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weng · 27 August 2011, 01:32 AM

Got a pre-owned GMT2C (M series) a few months ago and noticed that the lugs had been buffed after comparing it to most, if not all the ceramic models posted here.

I am not happy at the way it looked. The lugs brushed finish is not as shiny as the brushed bracelet probably due to the diagonal pattern of the haspe/grain. See photo below showing the reflected light is not the same on the bracelet.

Is this a work of an RSC? I have no idea why the previous owner had this buffed. Usually this part of the watch gets the least scratches and IMO the scratch could have looked better (wild guess) than what it looks now.

I want to make it look like the original "vertical" haspe/grain to match the brushed bracelet. Can a scotch brite do the trick? Does it need a trip to RSC?

InVision · 27 August 2011, 01:40 AM

Definitely been polished hard. Lugs should look like these on my 11613, yours look rounded off. The key question, did a RSC do it? My guess is no, but is only a guess.

mboverst · 27 August 2011, 01:53 AM

Definitely not from RSC. Looks like the previous owner had it over buffed by a local hack

weng · 27 August 2011, 01:55 AM

Yup, I think the edge had been buffed hard. But a faint vertical grain is still visible just below the bezel so the flat part may not have been buffed hard. It looks like a work of an amateur as the grain is not consistent all the way on each lug.

Can a watchmaker bring it back to original?

Dr.Godzilla · 27 August 2011, 01:55 AM

I do not think it was done by RSC. Lugs should be brushed in straight (up-down) direction and not circular.

Submarino · 27 August 2011, 01:58 AM

Terrible polishing job!! Sorry mate!

Puffy · 27 August 2011, 02:02 AM

that's awful. i'd give it to Rolex so they can rectify the issue caused by the terrorist who did this.

my pet HATE is bad refinishing!!

I feel your pain mate

best of luck

jeffrs82 · 27 August 2011, 02:02 AM

Sorry to see those, definitely not the work of Makati RSC, I see your bracelet, you're in cebu? im from cebu but living in NYC now, Imperial is nice...! Enjoy Cebu :)

weng · 27 August 2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by si_jeff

Sorry to see those, definitely not the work of Makati RSC, I see your bracelet, you're in cebu? im from cebu but living in NYC now, Imperial is nice...! Enjoy Cebu :)

bought the watch from this forum so the buffing was done in USA.

musta bai :)

xjeeunitx · 27 August 2011, 02:24 AM

What an asshole. I hope it works out for you! I think the RSC charges roughly $100 for a polish job. Better yet, why don't you wait until you turn it in for a complete overhaul?

RJC · 27 August 2011, 02:30 AM

Ouch!!!

That's pretty far from ok

weng · 27 August 2011, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

What an asshole. I hope it works out for you! I think the RSC charges roughly $100 for a polish job. Better yet, why don't you wait until you turn it in for a complete overhaul?

Thanks guys for all the inputs.

It's an M series so it's about time to send it for overhaul. It also had few issues, like it losses 6 sec/day and the hands lume is weaker than the marker.

Is the weak hand lume common to the GMT2C? I found a photo from another site showing the same issue but not as bad as mine.

L00ker · 27 August 2011, 03:40 AM

Yikes... RSC can correct that.

Kanger · 27 August 2011, 04:36 AM

That is terrible. Either RSC or an extremely skilled watchmaker like Rikki or Bob Ridley can correct that.

Puffy · 27 August 2011, 04:39 AM

RSC won do in-between polish jobs. shame you're not in the UK as I know a Rolex watchmaker who could rectify the issue in a day or two and at a very reasonable cost

Z-Sub · 27 August 2011, 05:44 AM

yes a terrible polishing job. for professionals, these are easier than the older 16710 with more defined edges. looks like the lugs are thinned as well.

but RSC anywhere in the world will restore to original luster for you.

RolexYM · 27 August 2011, 05:50 AM

Yeah, horrible!! This does not bold well for buying from TRF members!

learningtofly · 27 August 2011, 06:06 AM

Looks suspiciously like a DIY job to me - perhaps to get rid of some scuffs for the sale? I can't see any professional; being that bad!

mboverst · 27 August 2011, 06:20 AM

The lume issue scares me more than the polish job...did this piece come with matching warranty card with the serial numbers?

Z-Sub · 27 August 2011, 07:03 AM

lume on hands are usually less bright than the markers as the amount or thickness of the lume on hands are thinner

mrbill2mrbill2 · 27 August 2011, 07:27 AM

Looks like the lug brushing was done by someone who didn't know the maxi case watches are brushed up and down while the older case (16610) are brushed on an angle.

Payesrob · 27 August 2011, 07:33 AM

yes, its a bad job, unless you like the uniqueness of it..Maybe the guy wanted to give it his own unique look..

Melanotaenia · 27 August 2011, 07:34 AM

if the lugs are rounded off it is going to be a little tougher to make them look like they did when the lugs were brand new....it looks like there was a considerable rounding of the edges on the case lugs on this watch. That sucks.

landroverking · 27 August 2011, 07:39 AM

Time to break out a greenie. V

dmacintyre · 27 August 2011, 07:40 AM

Right lug looks much worse. I'm guessing it was badly nicked / scraped and they polished it down past the depth of the nick. It looks thinner than the left.

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Originally Posted by weng

Tools · 27 August 2011, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weng

Got a pre-owned GMT2C (M series) a few months ago and noticed that the lugs had been buffed after comparing it to most, if not all the ceramic models posted here.
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I want to make it look like the original "vertical" haspe/grain to match the brushed bracelet. Can a scotch brite do the trick? Does it need a trip to RSC?

Somebody really did a bad job.. it happens... Definitely not an RSC job as the angles and grain are wrong..

If you are talented you can make it look better.. perhaps one of the fiber brush pencils made for touching up can make the lugs look better. You could also go to an AD with a watchmaker on staff and discuss refinishing the case.. he/she will have proper tools and know the grain and direction necessary..

weng · 27 August 2011, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mboverst

The lume issue scares me more than the polish job...did this piece come with matching warranty card with the serial numbers?

Yes, the watch and warranty card serial matched. The warranty card is unnamed and undated.

weng · 27 August 2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dmacintyre

Right lug looks much worse. I'm guessing it was badly nicked / scraped and they polished it down past the depth of the nick. It looks thinner than the left.

Both the lugs have the same width. It could be due to the rounded edges or angle the photo was taken.

Speed · 27 August 2011, 11:37 AM

Would you consider re-casing?

pawnshopkiller · 27 August 2011, 11:42 AM

From my Humble experience it looks as if someone did this without removing the bezel. The only way to make it look right without removing the bezel is to do the grain at an angle. Remove the bezel and brush the lugs up and down. No bid deal.

27 August 2011, 01:32 AM	#1
weng "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Philippines Watch: amacallit! Posts: 37	Buffed Lugs Got a pre-owned GMT2C (M series) a few months ago and noticed that the lugs had been buffed after comparing it to most, if not all the ceramic models posted here. I am not happy at the way it looked. The lugs brushed finish is not as shiny as the brushed bracelet probably due to the diagonal pattern of the haspe/grain. See photo below showing the reflected light is not the same on the bracelet. Is this a work of an RSC? I have no idea why the previous owner had this buffed. Usually this part of the watch gets the least scratches and IMO the scratch could have looked better (wild guess) than what it looks now. I want to make it look like the original "vertical" haspe/grain to match the brushed bracelet. Can a scotch brite do the trick? Does it need a trip to RSC?

27 August 2011, 01:58 AM	#6
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	Terrible polishing job!! Sorry mate! __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

27 August 2011, 02:02 AM	#7
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	that's awful. i'd give it to Rolex so they can rectify the issue caused by the terrorist who did this. my pet HATE is bad refinishing!! I feel your pain mate best of luck __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

27 August 2011, 02:30 AM	#11
RJC "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cheshire, UK Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,125	Ouch!!! That's pretty far from ok __________________ Current - DSJC 136660 - Sea-Dweller 126600

27 August 2011, 04:39 AM	#15
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	RSC won do in-between polish jobs. shame you're not in the UK as I know a Rolex watchmaker who could rectify the issue in a day or two and at a very reasonable cost __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

27 August 2011, 01:40 AM	#2
InVision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Destin, FL USA Watch: Outerspace DayDate Posts: 2,662	Definitely been polished hard. Lugs should look like these on my 11613, yours look rounded off. The key question, did a RSC do it? My guess is no, but is only a guess.

27 August 2011, 01:53 AM	#3
mboverst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Dallas Posts: 1,683	Definitely not from RSC. Looks like the previous owner had it over buffed by a local hack

27 August 2011, 01:55 AM	#4
weng "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Philippines Watch: amacallit! Posts: 37	Yup, I think the edge had been buffed hard. But a faint vertical grain is still visible just below the bezel so the flat part may not have been buffed hard. It looks like a work of an amateur as the grain is not consistent all the way on each lug. Can a watchmaker bring it back to original?

27 August 2011, 01:55 AM	#5
Dr.Godzilla "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 68	I do not think it was done by RSC. Lugs should be brushed in straight (up-down) direction and not circular.

27 August 2011, 02:02 AM	#8
jeffrs82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Jeffrey Location: NYC Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 31	Sorry to see those, definitely not the work of Makati RSC, I see your bracelet, you're in cebu? im from cebu but living in NYC now, Imperial is nice...! Enjoy Cebu :)

27 August 2011, 02:24 AM	#10
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,533	What an asshole. I hope it works out for you! I think the RSC charges roughly $100 for a polish job. Better yet, why don't you wait until you turn it in for a complete overhaul?

27 August 2011, 03:40 AM	#13
L00ker Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Managua Posts: 56	Yikes... RSC can correct that.

27 August 2011, 04:36 AM	#14
Kanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: North Carolina Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 5,524	That is terrible. Either RSC or an extremely skilled watchmaker like Rikki or Bob Ridley can correct that.

27 August 2011, 05:44 AM	#16
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	yes a terrible polishing job. for professionals, these are easier than the older 16710 with more defined edges. looks like the lugs are thinned as well. but RSC anywhere in the world will restore to original luster for you. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

27 August 2011, 05:50 AM	#17
RolexYM Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: TX Watch: TOG + Yachmaster Posts: 202	Yeah, horrible!! This does not bold well for buying from TRF members!

27 August 2011, 06:06 AM	#18
learningtofly 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Tony Location: London, England Watch: Hmmm... Posts: 2,483	Looks suspiciously like a DIY job to me - perhaps to get rid of some scuffs for the sale? I can't see any professional; being that bad! __________________ Tony

27 August 2011, 06:20 AM	#19
mboverst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Dallas Posts: 1,683	The lume issue scares me more than the polish job...did this piece come with matching warranty card with the serial numbers?

27 August 2011, 07:03 AM	#20
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	lume on hands are usually less bright than the markers as the amount or thickness of the lume on hands are thinner __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

27 August 2011, 07:27 AM	#21
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Looks like the lug brushing was done by someone who didn't know the maxi case watches are brushed up and down while the older case (16610) are brushed on an angle. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

27 August 2011, 07:33 AM	#22
Payesrob Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California Watch: Submariner 116610 Posts: 64	yes, its a bad job, unless you like the uniqueness of it..Maybe the guy wanted to give it his own unique look..

27 August 2011, 07:34 AM	#23
Melanotaenia "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: NYC Watch: Explorers and Subs Posts: 620	if the lugs are rounded off it is going to be a little tougher to make them look like they did when the lugs were brand new....it looks like there was a considerable rounding of the edges on the case lugs on this watch. That sucks.

27 August 2011, 07:39 AM	#24
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Time to break out a greenie. V

27 August 2011, 11:37 AM	#29
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Would you consider re-casing?

27 August 2011, 11:42 AM	#30
pawnshopkiller Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Roscoe Location: florida Watch: 16618 Posts: 646	From my Humble experience it looks as if someone did this without removing the bezel. The only way to make it look right without removing the bezel is to do the grain at an angle. Remove the bezel and brush the lugs up and down. No bid deal.

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