TT - Why are they unwanted on the secondary market?

[Jinder]

Why does it have to "mean" anything?!? Why can't people just buy the watch the "love"?
TT look nice...forget about "success" or "confirming richness".

[Jinder]

Originally Posted by brkanand

IMO SS reflects simplicity with total satisfaction. TT reflects a desire to move forward, a confused mind and an awareness of not having reached there. YG/WG confirms you are rich enough to buy an expensive watch, with an erroneous feeling of being successful but wanting more attention anyways!

Why does it have to "mean" anything?!? Why can't people just buy the watch they "love"?
TT look nice...forget about "success" or "confirming richness".
Confused mind?!? Dude really that's just rubbish talk...really!

My neighbor installed a $57,000 pool last year. He 'could' have bought a gold Rolex...would that confirm he is rich?? Because he isn't. It's all about personal choice my man!
You 'think' too much

[Galaxy]

Funny but I always thought of SS as entry level Rolex for people who wanted the prestige without the price of TT or SG!

[Andelain]

I wish TT was even more unwanted, so I could get them cheaper. I prefer the TT over any other configuration, so that's what I buy.

[Timber Loftis]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

Moreover, a TT datejust is, from my experience, what every non-WIS person (or more likely, their wife) ends up with when they finally have enough money to waddle into an AD and say "Hey, it's about time I bought myself/my husband a Rolex."

Without fail, if I talk to someone I meet professionally who has a DJ, most especially a TT DJ, they have no clue about anything at all related to their watch, other than it was the expensive Rolex they finally treated themselves to.

I'm quoting myself rather than the couple of folks who took beef with what I said, so I can clarify, because I think it is needed.

In a prior (non-quoted) part of my post I expressed that, to me, right now, they don't suit me to wear. I think a many of the TT's are gorgeous -- I have complimented one of my dentists on his TT Sub and one of my partners on his TT DJ. But, for me, don't like them and haven't for about 10 yrs because I quit yellow gold. Although -- I flirted with several Bluesies over the last year.

But, about this quote... I would not dare say that every TT or DJ or TT DJ wearer is non-WIS. Obviously, if you're here, you've been bitten by the bug.
Rather, what I'm saying is that among the non-WIS crowd, it seems they end up wearing TT DJ's -- in *my* personal/professional experience.

The partner I work with is an example. His wife got him his watch as a gift -- and between her preference and what the sales person at the AD directed her to -- she ended up with a TT DJ oyster stick-dial. Among the folks I meet who don't know much about their watch and just picked from what was in the case, or were given it as a gift, TT DJ's seem to be the most common pick. And the particular partner I know, he's clueless until I tell him that a guy sitting across from us at a meeting had on his exact model reference, just with a different band, or dial, or bezel. He doesn't "get into" the WIS stuff.

So, I have found over time that someone sporting a TT is someone who is quite hit-or-miss when it comes to trying to strike up any conversation about their piece. Because many of them just don't get into the watches like some of us do.

That's all. It was a tangential statement, so I probably shouldn't have bothered digressing on the topic. Regardless, I hope I've clarified myself, and I hope anyone who took offense that I was either (a) dissing their always-beautiful time pieces or (b) their appreciation thereof, I offer apologies.

/bye

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

First, as a child of the 80's, I have avoided yellow gold of any sort for over a decade. It makes me feel like I'm either out of place or playing a supporting role in an Adam Sandler throwback movie.

Moreover, a TT datejust is, from my experience, what every non-WIS person (or more likely, their wife) ends up with when they finally have enough money to waddle into an AD and say "Hey, it's about time I bought myself/my husband a Rolex."

Without fail, if I talk to someone I meet professionally who has a DJ, most especially a TT DJ, they have no clue about anything at all related to their watch, other than it was the expensive Rolex they finally treated themselves to.

On the other hand, if I see a guy with a Coke GMT or an Expy II, you can usually expect some interesting conversation. These guys tend to have learned more and shopped more for their watch, and tend to be quite frankly more discerning owners. They got the watch that wasn't the obvious choice pushed on them by an AD or bought for them by their wives.

My 2c.

And all that being said, no one in their right mind can argue that a Bluesy Sub (the original, not the smurfmariners) isn't gorgeous.

Well child of the 80s-as an owner of several TTs, at no time did I "waddle" in to get my first rolex when I could "finally afford it". I have been interested in fine watches all my life and consider myself to be fairly well versed in them!

[Timber Loftis]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Well child of the 80s...

I hope you'll check my follow-up post, right above yours.

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by never2late

Just goes to show, you have to watch what you say because people will remember and judge you accordingly. Its one thing to express an opinion about your personal feelings and quite another to express an opinion that insults the personal feelings others might hold. Personally, I'm not a fan of an all gold watch . . . but I love the contrast between the stainless and gold on a TT watch. It has nothing to do with what I can or can't afford.

I agree, these were my first few posts, I thought I was being a bit clever, and I went over the top. I certainly didn't mean offend anyones watches, and apoligized.

People are still quoteing me though.

[davestan]

The TT Submariner (particularly the blue face) and the TT GMTIIC are brilliant looking watches. I'd say these two models are quite desirable on the secondary market. In fact generally the TT look has become iconic to the Rolex brand image.

[randb]

My wife loves the blue TT sub. I think there maybe demand from the ladies in the future.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

The only TT I have any interest in is the Root Beer. I think it works with the brown dial but not black, white or blue...

I think TTs second hand values may be hurt by the fact that, as a generalisation, it tends to be worn more by non WIS as a ostentatious show of wealth...

[Andad]

Originally Posted by jizeal

TT is for grandfathers

[Rolex Junky]

Originally Posted by brkanand

IMO SS reflects simplicity with total satisfaction. TT reflects a desire to move forward, a confused mind and an awareness of not having reached there. YG/WG confirms you are rich enough to buy an expensive watch, with an erroneous feeling of being successful but wanting more attention anyways!

IMO people are entitled to buy whatever appeals to them. Spare us your spychobabble bull

[Andad]

Hmmm...I do have 12 grandchildren.

[BeauneCrusher]

2 years ago I bought a TT rose gold datejust with a jubilee bracelet. The dealer's shop was next to my favorite Dim Sum restaurant, and every time I had my Chinese fix, I went next door to see the watches. It kept calling, and after a few months, I bought it, and am totally happy with it.

That being said, this watch is close to my bling limit. It is totally subjective what those limits are; a 40 mm would exceed mine.

[buddy13]

I'd like a tt black subC but I figure it would not get as much wear as my ss models since it would look funny at work and with casual wear.I still think it looks beautiful though and if funds allowed I would definitely love one for smarter occasions

[sherwin]

Alot of people do tend to associate the TT jubilee datejust with rolex. it has become somewhat of a symbol.

[hunz]

isn't TT gold watches for old people and ali G?

[Jinder]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Hmmm...I do have 12 grandchildren.

You got a GTR? How is it? I'm thinking of getting one as well, if I can find one in good shape second hand.

[Poohsan]

Honestly my skin tone clashes with gold. So solid gold and TT are out for me. SS works better. Can I afford solid gold yes but does it look good on me no. I guess there are others that have the same problems.

-AM

[Galaxy]

I love my TT and purchased it (here in Canada where wages are lower than US, we pay much higher prices for everything than in the States, and hugh taxes that Americans are not subjected to), not because I could not afford the all gold, but because I love the contrast between the steel and rose gold.

I also understand that the stretching problem is much less a problem with the Oyster band than with the jubilee. The problem has also been addressed with the recent addition of stronger bands with solid gold.

Many high end watches like Glashutte, A. Lange and Sohne and Patek Philippe have leather bands I think in part to avoid the "over the top" look that is sometimes apparent in an all gold watch

!

[dreamwatch]

Originally Posted by Mr. K

I like this statement.

But hey I also liked the 80s...

[Oyster1982]

Originally Posted by The Joker

I agree, these were my first few posts, I thought I was being a bit clever, and I went over the top. I certainly didn't mean offend anyones watches, and apoligized.

People are still quoteing me though.

Don't worry we all say things and they dont come out the same way we thought about them. I was a little put off by your comments however I knew you didn't mean anything hurtful by them. Anyways the 80's was a great time for movies, music, and decadence. I love that decade and wish I was old enough to have experienced it as an adult. I have friends who have made millions during the 80's and still talk about how great that decade was.

[mjrennie]

Originally Posted by The Joker

TT is a dated 80's look, and you are just advertising the fact that you can't afford the full gold version.
And while I'm at it I think you can only pull off a full gold watch with gold bracelet if you are Tony Soprano or Elle Macpherson.

A gold watch with leather strap is hot though, not too over the top.

Stick with SS, it rules!

I could not do a full YG Sub as it is a bit over-the-top, but I love gold. So a TT does the job. SS is very cool, but gold is...gold.

[never2late]

Originally Posted by hunz

isn't TT gold watches for old people and ali G?

No they isn't.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Rolex Junky

IMO people are entitled to buy whatever appeals to them. Spare us your spychobabble bull

ITA complete 'babble' indeed!

Absolutely love the TT datejust in your avatar by the way!

Is it the rose gold and steel with the concentric dial-beautiful!!!

[Newrolexbuyer]

I'm 27 and purchased a 116613 a few weeks back and im loving it! It's my everyday watch since I don't wear my DDII Ever Rose everyday...yes I can afford a solid gold watch hehe....i think the TT is great and if you buy from one of the Trusted sellers here on the forum you should get a good deal. For me the TT combo give me the ability to wear the watch with a tee shirt and throw on a button down and look classy. It's more versatile to me than SS. To each their own

[wantonebad]

I think the TT oyster bracelet is uniquely Rolex, it's a classic and sharp. I think there will be a strong vintage market for these pieces in a decade or two now that super-cases and pregnant lugs are taking over.

Does my blue-sub look like an 80's throw back? perhaps but the 80's weren't all bad either and my 16613 ain't going nowhere!! LOL

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by brkanand

TT reflects a desire to move forward, a confused mind and an awareness of not having reached there. YG/WG confirms you are rich enough to buy an expensive watch, with an erroneous feeling of being successful but wanting more attention anyways!

The same could be said about anyone who buys a watch for more than a few hundred dollars, i.e. all Rolex owners.

[lobsta]

It is a personal preference, solution is multiple watches for different occasions.