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Old 23 August 2007, 03:57 PM   #31
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GMT Fakes

I am sceptical about these fakes... they could just be a really good "photoshop" concept at this stage... I think its what it is.

As a matter of fact I am pretty sure of it

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Old 23 August 2007, 03:57 PM   #32
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I think the ceramic bezel will be the real challenge for the counterfeiters. There is something about it that is just difficult to describe and thus to duplicate this with a non ceramic bezel will be difficult.

That being said, the average ‘folex buyer’ is unlikely to have actually seen, let alone handled a real Rolex, so a poor ‘metallic’ reproduction of a ceramic bezel will probably be enough to guarantee a healthy trade in these reproductions.

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Old 23 August 2007, 04:34 PM   #33
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I am not a watch or ETA expert......but the company that makes these ETA movements........are they not knowingly participating in the illegal activities with these counterfeit watches? Do they sell these movements to Asian guys that pull up with a truck at their warehouse?
These ETA movements have been around for a long time. If it would be difficult to get them, it might make the counterfeiting business more difficult.

Impose stricter rules on them(the company) and presto you might find the illegal market declining.

But the fact Rolex does not go after these guys(ETA people) I kind of shows that they really dont care about counterfeiters's.
Even with all their ROLEXROLEXROLEX and Cermaic bezels....and all that other anti counterfeiting measures that they have taken.

just my $0.02...

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Old 23 August 2007, 04:58 PM   #34
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I found the replica site and surprisingly it is only $238.00 and has an ETA 2836-2 movement.

Once ETA stops selling their raw movements, the quality of these reps should go down due to the poor quality Chinese movements.
From the photos blind Freddie could find the replica site and this whole thread seem to me like an advertisement for fakes. Saying how remarkably cheap they are is just a further advertisement.
I'm not very happy about this whole thread it just looks like a big advert for fakes (whether unintended or otherwise).
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Old 23 August 2007, 11:01 PM   #35
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Steve,

Just remove the original photo... that way there's no way to determine the originating site.

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From the photos blind Freddie could find the replica site and this whole thread seem to me like an advertisement for fakes. Saying how remarkably cheap they are is just a further advertisement.
I'm not very happy about this whole thread it just looks like a big advert for fakes (whether unintended or otherwise).
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Old 23 August 2007, 11:03 PM   #36
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It seems that the counterfeiters have started to imitate the Valjoux 7750 by making an "asian" copy. It is unreliable in terms of robustness, replica buyers are still going for it.

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I am not a watch or ETA expert......but the company that makes these ETA movements........are they not knowingly participating in the illegal activities with these counterfeit watches? Do they sell these movements to Asian guys that pull up with a truck at their warehouse?
These ETA movements have been around for a long time. If it would be difficult to get them, it might make the counterfeiting business more difficult.

Impose stricter rules on them(the company) and presto you might find the illegal market declining.

But the fact Rolex does not go after these guys(ETA people) I kind of shows that they really dont care about counterfeiters's.
Even with all their ROLEXROLEXROLEX and Cermaic bezels....and all that other anti counterfeiting measures that they have taken.

just my $0.02...

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Old 23 August 2007, 11:54 PM   #37
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Depressing!
Yeah it is depressing and the worst thing is that there are people that actually buy these watches. What's the point of wearing a fake watch. It's not going to make you happy like the real watch.
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Old 23 August 2007, 11:57 PM   #38
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I didn't read the rules so it's my mistake.
No harm, no foul, Velitsko.

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Thanks for the info about the ETA movements
You're welcome!

Looks like ETA is trying to get a stranglehold on the watch market.
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Old 23 August 2007, 11:59 PM   #39
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Yeah you are right about ETA
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Old 24 August 2007, 07:55 AM   #40
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I hope no one minds, but I removed all the posts that contained a link to the folex site. We don't condone those sites here, and rather than try to surgically remove the references, I thought it easier to just remove those posts.
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Old 24 August 2007, 09:52 AM   #41
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I apologise Rockrolex for what i did. I am truly sorry i didn't read the rules.
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Old 24 August 2007, 01:30 PM   #42
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It helps to understand how good the fakes are. If it saves one person from being taken advantage of a service is done.
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Old 24 August 2007, 10:59 PM   #43
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I apologise Rockrolex for what i did. I am truly sorry i didn't read the rules.
Not a problem, Velitsko. I know you posted in good faith, but we just don't like to give any credibility to fakes.
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