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tarmyjay · 5 August 2011, 05:43 AM

Hi Guys

Just after your thought and opinions really

Still a bit of a Rolex novice

I am thinking of changing my current 2009 16610 Sub for one of the new models (with the ceramic bezel etc....)

Unfortunately, I cant afford to have both

What do you think????

Thanks in advance

mjclark32 · 5 August 2011, 05:51 AM

If you think the upgrades are worth the money go for it. I am content with the 16610, for now.

dddrees · 5 August 2011, 05:52 AM

Welcome to TRF.

I think it depends on which version you would rather have and whether you are willing to pay the premium required to obtain a newer watch if you so chose. In my opinion there are pluses and minuses for each version if you ask me, however I don't think it is always necessary to upgrade just to get the latest version.

Have you tried on the new 116610? what do you think?

TSW · 5 August 2011, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjclark32

If you think the upgrades are worth the money go for it. I am content with the 16610, for now.

X2

speedo · 5 August 2011, 05:57 AM

i had the chance of deciding and went for the 116610 but there are a lot of guys preferring the older model. i guess you should try on both a decide for yourself.
i like the new look which in my opinion follows the tradition but managed to be very modern at the same time, love the lume, the beautiful ceramic bezel, the maxi dial and reckon that the bracelet itself is worth the change. it is the same old sub as always but with a twist and a touch of the modern era.

tulsaokusa · 5 August 2011, 06:10 AM

You will not be dissappointed.

smallcandle · 5 August 2011, 06:13 AM

Personally, I wouldn't do it. I LOVE my 16610 and would be hard pressed to drink the 'ceramic koolaid'. Go try one on and if she sings to you you'll know what to do...

Passionata · 5 August 2011, 06:35 AM

+1

SaddleSC · 5 August 2011, 06:41 AM

I would make that trade in a heartbeat. I have both (16613 and 116610LV) and the Glidelock clasp alone is worth every penny. I also prefer the maxi dial and the solid link bracelet. Finally, I really like the dimension that the engraved ceramic bezel insert adds to the whole package.

The new Sub C is just absolutely fantastic and it is a watch that is difficult for me to fault.

robertgrom · 5 August 2011, 07:24 AM

It's hard to compete with the classic look of the 16610. However the new upgrades made to the Sub, make 116610 hands down a better watch.

kareemthedream33 · 5 August 2011, 07:40 AM

The 116610 is a better watch technically speaking. Many prefer the older one though. All preference. Once you have the new bracelet with glidelock, it's very hard to go back to the old style.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 5 August 2011, 07:41 AM

I love the new bracelet. I can handle the maxi dial and hands. But, I cannot handle the maxi case with the fat lugs and fat crown guards.

robertgrom · 5 August 2011, 08:01 AM

I like the maxi dial, better for my eyes. The 116610 is a heavier watch, which could be a disadvantage for some.

Megalobyte · 5 August 2011, 08:07 AM

My 116610 is my favorite watch of ALL time. I know the purists will balk, and to each his own, but I think the pre ceramic Subs are a notch below. Fire!!! :)

robertgrom · 5 August 2011, 08:09 AM

I must be a friend of everyone, I've got the 16610LV.

kareemthedream33 · 5 August 2011, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

My 116610 is my favorite watch of ALL time. I know the purists will balk, and to each his own, but I think the pre ceramic Subs are a notch below. Fire!!! :)

X2, the new sub is the best everyday watch on earth IMO.

SaddleSC · 5 August 2011, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareemthedream33

X2, the new sub is the best everyday watch on earth IMO.

100% Agreed

robertgrom · 5 August 2011, 08:17 AM

True, but not for everyone. You must be a modern James Bond to have one.

ManUtd · 5 August 2011, 08:22 AM

The 116610 is a better watch IMO but ultimately it's only you who can determine if the upgrades are worth the £ difference.

dooder202 · 5 August 2011, 08:22 AM

Yes do it. No brainer IMHO.

MortgageGuy · 5 August 2011, 08:23 AM

Not sure I would do it. I also have the 16610 and a 116610LV, I love them both equally. I just cannot get myself to go back to all ceramic as I just sold a couple. I am loving the pre ceramic models again but to each his own.

Perhaps keep your 16610 and save for the 116610LV

Just a thought

nauticajoe · 5 August 2011, 08:26 AM

Tough one. Both great watches. As mentioned, I suggest trying the SubC to see if it smiles back. Only you can make that determination.

Good luck!

robertgrom · 5 August 2011, 08:32 AM

In a year or two your eyes will ask for a maxi dial.

rkim11 · 7 August 2011, 01:00 AM

I love the LV I have...Having said that, went to an AD and held the 116610 for the first time and while I still didn't like the bigger lugs and what it did to the face, the bracelet was fantastic. Didn't try out the glidelock feature but the solid links throughout makes the bracelet way more 'solid.'

gregmoeck · 7 August 2011, 01:59 AM

if you can get over the larger lugs and larger buckle its one hell of an upgrade. I couldnt get over the lugs so I traded it off..

theironchef106 · 7 August 2011, 02:02 AM

Man the new ceramic is so sweet. I say go for it

ingoodtime · 7 August 2011, 03:27 AM

I have the SS ceramic GMTIIC and a non ceramic TT SERTI sub. The ceramic GMTIIC is heavier than my sub but still comfortable although less so than the non ceramic piece.

buddy13 · 7 August 2011, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

My 116610 is my favorite watch of ALL time. I know the purists will balk, and to each his own, but I think the pre ceramic Subs are a notch below. Fire!!! :)

I can echo this statement word by word...the 116610 is simply in another league compared to the 16610

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padi56 · 7 August 2011, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjclark32

If you think the upgrades are worth the money go for it. I am content with the 16610, for now.

Have to agree quite a price hike for a slither of ceramic and new type clasp and a bit more lume but whatever floats your boat.

davegct · 7 August 2011, 04:16 AM

I have had both and now just the 16610. I prefer the less bulky look and personally I think the maxi dial dots are too big. But as many have said here you have to have tried both on before you can make a decision with all the facts. Tough choice - but a good problem to have! Good luck! Please let us all know what you decide.

5 August 2011, 05:43 AM	#1
tarmyjay Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: London Posts: 47	Change 16610 Sub for 116610LN??? Hi Guys Just after your thought and opinions really Still a bit of a Rolex novice I am thinking of changing my current 2009 16610 Sub for one of the new models (with the ceramic bezel etc....) Unfortunately, I cant afford to have both What do you think???? Thanks in advance

5 August 2011, 05:51 AM	#2
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	If you think the upgrades are worth the money go for it. I am content with the 16610, for now. __________________

5 August 2011, 05:52 AM	#3
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Welcome to TRF. I think it depends on which version you would rather have and whether you are willing to pay the premium required to obtain a newer watch if you so chose. In my opinion there are pluses and minuses for each version if you ask me, however I don't think it is always necessary to upgrade just to get the latest version. Have you tried on the new 116610? what do you think? __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

5 August 2011, 05:57 AM	#5
speedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: bp, hu, eu Watch: dj 16234, 116610ln Posts: 2,376	i had the chance of deciding and went for the 116610 but there are a lot of guys preferring the older model. i guess you should try on both a decide for yourself. i like the new look which in my opinion follows the tradition but managed to be very modern at the same time, love the lume, the beautiful ceramic bezel, the maxi dial and reckon that the bracelet itself is worth the change. it is the same old sub as always but with a twist and a touch of the modern era. __________________ *16234 jubilee dial, 116610 ln, grand seiko sbgm221g, omega speedmaster mark II, longines legend diver, breguet 3910, nomos club campus 38, swatch sistem51, mares nemo, seiko ripley, g-shock rangeman* instagram: modus_horologicus

5 August 2011, 06:13 AM	#7
smallcandle "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Kansas Watch: 16610, Omega PO Posts: 1,898	Personally, I wouldn't do it. I LOVE my 16610 and would be hard pressed to drink the 'ceramic koolaid'. Go try one on and if she sings to you you'll know what to do... __________________ Things got out of control and I had to stab a clown...

5 August 2011, 06:10 AM	#6
tulsaokusa Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: N/A Location: N/A Watch: 2010 SS/Black SubC Posts: 773	You will not be dissappointed.

5 August 2011, 06:35 AM	#8
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	+1 __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

5 August 2011, 06:41 AM	#9
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	I would make that trade in a heartbeat. I have both (16613 and 116610LV) and the Glidelock clasp alone is worth every penny. I also prefer the maxi dial and the solid link bracelet. Finally, I really like the dimension that the engraved ceramic bezel insert adds to the whole package. The new Sub C is just absolutely fantastic and it is a watch that is difficult for me to fault. __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

5 August 2011, 07:24 AM	#10
robertgrom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Robert Location: USA, California Watch: Sub 116610 Posts: 240	It's hard to compete with the classic look of the 16610. However the new upgrades made to the Sub, make 116610 hands down a better watch.

5 August 2011, 07:40 AM	#11
kareemthedream33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,748	The 116610 is a better watch technically speaking. Many prefer the older one though. All preference. Once you have the new bracelet with glidelock, it's very hard to go back to the old style.

5 August 2011, 07:41 AM	#12
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	I love the new bracelet. I can handle the maxi dial and hands. But, I cannot handle the maxi case with the fat lugs and fat crown guards. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

5 August 2011, 08:01 AM	#13
robertgrom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Robert Location: USA, California Watch: Sub 116610 Posts: 240	I like the maxi dial, better for my eyes. The 116610 is a heavier watch, which could be a disadvantage for some.

5 August 2011, 08:07 AM	#14
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	My 116610 is my favorite watch of ALL time. I know the purists will balk, and to each his own, but I think the pre ceramic Subs are a notch below. Fire!!! :)

5 August 2011, 08:09 AM	#15
robertgrom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Robert Location: USA, California Watch: Sub 116610 Posts: 240	I must be a friend of everyone, I've got the 16610LV.

5 August 2011, 08:17 AM	#18
robertgrom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Robert Location: USA, California Watch: Sub 116610 Posts: 240	True, but not for everyone. You must be a modern James Bond to have one.

5 August 2011, 08:22 AM	#19
ManUtd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,613	The 116610 is a better watch IMO but ultimately it's only you who can determine if the upgrades are worth the £ difference.

5 August 2011, 08:22 AM	#20
dooder202 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: US Watch: DateJust Posts: 1,468	Yes do it. No brainer IMHO.

5 August 2011, 08:23 AM	#21
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Not sure I would do it. I also have the 16610 and a 116610LV, I love them both equally. I just cannot get myself to go back to all ceramic as I just sold a couple. I am loving the pre ceramic models again but to each his own. Perhaps keep your 16610 and save for the 116610LV Just a thought __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

5 August 2011, 08:26 AM	#22
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Tough one. Both great watches. As mentioned, I suggest trying the SubC to see if it smiles back. Only you can make that determination. Good luck!

5 August 2011, 08:32 AM	#23
robertgrom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Robert Location: USA, California Watch: Sub 116610 Posts: 240	In a year or two your eyes will ask for a maxi dial.

7 August 2011, 01:00 AM	#24
rkim11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Baltimore Watch: 16610LV Posts: 311	I love the LV I have...Having said that, went to an AD and held the 116610 for the first time and while I still didn't like the bigger lugs and what it did to the face, the bracelet was fantastic. Didn't try out the glidelock feature but the solid links throughout makes the bracelet way more 'solid.'

7 August 2011, 01:59 AM	#25
gregmoeck "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maui Watch: Patek Posts: 2,032	if you can get over the larger lugs and larger buckle its one hell of an upgrade. I couldnt get over the lugs so I traded it off..

7 August 2011, 02:02 AM	#26
theironchef106 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Watch: Day Date II Posts: 436	Man the new ceramic is so sweet. I say go for it

7 August 2011, 03:27 AM	#27
ingoodtime "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,834	I have the SS ceramic GMTIIC and a non ceramic TT SERTI sub. The ceramic GMTIIC is heavier than my sub but still comfortable although less so than the non ceramic piece. __________________ Lee

7 August 2011, 04:16 AM	#30
davegct 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: Pennsylvania Watch: GMT-Sub-Dj-DD Posts: 338	I have had both and now just the 16610. I prefer the less bulky look and personally I think the maxi dial dots are too big. But as many have said here you have to have tried both on before you can make a decision with all the facts. Tough choice - but a good problem to have! Good luck! Please let us all know what you decide.

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