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herbalt · 12 October 2011, 08:02 AM

There are some replicas, especially the 16610 sub date that are extremely close to the look of the real thing. Most of them though have some big tells, and if you read about the state of the replicas you'll be aware of them. It doesn't bother me if people want to wear a fake Rolex, because they're clearing doing it to be perceived as either having wealth or good taste and not for the craftsmanship, history, and lore of the actual thing. I don't care if people think my Sub C is fake either, since I don't wear it fo anyone but me. I live in NYC and work in midtown among bankers and other wealthy business people. I see lots of real Rolexes and lots of fakes.

Cuts33 · 12 October 2011, 08:10 AM

The guy working the counter at the gas station the other day was wearing a fake Sub. How did I know it was fake? Easy, he was working the counter at the gas station.

People talk about the crown guards being off, the rehaut being off, etc. - nobody ever mentions the fact that the guy wearing it had on $10 shoes, $5 jeans and a $2 t-shirt. More of a dead give away IMO.

ArcticMoose · 12 October 2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuts33

People talk about the crown guards being off, the rehaut being off, etc. - nobody ever mentions the fact that the guy wearing it had on $10 shoes, $5 jeans and a $2 t-shirt. More of a dead give away IMO.

I'd tread very carefully if I were you. That could just as well have been me, and I assure you my watch is genuine. Granted, I do own a half-decent pair of shoes, but I'm definitely not always wearing them.

Tudor66 · 12 October 2011, 08:19 AM

My watch obsession is for Rolex stainless steel GMTII's, polar expII's, subs.

Lately I am seeing beauty in day dates, air kings, date just--- dam, I'm hooked...! I am giving up my car hobby to fund a few Rolex purchases.

I need a Monday- Friday work rolex for my long sleeve conservative days.
I need a weekend Rolex for outdoor activity..
I need an evening out on the town Rolex...

ArcticMoose · 12 October 2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 316lad

I saved all my life for my Sub no date.

If that's a "win" or not would depend on how old you are, I would think.

Megalobyte · 12 October 2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gmh1013

I have EVERYBODY beat....my income is zero!!!

I doubt it, ever hear of debt? :)

316lad · 12 October 2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gmh1013

I have EVERYBODY beat....my income is zero!!!

Nope you don't.

I owe EVERYBODY money.

Income? That's for the little people.

masterserg · 12 October 2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by (DMB)

T They don't have a wife telling them that they can't blow a whole paycheck on a watch. (ahhh, the good old days). So they get that Rolex. Hell, at least they don't have to smuggle it in under the cover of darkness like so many of us watch nerds on these forums.

The good old days indeed!! Who didn't open a Fedex box in the bathroom performed a stealth walk to the bedroom to put away in the drawer quickly ...

Bobble · 12 October 2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by masterserg

The good old days indeed!! Who didn't open a Fedex box in the bathroom performed a stealth walk to the bedroom to put away in the drawer quickly ...

Ahh, that's how I've got to do it :cheers

My problem is my wife wears my Omega Seamaster and I the GMTIIc, if I bought another she would know straight away

got no chance of another

rossi46 · 12 October 2011, 01:48 PM

At least two subway rides of ~30mins each per day. Yeah, now that I own a Rolex I'm constantly on the look out for others.

It being NYC, I tend to see a few here and there.

The Godzilla · 12 October 2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by masterserg

The good old days indeed!! Who didn't open a Fedex box in the bathroom performed a stealth walk to the bedroom to put away in the drawer quickly ...

Rani Drama · 12 October 2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vintage69

I learned when I was young, that less money you made, the better quality you should buy.

My dad ingrained in me the saying "You're too poor to be cheap" always buy quality over quantity and always buy only what you really want and don't settle for something less. Buying something twice always costs much more than buying what you really wanted in the first place. This lesson made me always ask myself 3 questions whenever i was going to buy something.

1. Do I really want it?
2. Do i really need it?
3. Can i afford it?

In the end i didn't really need as much as i always thought i wanted, in turn i am totally debt free and now can afford these luxuries because now the 3rd question is much more frequently answered as yes. An example was i purchased a new car a couple years ago. Had a deposit on a BMW 550i and was pretty much set on it. I asked myself do I want it? and said yes, when it came to do i need it? i was like not really, can i afford it? it was a bit of a stretch at the time so i took my deposit back and bought a fully loaded Toyota Prius focused on my finances a bit better and this august was looking into buying an Aston Martin which I have always dreamed about owning. The BMW was nice but it wasn't what i REALLY wanted instead focused on just getting what i NEEDED to get by and will eventually save up for what i REALLY want.

If someone REALLY wants a Rolex i'm sure they will one day work on how to get it and find a way to afford it.

About how everyone wears rolexes. It's true lots of fakes around. I've been on several flights this year almost approaching 20 by the end of next month and many times i would sit on the plane and notice someone near me wearing a rolex. I would comment and say nice watch and they would actually tell me that they are fake. They would let me look at it and i could see the differences from mine. At least if someone admits to it and doesn't act like it's real it's less offensive. (well to me at least)

Rani Drama · 12 October 2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuts33

The guy working the counter at the gas station the other day was wearing a fake Sub. How did I know it was fake? Easy, he was working the counter at the gas station.

People talk about the crown guards being off, the rehaut being off, etc. - nobody ever mentions the fact that the guy wearing it had on $10 shoes, $5 jeans and a $2 t-shirt. More of a dead give away IMO.

You never know it could have been the owner of the gas station. I knew a guy who worked the counter in just whatever clothes he could find. He didn't care because he wasn't there to impress anybody with his clothes. His watch was a tool and he wouldn't leave home without it. The guy owns 4 gas stations.

Runnin' Rebel · 12 October 2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuts33

The guy working the counter at the gas station the other day was wearing a fake Sub. How did I know it was fake? Easy, he was working the counter at the gas station.

People talk about the crown guards being off, the rehaut being off, etc. - nobody ever mentions the fact that the guy wearing it had on $10 shoes, $5 jeans and a $2 t-shirt. More of a dead give away IMO.

That was me to a T yesterday, except I was pumping my own gas

chevycorvette · 12 October 2011, 02:32 PM

it is a mass produce item. sure u will notice rolex everywhere.

u see a lot of people wearing rolex, and u do not like it. it is totally ok.

99.999% male will look for a female. hopefully u are not the 0.0001%

by the way. i truly respect bolt+bolt or nut+nut combination. everybody has their choice.

MY-WATCH · 12 October 2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by triplec

correct there are tons of good fakes out there.

x2

Cuts33 · 12 October 2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rani Drama

You never know it could have been the owner of the gas station. I knew a guy who worked the counter in just whatever clothes he could find. He didn't care because he wasn't there to impress anybody with his clothes. His watch was a tool and he wouldn't leave home without it. The guy owns 4 gas stations.

Didn't mean any offense by it. Was said more in jest than anything else.

And I failed to mention the guy looked about 19 yrs old tops so pretty sure it wasn't the owner.

dysondiver · 12 October 2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gwozhog

I have a Rolex and Im so poor that when I go into KFC I lick other peoples fingers.

better that than nibbling on their thighs i say.

dysondiver · 12 October 2011, 09:04 PM

you can buy a genuine casio for the price of a fake rolex ,,, guess thats a different discussion. fake / genuine.

Rock · 12 October 2011, 09:55 PM

I was browsing the 'For Sale' section earlier today and it struck me that there are some really modestly priced Rolex watches for sale, that are affordable by any working bloke who really wants one. It hit me that a $7K watch is no big deal when there are many that are $20K plus. For me, the price point that really separates the wealthy from the rest is when the watch costs more than a new family car.

Like To Watch · 13 October 2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Those 850,000+ watches made a year gotta go somewhere!

Keeperoftime · 13 October 2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan

Don't forget the over 2 million/year (I was told) Rolex replicas out in the wild as well.
I had dinner at a local restaurant the other day and ALL the waitors were sporting fake PAMs
Just today a photographer was wearing a fake EXPII

Very true. Lots of look alikes as well etc.

Timber Loftis · 13 October 2011, 12:22 AM

Checkout guy at Whole Foods the other day had on a SS Daytona...

... with a racing flag engraved on the back.

Guy sitting across from me on the bus had on a DJ... that ticked.

But, yeah, you can spot a lot of them, real or fake. I was at a BD party for one of my kids' classmates this weekend and the father had on a Polar Expy2. Our discussion of it was brief -- once I learned his mum got it for him as a graduation present I just complimented her taste and let any of the wis-talk go.

fespo276 · 13 October 2011, 01:18 AM

The bottom line is that they just are not so expensive or exclusive that a so-called average person cannot afford them. If that gas station kid was driving a $5000 car, most people would say, "sure, makes sense." However, these people would not feel the same if he had on a $5000 used Sub. Why not, 5 grand is 5 grand. Maybe the kid likes Rolex's more than all of us combined and chose to spend a larger portion of his income on one. Maybe he works at a gas station because he wants to, and has a million bucks in the bank. In my field, I work with alot of people who look and act destitute. You would be shocked at how many have bigger bank accounts that their "upper-middle class" neighbors.

Mickey® · 13 October 2011, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

I'd tread very carefully if I were you. That could just as well have been me, and I assure you my watch is genuine. Granted, I do own a half-decent pair of shoes, but I'm definitely not always wearing them.

AMEN....I dress "well" for work with an occasional suit for meetings...On weekends you would SWEAR I was homeless but I got a Rolex on!

dnagwhogas · 13 October 2011, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuts33

People talk about the crown guards being off, the rehaut being off, etc. - nobody ever mentions the fact that the guy wearing it had on $10 shoes, $5 jeans and a $2 t-shirt. More of a dead give away IMO.

Not really, I know your $ amount is exaggerated but I know what you mean. I'm not a big fan of expensive clothing but I can tell you for sure that my Rolex watches are real. It's a cliché, but never judge a book by it's cover I guess....

azguy · 13 October 2011, 02:55 AM

I think the moral of this thread is that there are tons of fakes out there.

I was in my barber shop the other day and I had my Breitling on. The guy cutting my hair commented on it and said he knows a guy that comes in all the time with Breitling and Rolex fakes and will spend a few hours and sell 6 or 8 watches to their customers in a few hours. $250-400 a each.

He'll buy lunch for the barbers so they don't tell the boss, who is never there.

JRWoOo · 13 October 2011, 04:08 AM

If an individual wishes to spend their hard earned dollars on a fake that will last only a few years I say let them have the misfortune of having a watch that is inferior in every way... My only concern is getting through grad school so I can one day post some handsome wrist shots on this forum and enjoy the fruits of my labor for years to come :)

jizeal · 13 October 2011, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rani Drama

You never know it could have been the owner of the gas station. I knew a guy who worked the counter in just whatever clothes he could find. He didn't care because he wasn't there to impress anybody with his clothes. His watch was a tool and he wouldn't leave home without it. The guy owns 4 gas stations.

i know some people in the same situation. so i wouldn't be quick to judge his watch being fake.

lou430 · 13 October 2011, 05:16 AM

Rolex started as an everyday reliable watch and turning to a luxury item. I wear my sub lv everyday and love it.

12 October 2011, 08:19 AM	#34
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	My obsession My watch obsession is for Rolex stainless steel GMTII's, polar expII's, subs. Lately I am seeing beauty in day dates, air kings, date just--- dam, I'm hooked...! I am giving up my car hobby to fund a few Rolex purchases. I need a Monday- Friday work rolex for my long sleeve conservative days. I need a weekend Rolex for outdoor activity.. I need an evening out on the town Rolex... __________________ -NAWCC Member

12 October 2011, 01:48 PM	#40
rossi46 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: CT, by a lake Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,544	At least two subway rides of ~30mins each per day. Yeah, now that I own a Rolex I'm constantly on the look out for others. It being NYC, I tend to see a few here and there. __________________ A watch is about the entire package, not just its appearance. Any large watch company not making its own movement is not making a watch at all; they’re just playing dress-up. --The Watch Snob

12 October 2011, 09:55 PM	#50
Rock 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rocky Location: Australia Watch: Grail:Bluesy Posts: 17,850	I was browsing the 'For Sale' section earlier today and it struck me that there are some really modestly priced Rolex watches for sale, that are affordable by any working bloke who really wants one. It hit me that a $7K watch is no big deal when there are many that are $20K plus. For me, the price point that really separates the wealthy from the rest is when the watch costs more than a new family car. __________________ Cellini 4112. Sub 14060M. DJ 16233. Rotherhams 1847 Pocket-watch. Foundation Member of 'Horologists Anonymous' "Hi, I'm Rocky, and I'm a Horologist..."

12 October 2011, 08:02 AM	#31
herbalt "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 476	There are some replicas, especially the 16610 sub date that are extremely close to the look of the real thing. Most of them though have some big tells, and if you read about the state of the replicas you'll be aware of them. It doesn't bother me if people want to wear a fake Rolex, because they're clearing doing it to be perceived as either having wealth or good taste and not for the craftsmanship, history, and lore of the actual thing. I don't care if people think my Sub C is fake either, since I don't wear it fo anyone but me. I live in NYC and work in midtown among bankers and other wealthy business people. I see lots of real Rolexes and lots of fakes.

12 October 2011, 08:10 AM	#32
Cuts33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 436	The guy working the counter at the gas station the other day was wearing a fake Sub. How did I know it was fake? Easy, he was working the counter at the gas station. People talk about the crown guards being off, the rehaut being off, etc. - nobody ever mentions the fact that the guy wearing it had on $10 shoes, $5 jeans and a $2 t-shirt. More of a dead give away IMO.

12 October 2011, 02:32 PM	#45
chevycorvette "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: willie Location: pie hole Watch: still looking Posts: 924	it is a mass produce item. sure u will notice rolex everywhere. u see a lot of people wearing rolex, and u do not like it. it is totally ok. 99.999% male will look for a female. hopefully u are not the 0.0001% by the way. i truly respect bolt+bolt or nut+nut combination. everybody has their choice.

12 October 2011, 09:04 PM	#49
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	you can buy a genuine casio for the price of a fake rolex ,,, guess thats a different discussion. fake / genuine.

13 October 2011, 12:22 AM	#53
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	Checkout guy at Whole Foods the other day had on a SS Daytona... ... with a racing flag engraved on the back. Guy sitting across from me on the bus had on a DJ... that ticked. But, yeah, you can spot a lot of them, real or fake. I was at a BD party for one of my kids' classmates this weekend and the father had on a Polar Expy2. Our discussion of it was brief -- once I learned his mum got it for him as a graduation present I just complimented her taste and let any of the wis-talk go.

13 October 2011, 01:18 AM	#54
fespo276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: CT Watch: 116610LN Posts: 160	The bottom line is that they just are not so expensive or exclusive that a so-called average person cannot afford them. If that gas station kid was driving a $5000 car, most people would say, "sure, makes sense." However, these people would not feel the same if he had on a $5000 used Sub. Why not, 5 grand is 5 grand. Maybe the kid likes Rolex's more than all of us combined and chose to spend a larger portion of his income on one. Maybe he works at a gas station because he wants to, and has a million bucks in the bank. In my field, I work with alot of people who look and act destitute. You would be shocked at how many have bigger bank accounts that their "upper-middle class" neighbors.

13 October 2011, 02:55 AM	#57
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	I think the moral of this thread is that there are tons of fakes out there. I was in my barber shop the other day and I had my Breitling on. The guy cutting my hair commented on it and said he knows a guy that comes in all the time with Breitling and Rolex fakes and will spend a few hours and sell 6 or 8 watches to their customers in a few hours. $250-400 a each. He'll buy lunch for the barbers so they don't tell the boss, who is never there.

13 October 2011, 04:08 AM	#58
JRWoOo Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sierra Navada CA. Posts: 114	If an individual wishes to spend their hard earned dollars on a fake that will last only a few years I say let them have the misfortune of having a watch that is inferior in every way... My only concern is getting through grad school so I can one day post some handsome wrist shots on this forum and enjoy the fruits of my labor for years to come :)

13 October 2011, 05:16 AM	#60
lou430 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New York Watch: Rolex sub Posts: 12	Rolex started as an everyday reliable watch and turning to a luxury item. I wear my sub lv everyday and love it.

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