meant to encourage having fun. Apparently not working this time!

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Yes indeed. I don't have time for acebric people. You're right, the whole thing is dropped and forgotten. Oh by the way, where am I? And who are you?(g)

GrandDaddy · 30 May 2007, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

It's amazing how almost every thread that has anything to do with "Fakes" manages to eventually turn rather unfriendly.

It's more amazing how people belittle people just because of what they wear. Come back down to earth, it's a good place to live. I'm done before Mr. Reno accuses me of more other stuff.

President · 30 May 2007, 07:06 AM

I wonder how many of you will be banned in - ooh - let's say a week.

J/K

GrandDaddy · 30 May 2007, 07:12 AM

I think we scared the OP, he has not posted since his initial post.

RT · 30 May 2007, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by President

I wonder how many of you will be banned in - ooh - let's say a week.

J/K

Probably none.

Prince · 30 May 2007, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoTommy

...Oh by the way, where am I? And who are you?(g)

Now THAT'S the spirit!!!

Prince · 30 May 2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by President

I wonder how many of you will be banned in - ooh - let's say a week.
J/K

Probably.............YOU!!!

RT · 30 May 2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Probably.............YOU!!!

Believe me, I won't lose any sleep over it if that happens.

JJ where are you? We need you here!!!!

Prince · 30 May 2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoTommy

Believe me, I won't lose any sleep over it if that happens...

No Tommy, I was actually talking to President (Prezzie/Prez/donkeybreath/etc...). He is due for another trouncing!!

Welshwatchman · 30 May 2007, 07:34 AM

I guess that this thread is unlikely to win the "best thread of 2007" award.

Someone put it out of its misery.

Prince · 30 May 2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

...I guess that this thread is unlikely to win the "best thread of 2007" award...

Well Paul, we could always use it as a "training thread" - you know - AVOID THESE PITFALLS AT ALL COSTS!!!

RT · 30 May 2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

No Tommy, I was actually talking to President (Prezzie/Prez/donkeybreath/etc...). He is due for another trouncing!!

Oops, sorry I must have a guilty conscience!

30 May 2007, 04:07 AM	#33
kenlperry "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: KP Location: Washington D.C. Watch: Rolex 19018 Posts: 232	Hey RenoTommy.. Why would you stop and get gas in the "bad" part of any city in the first place? Especially if it was at night?? Thank God they didn't do anything to you though... Oh yeah, and I think minding other peoples' business is the "American Government Way", not the American way.... There are alot of U.S. citizens who don't agree with many of our governments decisions, especially under the current administration... __________________ "Promise Less and Do more"

30 May 2007, 06:36 AM	#46
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	It's amazing how almost every thread that has anything to do with "Fakes" manages to eventually turn rather unfriendly. __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

30 May 2007, 07:34 AM	#58
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	I guess that this thread is unlikely to win the "best thread of 2007" award. Someone put it out of its misery. __________________ ..33

30 May 2007, 03:58 AM	#32
RT Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 355	About 10 years ago, I inadvertantly wondered into the "bad" part of Los Angeles by taking a wrong exist. As I was filling up my car at a gas station, a couple of guys came up and asked if my 2 tone Rolex was real. I told them I just picked it up from Tjuana the day before, they smirked and left. I got the heck out of that area fast after that. Wearing a Rolex attracts (sometimes unwanted) attentions and thank goodness that we have all those knock-offs to confuse the crooks. It is more important for me to keep my watch (without being robbed) than letting people know it is real. Nowadays, I am wearing a very inconspicuous 1940Gruen curvex. Did I hear that a lot of wealthy people made duplicates of their expensive jewelry so that they could wear them daily and kept the real "Mccoys" in the bank vault? I know, I know that will defeat the purpose of ownership but in this unsafe, violent world, what else can we do?

30 May 2007, 04:50 AM	#37
Blue Bull Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,887	I have absolutely no time for someone who wears a fake Rolex.To me its a bad character sign.Its just a question of time(no pun inteneded),before that true character will be revieled.The mask will come off.If he cheats on Rolex,he will cheat in life ... In the days that I could not afford a Rolex,I wore a real Seiko.I wore that watch for 7 years.I also bought my first Rolex,when I could afford it,not when I could buy it.I am proud of that fact.Funny,the longer you have to wait,the more the enjoyment,when reaching that goal.

30 May 2007, 05:15 AM	#39
RT Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 355	Sorry folks, "Granddaddy" and I are drifting away from the main subject. That will happen no longer on MY part.

30 May 2007, 05:36 AM	#41
Rubenonfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Ruben Location: Orange County Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,317	I think I'm with most on this post when I say I don't care. Honestly, I don't. Does it make me feel a little better that I know mine's authentic? Absolutely. Who wouldn't? Most of us are here because we love our watches more than the average Rolex-owner so there is a sense of pride, and there should be. That being said, I also echo some of Chris' (Blue Bull's) sentiments. Although I don't think that a fake watch is a dead give away of someone's character (the same way a real watch isn't, either) there is something to be said (generally speaking) for someone who wants to wear a fake watch. We are in no position, however, to make determinations on how that individual is based on what they have around their wrist. That being said, good fake or bad fake the only person you end up fooling is yourself, which I think is the biggest problem. But if that's what they want to do, FAR be it from me to judge someone else based on material accoutrements. In that case, like KJacques said, it's probably the person making the judgements who should be under closer scrutiny than the person receiving the judgement.

30 May 2007, 05:52 AM	#43
RT Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 355	First of all, may be we should explore into why a person, other than collectors like myself and most of this forum members, would spend 2-3 months worth of an average worker wages to buy a (brand new) Rolex watch, while a $10 Wal-mart quartz watch can tell better time. Then (may be) we can understand why some Rolex owners get so offended by the fake ones. Is it ego? Is it disappointment that someone else can get as much attention by having a fake one? I love MECHANICAL watches. I have watches all the way from Timex to Bulova to Rolex to Patek because they are arts to me and that's why I am a collector. As I previously mentioned, my daily watch is either a Bulova or a Gruen.

30 May 2007, 07:06 AM	#51
President Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: M.Thatcher MP Location: Le Locle Watch: Bear Grylls Posts: 2,913	I wonder how many of you will be banned in - ooh - let's say a week. J/K

30 May 2007, 07:12 AM	#52
GrandDaddy Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 576	I think we scared the OP, he has not posted since his initial post.

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