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Old 20 August 2011, 03:26 AM   #1
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16610 hands too tight!

Hello everyone. This is my first post here. I have been looking everywhere for the answer to my question and came accross this forum. I have a Rolex Submariner 16610 that I bought pre owned recently. Very quickly I noticed that the hands appear to be so tight, that they are pressing the dial downwards! I was shocked when I saw this and am now worried that the watch could be fake. Anyway, when the light shines on the dial in a certain way you can see a circle reflecting on the dial with a diameter of about 2 millimeters. I tried to take a picture but it is too hard to see in a picture. I am hoping someone can tell me if this could be a flaw in my watch and if it can be repaired or if you think my watch could be fake. Thanks everyone.
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Old 20 August 2011, 03:48 AM   #2
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Hi James,

It's perfectly normal, don't worry about it!
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Old 20 August 2011, 03:49 AM   #3
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Hello everyone. This is my first post here. I have been looking everywhere for the answer to my question and came accross this forum. I have a Rolex Submariner 16610 that I bought pre owned recently. Very quickly I noticed that the hands appear to be so tight, that they are pressing the dial downwards! I was shocked when I saw this and am now worried that the watch could be fake. Anyway, when the light shines on the dial in a certain way you can see a circle reflecting on the dial with a diameter of about 2 millimeters. I tried to take a picture but it is too hard to see in a picture. I am hoping someone can tell me if this could be a flaw in my watch and if it can be repaired or if you think my watch could be fake. Thanks everyone.
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Does the watch keep good time and when you pull the crown out do the hands turn normal around the dial .What you can see the centre detention where the hand staff comes though the centre of the dial
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Old 20 August 2011, 04:22 AM   #4
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I know exactly what you are talking about, that 'dimple' is perfectly normal, it's on every sub watch I have ever seen. Relax.
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Old 20 August 2011, 04:39 AM   #5
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Yes normal. Sit back n enjoy the icon!
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Old 20 August 2011, 04:40 AM   #6
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Wow, thanks so much! Im so glad this is a normal thing! This seems like a great place to learn about Rolex and Im sure I will be back with future questions!
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Old 20 August 2011, 05:34 AM   #7
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Welcome in the world of enamel dials! Enamel makes smooth angles around the date window and the hands hole (extreme refinement, isn't it?) it is also extremly durable and shiny... and BLACK, DEEEP BLACK!
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Old 20 August 2011, 05:58 AM   #8
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It happens on my Explorer too and I think it is normal. You can easily see a circle reflecting on a black dial.
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Old 20 August 2011, 06:55 AM   #9
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Dude it is a reflection from the hands onto the glossy dial .... when i first saw it on my first Rolex I freaked .... I did hold back from reporting it to my Rolex Dealer though.

It is perfectly normal ... Enjoy :)
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Old 20 August 2011, 07:07 AM   #10
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Dude it is a reflection from the hands onto the glossy dial .... when i first saw it on my first Rolex I freaked .... I did hold back from reporting it to my Rolex Dealer though.

It is perfectly normal ... Enjoy :)
Dude ..... not a reflection unless we're talking about something else. It's actually an circular indentation made when the metal dial is stamped out from the raw sheet. There's also inward sloping sides around the date window if you have one. Everything perfectly normal.
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Old 20 August 2011, 07:22 AM   #11
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The 'dimple' has always kind of annoyed me...never understood why Rolex can't refine that aspect of their process to provide a 100% perfect cut that doesn't bend upon assembly.

One thing I love about the DSSD is the fact that the base of the hands have a larger diameter and therefore does a much better job of covering up this 'flaw' when compared to Subs.
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Old 20 August 2011, 07:42 AM   #12
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The 'dimple' has always kind of annoyed me...never understood why Rolex can't refine that aspect of their process to provide a 100% perfect cut that doesn't bend upon assembly.

One thing I love about the DSSD is the fact that the base of the hands have a larger diameter and therefore does a much better job of covering up this 'flaw' when compared to Subs.
They can but get ready for a very hefty price increase.
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Old 20 August 2011, 08:16 AM   #13
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The 'dimple' has always kind of annoyed me...never understood why Rolex can't refine that aspect of their process to provide a 100% perfect cut that doesn't bend upon assembly.

One thing I love about the DSSD is the fact that the base of the hands have a larger diameter and therefore does a much better job of covering up this 'flaw' when compared to Subs.
I had the same concern as the OP when I got my Sub. I agree, it seems strange that Rolex has this and I'm surprised it isn't mentioned on the forum more often
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Old 20 August 2011, 08:32 AM   #14
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Maybe that`s the way they wanted it to look in the first place, who is anybody to judge ? what is 100 % perfection ?
Let`s all enjoy our perfectly made 99 % perfect watches, you want 100 % perfection, do it yourself
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Old 20 August 2011, 11:57 AM   #15
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Maybe that`s the way they wanted it to look in the first place, who is anybody to judge ? what is 100 % perfection ?
Let`s all enjoy our perfectly made 99 % perfect watches, you want 100 % perfection, do it yourself
Sorry...totally disagree...I HIGHLY doubt Rolex had a seamless, smooth dial and then went back in and re-engineered the dial to be like this. I think it's basic laziness and years of status quo at its worst. Something as simple as this isn't asking much considering the price point of their watches. My Omega's at a fraction of the price look perfect considering this point.

Sorry, I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and say, "Well...it's good enough..." no reason we, as the customer, can't demand perfection when it comes to the dial appearance...I've got to think anyone that thinks this feature is appropriate probably wouldn't mind picking up a new car from the dealership w/ a major dent on the hood.
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Old 20 August 2011, 01:00 PM   #16
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