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isampark · 29 July 2011, 03:39 AM

I today learned another new term while surfing TRF, a symptom called 'the stretch'.

My P-Serial 16610 seems to me a bit stretched. I have taken some pictures.

Please assess the severity of my Stretch!

MortgageGuy · 29 July 2011, 03:57 AM

Yup there is a bit of "stretch" there but I for one dont think it looks bad at all. Looks pretty comfy

the best way to avoid this is to keep the bracelet clean, perhaps wash it in warm soapy water once a week or so and use a soft toothbrush to insure you get all the dirt out, this will eliminate any future "stretching"

isampark · 29 July 2011, 04:14 AM

Thanks Adam,

I am waiting for my Veraet cleaning kit I bought last week, but it looks like it will take some time, so I will clean my watch using soap water this weekend.

MonBK · 29 July 2011, 04:17 AM

Doesn't look too bad.

s14roller · 29 July 2011, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

Yup there is a bit of "stretch" there but I for one dont think it looks bad at all. Looks pretty comfy

the best way to avoid this is to keep the bracelet clean, perhaps wash it in warm soapy water once a week or so and use a soft toothbrush to insure you get all the dirt out, this will eliminate any future "stretching"

My Sub is pretty mint as it's a weekend watch, but I normally keep it away from water (washing included).

Would washing it/keeping it cleaner help against stretch? I would have thought metal stretching was more due to how much it's worn, and not so much how dirty it is?

Tools · 29 July 2011, 04:24 AM

If you get a loupe and look at where the link-bars are, you can get a good idea of it's wear. They don't actually stretch, but the bars wear away grooves in the links.. Yours really isn't too bad at all. There is movement there and always some wiggle..

Here is one of my links from an older (by just a couple of years) T serial.

You can see that there is some wear, but minimal. This is what you are looking for..

dieseldragon · 29 July 2011, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14roller

My Sub is pretty mint as it's a weekend watch, but I normally keep it away from water (washing included).

Would washing it/keeping it cleaner help against stretch? I would have thought metal stretching was more due to how much it's worn, and not so much how dirty it is?

Its the dirt that gets trapped that causes the problem, it works like a grinding paste.

Oyster1982 · 29 July 2011, 04:45 AM

My DJ is 21 years old and has no stretch. If you wash it and clean out the band it wont stretch.

Danand · 29 July 2011, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14roller

My Sub is pretty mint as it's a weekend watch, but I normally keep it away from water (washing included).

Would washing it/keeping it cleaner help against stretch? I would have thought metal stretching was more due to how much it's worn, and not so much how dirty it is?

You keep your sub away from water? Are you joking? Do you place a plastic bag over your dogs head so it doesn't breathe in dirty air too? As long your Sub is pressure tested now and then there is NO reason to keep it away from water- it won't melt. It may even be good for it in keeping it clean!

dddrees · 29 July 2011, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

Yup there is a bit of "stretch" there but I for one dont think it looks bad at all. Looks pretty comfy

the best way to avoid this is to keep the bracelet clean, perhaps wash it in warm soapy water once a week or so and use a soft toothbrush to insure you get all the dirt out, this will eliminate any future "stretching"

X2

Well said.

spyderco10 · 29 July 2011, 05:16 AM

oh i thought the the bars bend, and that's why the bracelet stretches. i didn't know the bars actually dig grooves into the links.

ec51 · 29 July 2011, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14roller

My Sub is pretty mint as it's a weekend watch, but I normally keep it away from water (washing included).

Would washing it/keeping it cleaner help against stretch? I would have thought metal stretching was more due to how much it's worn, and not so much how dirty it is?

It's a SUBMARINER. The water will not hurt it....and as long as you properly clean it, it will delay any stretch from setting in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danand

You keep your sub away from water? Are you joking? Do you place a plastic bag over your dogs head so it doesn't breathe in dirty air too? As long your Sub is pressure tested now and then there is NO reason to keep it away from water- it won't melt. It may even be good for it in keeping it clean!

isampark · 29 July 2011, 05:26 AM

I will duly clean my watch from now on!

By the way, how bad the stretch has to be before RSC gives you the ultimatum and recommend exchange of bracelet? <- and how much does a new 93250 oyster bracelet cost?

rosspanics · 29 July 2011, 05:28 AM

Haven't washed mine in a while... going to wash now! Be right back...

Johny · 29 July 2011, 05:32 AM

i use washing up liquid.

ec51 · 29 July 2011, 05:48 AM

Ultrasonic!

ecsub44 · 29 July 2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ec51

Ultrasonic!

Only on the bracelet though...

Newportkrieger · 29 July 2011, 06:21 AM

Your bracelet has a bit of stretch but not excessive. When have you checked or replaced your spring bars???

I have heard that ultrasonic cleaning is the best and most thorough. I do not have an ultrasonic cleaner and I use dish soap as it is designed to cut grease and oil better than bar or other kinds of soap and rinse as cleanly as possible with no residue.

ec51 · 29 July 2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ecsub44

Only on the bracelet though...

Yes, thank you...forgot to mention that.

isampark · 29 July 2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newportkrieger

Your bracelet has a bit of stretch but not excessive. When have you checked or replaced your spring bars???

I have heard that ultrasonic cleaning is the best and most thorough. I do not have an ultrasonic cleaner and I use dish soap as it is designed to cut grease and oil better than bar or other kinds of soap and rinse as cleanly as possible with no residue.

I recently bought it pre-owned.
The dealer I bought it from polished and cleaned the watch for me at the time of purchase.

But, it's a P-Series model so made in 2000~2001. And I have no idea when this watch had parts replacement service.

I am planning to drop by RSC in Toronto tomorrow to get it assessed.

I hope they don't call off the bracelets

isampark · 29 July 2011, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ec51

Yes, thank you...forgot to mention that.

I am curious, what would happen if you put the whole thing into Ultrasonic cleaner?

ec51 · 29 July 2011, 06:47 AM

I bought a rather cheap Ultrasonic on Amazon. I'll use if after camping or a day at the beach usually. My wife actually uses it more for her jewelry now.

Otherwise, I will just use my Varaet kit or just some regular soap and warm water.

A toothbrush is also really handy...!

rolexpawn · 29 July 2011, 07:02 AM

I have got some stretch on my 93150 bracelet, however it is so comfortable I just cannot see buying a new one.

meckert · 29 July 2011, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isampark

Thanks Adam,

I am waiting for my Veraet cleaning kit I bought last week, but it looks like it will take some time, so I will clean my watch using soap water this weekend.

I just ordered some as well and WTF?!? They emailed and said it would be WEEKS before receiving it!

Onikage · 29 July 2011, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14roller

My Sub is pretty mint as it's a weekend watch, but I normally keep it away from water (washing included).

Would washing it/keeping it cleaner help against stretch? I would have thought metal stretching was more due to how much it's worn, and not so much how dirty it is?

Ewwwwww

Danand · 29 July 2011, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isampark

I am curious, what would happen if you put the whole thing into Ultrasonic cleaner?

I don't think you want to seethe service bill afterwards if you do that!

Btw the bracelet likely isn't nearly bad enough that rolex will suggest changing it IMO.

Oyster1982 · 29 July 2011, 10:24 AM

A Sub not allowed near water, thats not right. Hell my DJ is a weakling compared to the Sub and that thing is in water all the time, either washing the car, swimming, showering, and of course when she gets a nice bubble bath once a week. Here is a pic from last weeks bubble bath:

ddnyc77 · 29 July 2011, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

If you get a loupe and look at where the link-bars are, you can get a good idea of it's wear. They don't actually stretch, but the bars wear away grooves in the links.. Yours really isn't too bad at all. There is movement there and always some wiggle..

Here is one of my links from an older (by just a couple of years) T serial.

You can see that there is some wear, but minimal. This is what you are looking for..

This is why I read ever word Larry writes.... this is good

RolexPete32 · 29 July 2011, 10:52 AM

How old is it and do you wear it everyday?

MortgageGuy · 29 July 2011, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isampark

Thanks Adam,

I am waiting for my Veraet cleaning kit I bought last week, but it looks like it will take some time, so I will clean my watch using soap water this weekend.

Yeah you do not need anything fancy, I find that liquid hand soap and a soft toothbrush work the best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14roller

My Sub is pretty mint as it's a weekend watch, but I normally keep it away from water (washing included).

Would washing it/keeping it cleaner help against stretch? I would have thought metal stretching was more due to how much it's worn, and not so much how dirty it is?

Absolutely. First of all your sub is made for being in the water as a dive watch, don't worry a bit about it. I would have it pressure checked at an AD every year or two if you regularly wear in the water and of course make sure the crown is tight

Washing it and keeping it clean will most definitely keep the bracelet like new for years/decades to come

29 July 2011, 03:39 AM	#1
isampark Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Sam Location: Toronto, ON Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 134	How bad is my bracelet stretch? I today learned another new term while surfing TRF, a symptom called 'the stretch'. My P-Serial 16610 seems to me a bit stretched. I have taken some pictures. Please assess the severity of my Stretch!

29 July 2011, 03:57 AM	#2
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Yup there is a bit of "stretch" there but I for one dont think it looks bad at all. Looks pretty comfy the best way to avoid this is to keep the bracelet clean, perhaps wash it in warm soapy water once a week or so and use a soft toothbrush to insure you get all the dirt out, this will eliminate any future "stretching" __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

29 July 2011, 04:24 AM	#6
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,516	If you get a loupe and look at where the link-bars are, you can get a good idea of it's wear. They don't actually stretch, but the bars wear away grooves in the links.. Yours really isn't too bad at all. There is movement there and always some wiggle.. Here is one of my links from an older (by just a couple of years) T serial. You can see that there is some wear, but minimal. This is what you are looking for.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

29 July 2011, 04:45 AM	#8
Oyster1982 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Ed Location: Jersey Shore Watch: Rolex DJ Posts: 1,905	My DJ is 21 years old and has no stretch. If you wash it and clean out the band it wont stretch. __________________ It 10pm do you know where your Datejust is? http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/...DA0MC5qcGc.jpg

29 July 2011, 05:32 AM	#15
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	i use washing up liquid. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

29 July 2011, 04:14 AM	#3
isampark Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Sam Location: Toronto, ON Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 134	Thanks Adam, I am waiting for my Veraet cleaning kit I bought last week, but it looks like it will take some time, so I will clean my watch using soap water this weekend.

29 July 2011, 04:17 AM	#4
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Doesn't look too bad.

29 July 2011, 05:16 AM	#11
spyderco10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 126	oh i thought the the bars bend, and that's why the bracelet stretches. i didn't know the bars actually dig grooves into the links.

29 July 2011, 05:26 AM	#13
isampark Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Sam Location: Toronto, ON Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 134	I will duly clean my watch from now on! By the way, how bad the stretch has to be before RSC gives you the ultimatum and recommend exchange of bracelet? <- and how much does a new 93250 oyster bracelet cost?

29 July 2011, 05:28 AM	#14
rosspanics "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rocky Mountains Watch: Exp2, Exp1 Posts: 727	Haven't washed mine in a while... going to wash now! Be right back...

29 July 2011, 05:48 AM	#16
ec51 Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: NY Watch: 14060M Posts: 1,642	Ultrasonic!

29 July 2011, 06:21 AM	#18
Newportkrieger Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Newport Beach, CA Watch: GMT Master Pepsi Posts: 1,243	Your bracelet has a bit of stretch but not excessive. When have you checked or replaced your spring bars??? I have heard that ultrasonic cleaning is the best and most thorough. I do not have an ultrasonic cleaner and I use dish soap as it is designed to cut grease and oil better than bar or other kinds of soap and rinse as cleanly as possible with no residue.

29 July 2011, 06:47 AM	#22
ec51 Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: NY Watch: 14060M Posts: 1,642	I bought a rather cheap Ultrasonic on Amazon. I'll use if after camping or a day at the beach usually. My wife actually uses it more for her jewelry now. Otherwise, I will just use my Varaet kit or just some regular soap and warm water. A toothbrush is also really handy...!

29 July 2011, 07:02 AM	#23
rolexpawn Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Chester Location: Bolton UK Watch: my Rolex(s) Posts: 479	I have got some stretch on my 93150 bracelet, however it is so comfortable I just cannot see buying a new one.

29 July 2011, 10:24 AM	#27
Oyster1982 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Ed Location: Jersey Shore Watch: Rolex DJ Posts: 1,905	A Sub not allowed near water, thats not right. Hell my DJ is a weakling compared to the Sub and that thing is in water all the time, either washing the car, swimming, showering, and of course when she gets a nice bubble bath once a week. Here is a pic from last weeks bubble bath: __________________ It 10pm do you know where your Datejust is? http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/...DA0MC5qcGc.jpg

29 July 2011, 10:52 AM	#29
RolexPete32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Canada Watch: You know... Rolex Posts: 1,520	How old is it and do you wear it everyday?

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