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dooder202 · 11 July 2011, 12:44 PM

Contemplating which one to buy, I have had the sub-c (black and green)before and loved it. The glidelock clasp is phenomenal. The GMT IIc has the polished center links which I really like (but I might get a datejust that will satisfy that!). The GMT has the fourth hand that I will never use - which raises the question, if you don't use the GMT hand, then what do you set it to?

Obviously both are great watches, I don't dive, so the water resistance of the sub does not matter.

So which would you choose? Pics of the GMT or sub won't hurt!
Cheers,

Eric

jay_man2 · 11 July 2011, 12:49 PM

Sub c because of the Glidelock clasp.

SaddleSC · 11 July 2011, 01:06 PM

I have owned both...I sold the GMTIIC and kept the SubC. I prefer the Glidelock, the more subdued bezel font and the chromalite dial markers on the Submariner. In addition, the PCLs drove me nuts on the GMT. It seemed like they would scratch by just looking at them.

Chipmunk · 11 July 2011, 01:11 PM

I'd go for GMTIIC.

Dan2010 · 11 July 2011, 01:14 PM

Have had 2 Sub Cs. Sold them both and now have a GMTIIC and could not be happier.

Rollie2011 · 11 July 2011, 01:36 PM

I had the same decision to make when I upgraded from my 16610...

I went with the Sub C...

Its a more subdued look. Not so many hands. Not so many numbers.

Its clean, classic and classy

Speed · 11 July 2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dooder202

...which raises the question, if you don't use the GMT hand, then what do you set it to?

You set it to your home time when you are home. Some folks set to all sorts of wacky times...relative's locations etc.

Interesting choices. You don't dive / but want a Sub. You don't travel, but are considering a GMT.

Maybe the DJ is the best choice...very different watch though.

apeogre · 11 July 2011, 01:59 PM

GMT for it's uber comfy case.

rolexsweep · 11 July 2011, 02:46 PM

i bought the gmt... love the pcl

htc8p · 11 July 2011, 04:58 PM

looks like you dont have any need for either of those watches.

get a datejust or go with another brand entirely

travisb · 11 July 2011, 06:31 PM

But if you've had it already then I would try something new and go for the GMTC.

I also don't travel much so I keep the 2nd time zone set at my local standard time.
PCLs are very nice and dress the watch up just the right amount..

Here's a pic-

dddrees · 11 July 2011, 09:26 PM

If you have already had but traded away the Sub C, then maybe it is time to try the GMTIIC.

vukotab · 11 July 2011, 10:04 PM

Judged only by appearance, Sub C LV is my personal favorite.
But, since you already had Sub C, why don`t go with GMT IIc this time? Great looking watch, I like PCL (it gives it somewhat dressier look) and second time zone complication is really nice addition to already perfect watch!

Mistry · 11 July 2011, 10:46 PM

sub, polished bracelet gets buggered easily, plus sub IMO looks nicer and is the classic!

koc · 11 July 2011, 11:00 PM

both are nice , just tack what you prefer :)

TimeOnHand · 11 July 2011, 11:05 PM

Both great watches...

However the GMT is awesome... and don't let the PCL get in the way of your decision because you can always get them brushed...

So what do you think now?

speedo · 11 July 2011, 11:41 PM

how could someone decide this for you? both great watches, both rolex.
i chose the sub (simpler, the clasp felt better and no pcls) but had i chosen the gmt i'd be just as happy right now.

TSW · 11 July 2011, 11:59 PM

Tie for me on this one!

dooder202 · 12 July 2011, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htc8p

looks like you dont have any need for either of those watches.

get a datejust or go with another brand entirely

Well I bet 99% of people who buy the sub don't dive.

As far as the GMT I'm sure many people buy it strictly because of it's second time zone feature.

As far as looking at another brand! Common now, I want a Rolex

. Just because I might not need the features, that certainly does not mean I can't enjoy the quality, design and class of having it.

Speed · 12 July 2011, 12:27 AM

True...but you don't seem to really care for the watches you mentioned.

Perhaps you have already made a decision?

Lanfor · 12 July 2011, 12:38 AM

Both are great watches, but Personally I would go for the Sub-C as I think it looks much neater and not as busy as the GMT II C. Also the Sub-C has the advantage of the glidelock clasp. Sub-C all the way personally !

Green Arrow · 12 July 2011, 12:39 AM

I've owned both, and it depends on your use. If you fly a fair amount though different time zones, then the GMT is very handy. If you jog, time your steaks on the bar-b-que, and so on, the Sub C is better as the detentes on the GMT do not allow for single minute timing. And of course, if you actually dive, then the Submariner is better.

My final solution was the TT 16613 Ceramic Sub in black. Had mine about a year and love it.

Polemic · 12 July 2011, 12:42 AM

They feel nearly the same on the wrist. Both are excellent watches.

Tyr both and buy thats sings to you, IMHO.

James Gould · 14 July 2011, 06:45 AM

Got to try them both on - the GMT looks great in the pics but I've got one and it's just not 100% me - only about 90% me - I had a 16600 SD before it and I want to go back there - either another SD or a BNIB/LNIB Sub ND 14060M - I love the clean dial 14060 non-COSC but would feel safer going for the newer COSC. You can't decide by looking at pics.

globalmedia33 · 14 July 2011, 06:47 AM

GMTIIc.

The Archer · 14 July 2011, 06:52 AM

I like the GMTIIc more just because it is more practical to me. I have lots of relatives over the globe and travel quite a bit. JMHO. Can't go wrong with either.

11 July 2011, 12:44 PM	#1
dooder202 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: US Watch: DateJust Posts: 1,468	Sub-C or GMT IIc? Which and why? Contemplating which one to buy, I have had the sub-c (black and green)before and loved it. The glidelock clasp is phenomenal. The GMT IIc has the polished center links which I really like (but I might get a datejust that will satisfy that!). The GMT has the fourth hand that I will never use - which raises the question, if you don't use the GMT hand, then what do you set it to? Obviously both are great watches, I don't dive, so the water resistance of the sub does not matter. So which would you choose? Pics of the GMT or sub won't hurt! Cheers, Eric

11 July 2011, 01:06 PM	#3
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	I have owned both...I sold the GMTIIC and kept the SubC. I prefer the Glidelock, the more subdued bezel font and the chromalite dial markers on the Submariner. In addition, the PCLs drove me nuts on the GMT. It seemed like they would scratch by just looking at them. __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

11 July 2011, 01:11 PM	#4
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	I'd go for GMTIIC. __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

11 July 2011, 02:46 PM	#9
rolexsweep "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Australia Watch: RG DD40 Posts: 1,149	i bought the gmt... love the pcl __________________ "Did you get that at retail?"

11 July 2011, 06:31 PM	#11
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,493	I prefer the SubC... But if you've had it already then I would try something new and go for the GMTC. I also don't travel much so I keep the 2nd time zone set at my local standard time. PCLs are very nice and dress the watch up just the right amount.. Here's a pic- Attached Images

11 July 2011, 12:49 PM	#2
jay_man2 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Jay Location: Northern Virginia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,490	Sub c because of the Glidelock clasp.

11 July 2011, 01:14 PM	#5
Dan2010 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Carolina Watch: Panerai 914 Posts: 6,540	Have had 2 Sub Cs. Sold them both and now have a GMTIIC and could not be happier.

11 July 2011, 01:36 PM	#6
Rollie2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: John Location: Palm Beach, FL Watch: Sub-C + Exp 42 Posts: 1,654	I had the same decision to make when I upgraded from my 16610... I went with the Sub C... Its a more subdued look. Not so many hands. Not so many numbers. Its clean, classic and classy

11 July 2011, 01:59 PM	#8
apeogre "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: No Clue Posts: 586	GMT for it's uber comfy case.

11 July 2011, 04:58 PM	#10
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,472	looks like you dont have any need for either of those watches. get a datejust or go with another brand entirely

11 July 2011, 09:26 PM	#12
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	If you have already had but traded away the Sub C, then maybe it is time to try the GMTIIC. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

11 July 2011, 10:04 PM	#13
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	Judged only by appearance, Sub C LV is my personal favorite. But, since you already had Sub C, why don`t go with GMT IIc this time? Great looking watch, I like PCL (it gives it somewhat dressier look) and second time zone complication is really nice addition to already perfect watch! __________________ My fashion blog and Instagram: https://stylebyvukota.com/ https://instagram.com/vukotabrajovic/

11 July 2011, 10:46 PM	#14
Mistry "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: London/Switz Watch: Sub's/OysterP/... Posts: 236	sub, polished bracelet gets buggered easily, plus sub IMO looks nicer and is the classic! __________________ Its better to be feared than loved, for fear is controllable but love never

11 July 2011, 11:00 PM	#15
koc "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: emad Location: Kuwait Watch: LV-PAM312-214270 Posts: 252	both are nice , just tack what you prefer :)

11 July 2011, 11:05 PM	#16
TimeOnHand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Hong Kong Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 4,468	Both great watches... However the GMT is awesome... and don't let the PCL get in the way of your decision because you can always get them brushed... So what do you think now? __________________ Instagram: timeonhand1010

11 July 2011, 11:41 PM	#17
speedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: bp, hu, eu Watch: dj 16234, 116610ln Posts: 2,376	how could someone decide this for you? both great watches, both rolex. i chose the sub (simpler, the clasp felt better and no pcls) but had i chosen the gmt i'd be just as happy right now. __________________ *16234 jubilee dial, 116610 ln, grand seiko sbgm221g, omega speedmaster mark II, longines legend diver, breguet 3910, nomos club campus 38, swatch sistem51, mares nemo, seiko ripley, g-shock rangeman* instagram: modus_horologicus

11 July 2011, 11:59 PM	#18
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Tie for me on this one! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

12 July 2011, 12:27 AM	#20
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	True...but you don't seem to really care for the watches you mentioned. Perhaps you have already made a decision?

12 July 2011, 12:38 AM	#21
Lanfor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: London Watch: Submariner-16610LV Posts: 1,798	Both are great watches, but Personally I would go for the Sub-C as I think it looks much neater and not as busy as the GMT II C. Also the Sub-C has the advantage of the glidelock clasp. Sub-C all the way personally ! __________________ Rolex Submariner - 16610LV

12 July 2011, 12:39 AM	#22
Green Arrow "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,060	I've owned both, and it depends on your use. If you fly a fair amount though different time zones, then the GMT is very handy. If you jog, time your steaks on the bar-b-que, and so on, the Sub C is better as the detentes on the GMT do not allow for single minute timing. And of course, if you actually dive, then the Submariner is better. My final solution was the TT 16613 Ceramic Sub in black. Had mine about a year and love it.

12 July 2011, 12:42 AM	#23
Polemic "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Turkey Watch: 116610 LN Posts: 356	They feel nearly the same on the wrist. Both are excellent watches. Tyr both and buy thats sings to you, IMHO.

14 July 2011, 06:45 AM	#24
James Gould Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK Posts: 16	Got to try them both on - the GMT looks great in the pics but I've got one and it's just not 100% me - only about 90% me - I had a 16600 SD before it and I want to go back there - either another SD or a BNIB/LNIB Sub ND 14060M - I love the clean dial 14060 non-COSC but would feel safer going for the newer COSC. You can't decide by looking at pics.

14 July 2011, 06:47 AM	#25
globalmedia33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Thien Location: Frisco,TX/Saigon Watch: All Rolex Posts: 2,754	GMTIIc. __________________ Sub. 5513 116710LN 116610LV “I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

14 July 2011, 06:52 AM	#26
The Archer Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Adam Location: Texas Watch: G-Shock! Posts: 383	I like the GMTIIc more just because it is more practical to me. I have lots of relatives over the globe and travel quite a bit. JMHO. Can't go wrong with either.

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