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vonrozen · 20 October 2011, 08:12 PM

Dear Rolexians,

What do you say about this watch ?
Could it be real ?
The movement is unsigned - Has Rolex made unsigned movements ??? .
Has Rolex made an Essex watch ?

Please let me know what your gut reaction is ? All information is very welcome !

Thank you very much

Alexander

93 Turbo · 20 October 2011, 08:54 PM

Just curious as to why the shot (right hand side) with the back removed the watch clearly has lug holes. Yet your first shot on the left clearly shows no lug holes.

vonrozen · 20 October 2011, 08:59 PM

They seem to be there only on one side. What does this mean ? Is the case not genuine ?

Alcan · 20 October 2011, 09:24 PM

Yours looks real enough.

Back in the day, Rolex marketed some product lines exclusively to Canada. Don't know why they favoured Canada for this, but here's a short blurb.

http://www.yorktime.com/articles/200312123544

Some of the models included

Air Lion, Air Tiger, Airgiant, Airking, SpaceDweller, SkyRocket, Speedking, Falcon, Orchid, Observatory, Tridor, Athlete, Commando, Turtle Timer, Canadian, Empire, Oyster Lipton, Rolex Scientific, Rolex Everest, Tudor Advisor, Oyster Junior Sport, Oyster Raleigh, Oyster Commander, Oyster Recorda, Oyster Edison, Oyster Grenfell, Oyster Shipmate, Oyster Standard Oyster Chester, Oyster Essex, Rolex Corvette Observatory, Rolex Wellington, Rolex Victory (sometimes, just "Victory"), Oyster Centrgraph, Oyster Lincoln, Oyster Regent, Rolex Oyster Majestic Observatory, Rolex Oyster Seaforth Observatory, Rolex (London Chronometer) Observatory 18 jewel, Rolex Oyster Ellsworth Observatory, Rolex Oyster Pall Mall Observatory, Rolex Oyster Royalite, Rolex Oyster Royal, Oyster Recorda, Oyster Pioneer.

Some of these were exclusive to other markets, such as the Space-Dweller to Japan in later years, but a significant number of the above were Canadian only.

Back to yours, a large number of the Canadian market watches were fitted with 15 jewel (updated later to 17) caliber 65 or 59 FHF or Fontmelon movements, made for Rolex and therefore not signed.

vonrozen · 20 October 2011, 10:20 PM

HI Alcan,

Thanks very much indeed, such a detailed info ! If the movements were not 'in house' are they as good as the real ones ? Would an Rolex Essex be of collectable interest ?

Regards

Alexander

rmfnla · 21 October 2011, 08:37 AM

If you think about it, you really only need lug holes on one side...

20 October 2011, 08:12 PM	#1
vonrozen "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: london Posts: 29	HELP: Rolex Oyster Essex - does it exist ? Dear Rolexians, What do you say about this watch ? Could it be real ? The movement is unsigned - Has Rolex made unsigned movements ??? . Has Rolex made an Essex watch ? Please let me know what your gut reaction is ? All information is very welcome ! Thank you very much Alexander Attached Images

20 October 2011, 09:24 PM	#4
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Yours looks real enough. Back in the day, Rolex marketed some product lines exclusively to Canada. Don't know why they favoured Canada for this, but here's a short blurb. http://www.yorktime.com/articles/200312123544 Some of the models included Air Lion, Air Tiger, Airgiant, Airking, SpaceDweller, SkyRocket, Speedking, Falcon, Orchid, Observatory, Tridor, Athlete, Commando, Turtle Timer, Canadian, Empire, Oyster Lipton, Rolex Scientific, Rolex Everest, Tudor Advisor, Oyster Junior Sport, Oyster Raleigh, Oyster Commander, Oyster Recorda, Oyster Edison, Oyster Grenfell, Oyster Shipmate, Oyster Standard Oyster Chester, Oyster Essex, Rolex Corvette Observatory, Rolex Wellington, Rolex Victory (sometimes, just "Victory"), Oyster Centrgraph, Oyster Lincoln, Oyster Regent, Rolex Oyster Majestic Observatory, Rolex Oyster Seaforth Observatory, Rolex (London Chronometer) Observatory 18 jewel, Rolex Oyster Ellsworth Observatory, Rolex Oyster Pall Mall Observatory, Rolex Oyster Royalite, Rolex Oyster Royal, Oyster Recorda, Oyster Pioneer. Some of these were exclusive to other markets, such as the Space-Dweller to Japan in later years, but a significant number of the above were Canadian only. Back to yours, a large number of the Canadian market watches were fitted with 15 jewel (updated later to 17) caliber 65 or 59 FHF or Fontmelon movements, made for Rolex and therefore not signed. __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

21 October 2011, 08:37 AM	#6
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	If you think about it, you really only need lug holes on one side... __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

20 October 2011, 08:54 PM	#2
93 Turbo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Watch: Rolex.Tudor.PAM Posts: 1,554	Just curious as to why the shot (right hand side) with the back removed the watch clearly has lug holes. Yet your first shot on the left clearly shows no lug holes.

20 October 2011, 08:59 PM	#3
vonrozen "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: london Posts: 29	They seem to be there only on one side. What does this mean ? Is the case not genuine ?

20 October 2011, 10:20 PM	#5
vonrozen "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: london Posts: 29	HI Alcan, Thanks very much indeed, such a detailed info ! If the movements were not 'in house' are they as good as the real ones ? Would an Rolex Essex be of collectable interest ? Regards Alexander

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