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kebabkongen · 16 November 2011, 08:52 AM

Hello,

I have at hand a deepsea with 3 dents , one rather big under the helium valve which is pretty visible when looking for it, and two small ones at the lugs. Seems like it has been dropped on concrete. The pearl in the bezel is missing completely and it has no papers. I trust the seller and i really love the watch!
So what would be a fair prize for this "wrecked" deepsea?

great forum by the way

Keeperoftime · 16 November 2011, 09:12 AM

Seems like it has been dropped on concrete? No pearl, papers?

I wouldn't buy it. Especially If you are planning on diving, what if the piece has been compromised (not just water-resistance but mechanically)?

rolexkiwi · 16 November 2011, 09:14 AM

welcome to trf
you might get a few replies here, many super knowledgable folks on this site
post pics, quite a few different ones in detail or people can't help you

cheers

dddrees · 16 November 2011, 09:16 AM

Welcome to TRF.

I personally would go for one in better condition and skip this piece.

Jocke · 16 November 2011, 09:17 AM

A watch with that history is a no no IMHO.

TempoKing · 16 November 2011, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kebabkongen

Hello,

I have at hand a deepsea with 3 dents , one rather big under the helium valve which is pretty visible when looking for it, and two small ones at the lugs. Seems like it has been dropped on concrete. The pearl in the bezel is missing completely and it has no papers. I trust the seller and i really love the watch!
So what would be a fair prize for this "wrecked" deepsea?

great forum by the way

If the watch is authentic and "honest" depending on price I'd buy it
All that is wrong can be corrected.

About price
Brand new are selling for $8300
For a nicely used Deep Sea let's say 25% off that which is $6250
Because it does not have the accesories or the "papers"
I will deduct another 550 which leaves $5700.

But now we have the pearl to worry, the large ding under the HV
and the minor dings in the lugs. Hummm..another 700 off will make me happy
and that will bring the price down....to $5000...

If you do not buy it... I will.

jekuo · 16 November 2011, 09:39 AM

Factor in the price of a complete service by RSC if you are worried about the condition , movement, and missing pearl. It will come back good as new (or almost).

T-Rip · 16 November 2011, 09:40 AM

Can you post some pics?

ffighter556 · 16 November 2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

If the watch is authentic and "honest" depending on price I'd buy it
All that is wrong can be corrected.

About price
Brand new are selling for $8300
For a nicely used Deep Sea let's say 25% off that which is $6250
Because it does not have the accesories or the "papers"
I will deduct another 550 which leaves $5700.

But now we have the pearl to worry, the large ding under the HV
and the minor dings in the lugs. Hummm..another 700 off will make me happy
and that will bring the price down....to $5000...

If you do not buy it... I will.

I would love to buy a NIB for $8300 where do I get one?

michaelt · 16 November 2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

If the watch is authentic and "honest" depending on price I'd buy it
All that is wrong can be corrected.

About price
Brand new are selling for $8300
For a nicely used Deep Sea let's say 25% off that which is $6250
Because it does not have the accesories or the "papers"
I will deduct another 550 which leaves $5700.

But now we have the pearl to worry, the large ding under the HV
and the minor dings in the lugs. Hummm..another 700 off will make me happy
and that will bring the price down....to $5000...

If you do not buy it... I will.

BN $8300? How about $10K to $11K at an AD. $9300 or so from trusted TRF dealer. I would say with a Rolex service if you paid $7500 you might be OK. Need pics though.

yannis · 16 November 2011, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

Brand new are selling for $8300

Taso get me a dozen mate.

TBH i doubt you or any other of the greys have ever sold a BNIB that low. If so you are the man.

kebabkongen · 16 November 2011, 10:44 AM

http://<a href="http://s1136.photobu...Photos" /></a>

kebabkongen · 16 November 2011, 10:48 AM

Here are some bad pictures, but the dents are on the left side of the watch.
As you can see the biggest dent is underneath the valve but the dent is aprox 2mm away from the valve. But it has affected the shape og the case whenn you see it from top. Not noticeable when having it on.

It is for sure the only way I can afford this lovely watch, but I greatly appreciate all advices. I for sure sure love it tough!:)

yannis · 16 November 2011, 10:54 AM

Kebab can you post some more clear ones?

kebabkongen · 16 November 2011, 11:00 AM

Sorry , tried everything with my N8 camera, but you can see on the left side that the case is a litle supressed and smaller dents on the two lugs.

yannis · 16 November 2011, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kebabkongen

Sorry , tried everything with my N8 camera

Can you try taking a better picture?

mrbill2mrbill2 · 16 November 2011, 11:41 AM

Run Forest run!!!

kebabkongen · 16 November 2011, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yannis7777

Can you try taking a better picture?

Sorry, my mobile camera will not take better pictures, will try to get a hold of better camera tomorrow. Man, ive just read the 16 page tread about the fake dssd being made, this made me very suspicious!
This watch is a v series and its been checked by an Ad but still i am scared after reading the posts.
Will investigate more tomorrow and try to get better pictures.

Nahligah · 16 November 2011, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

run forest run!!!

x2

kebabkongen · 16 November 2011, 05:59 PM

After my first paranoia has disappeared I am still thinking on buying this watch.
I have gone trough all the points in the "beware" post, and the only thing that dont add up is the second "star screw" which I can not see the star pattern in. I can see the little one is a star but the big one looks completely round? But the rolex script inside adds up and is lined up.
I have also had and autorised dealer confirm the autenticy of the watch and giving me a paper that verifies it. I am currently waiting for him to get answer from Rolex regarding the serial number, that it is not stolen. I will hopefully get that answer today. What do you say guys
I mean what more can I do to make sure its not a fake?
And if a respected AD says it real who am I to question it?

mcjp6 · 16 November 2011, 07:21 PM

Can you post some better pictures??

IMHO the clasp in post #13 is counterfeit.

kebabkongen · 16 November 2011, 07:33 PM

http://s1136.photobucket.com/albums/n481/kebabkongen/

This is the best i can do for now

tattooedfagin · 16 November 2011, 10:00 PM

$5000

to a dealer maybe but to Joe Public expect to pay more & $8300 is less than UK RRP back in Feb' 2010, been a few increases since then

yannis · 17 November 2011, 01:06 AM

On one of the pictures showing the caseback it appears the rear of the triplock crown (the edge of the crown-guards); something there looks wrong. Can someone with a sharper eye than mine confirm this?

kebabkongen · 17 November 2011, 03:24 AM

Ok folks, ive bought the watch.
One of the most respected rolex dealers in my region verified it and who Am I to question this?

I will post some better pictures when I get home and get my real camera.
Man I love this watch more and more, it really grows on me.

Need to change the bezel tough...

roach7 · 17 November 2011, 05:07 AM

congrats, awaiting pix...

i also have a deepsea incoming, can't wait...

psv · 17 November 2011, 05:14 AM

Good for you, I guess.

Personally I would have paid more to have one in minty condition so you can put your own dings on it as well as get a complete with with box/papers, still under warranty.

laphroaig007 · 17 November 2011, 06:26 AM

5000 USD would be the very highest bid I'll make...
But considering the watch and its condition, which obviously calls up for a complete service at a Rolex AD, and considering a Deepsea is rather recent watch, I'm quite surprised you could consider buying this one.
OK you know the seller, but how the hell fit he make these dents on such a recent watch. To me, it means the previous owner did not care one minute about this watch...
MY 2-cent opinion.

TempoKing · 17 November 2011, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yannis7777

Taso get me a dozen mate.

TBH i doubt you or any other of the greys have ever sold a BNIB that low. If so you are the man.

I am sorry Yanni
I should have added...MY price is $8300 -

....and if I bought one today with the euro at 1.35 it would have been $8100
for brand new in box...you know they are not flying out of the show cases

I sell for a little more for my charity
I sold one a LAST WEEK right here at TRF...

yannis · 17 November 2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

I am sorry Yanni
I should have added...MY price is $8300 -

I sell for a little more for my charity
I sold one a LAST WEEK right here at TRF...

You are the man Taso!!

16 November 2011, 09:12 AM	#2
Keeperoftime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,732	Seems like it has been dropped on concrete? No pearl, papers? I wouldn't buy it. Especially If you are planning on diving, what if the piece has been compromised (not just water-resistance but mechanically)? __________________ As a man is, so he sees. As the eye is formed, such are its powers. William Blake

16 November 2011, 09:14 AM	#3
rolexkiwi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Zealand Watch: Datejust 16233 Posts: 211	look out, be wary of any purchase welcome to trf you might get a few replies here, many super knowledgable folks on this site post pics, quite a few different ones in detail or people can't help you cheers __________________ No regrets

16 November 2011, 09:16 AM	#4
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Welcome to TRF. I personally would go for one in better condition and skip this piece. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

16 November 2011, 09:17 AM	#5
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	A watch with that history is a no no IMHO. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

16 November 2011, 09:40 AM	#8
T-Rip "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: Victorville CA Watch: Rolex DSSD 116660 Posts: 3,189	Can you post some pics? __________________ T-Rip Formally known as Haydendillon Rolex: DSSD 116660, 16622 PLATTY

16 November 2011, 08:52 AM	#1
kebabkongen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deepsea Posts: 10	Deepsea with dents, missing pearl and no papers.. Hello, I have at hand a deepsea with 3 dents , one rather big under the helium valve which is pretty visible when looking for it, and two small ones at the lugs. Seems like it has been dropped on concrete. The pearl in the bezel is missing completely and it has no papers. I trust the seller and i really love the watch! So what would be a fair prize for this "wrecked" deepsea? great forum by the way

16 November 2011, 09:39 AM	#7
jekuo Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: James Location: SoCal Watch: 16710B-M Series Posts: 288	Factor in the price of a complete service by RSC if you are worried about the condition , movement, and missing pearl. It will come back good as new (or almost).

16 November 2011, 10:44 AM	#12
kebabkongen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deepsea Posts: 10	http://<a href="http://s1136.photobu...Photos" /></a>

16 November 2011, 10:48 AM	#13
kebabkongen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deepsea Posts: 10	Here are some bad pictures, but the dents are on the left side of the watch. As you can see the biggest dent is underneath the valve but the dent is aprox 2mm away from the valve. But it has affected the shape og the case whenn you see it from top. Not noticeable when having it on. It is for sure the only way I can afford this lovely watch, but I greatly appreciate all advices. I for sure sure love it tough!:)

16 November 2011, 10:54 AM	#14
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Kebab can you post some more clear ones? __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

16 November 2011, 11:00 AM	#15
kebabkongen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deepsea Posts: 10	Sorry , tried everything with my N8 camera, but you can see on the left side that the case is a litle supressed and smaller dents on the two lugs.

16 November 2011, 11:41 AM	#17
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Run Forest run!!! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

16 November 2011, 05:59 PM	#20
kebabkongen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deepsea Posts: 10	After my first paranoia has disappeared I am still thinking on buying this watch. I have gone trough all the points in the "beware" post, and the only thing that dont add up is the second "star screw" which I can not see the star pattern in. I can see the little one is a star but the big one looks completely round? But the rolex script inside adds up and is lined up. I have also had and autorised dealer confirm the autenticy of the watch and giving me a paper that verifies it. I am currently waiting for him to get answer from Rolex regarding the serial number, that it is not stolen. I will hopefully get that answer today. What do you say guys I mean what more can I do to make sure its not a fake? And if a respected AD says it real who am I to question it?

16 November 2011, 07:21 PM	#21
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Can you post some better pictures?? IMHO the clasp in post #13 is counterfeit.

16 November 2011, 07:33 PM	#22
kebabkongen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deepsea Posts: 10	http://s1136.photobucket.com/albums/n481/kebabkongen/ This is the best i can do for now

16 November 2011, 10:00 PM	#23
tattooedfagin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chad Location: the neighbourhood Watch: 1680 Red Posts: 2,262	$5000 to a dealer maybe but to Joe Public expect to pay more & $8300 is less than UK RRP back in Feb' 2010, been a few increases since then __________________ SS Sub Date (F) DSSD (V) Red Sub (Mk4) TRF Hall of Fame

17 November 2011, 01:06 AM	#24
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	On one of the pictures showing the caseback it appears the rear of the triplock crown (the edge of the crown-guards); something there looks wrong. Can someone with a sharper eye than mine confirm this? __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

17 November 2011, 03:24 AM	#25
kebabkongen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deepsea Posts: 10	Ok folks, ive bought the watch. One of the most respected rolex dealers in my region verified it and who Am I to question this? I will post some better pictures when I get home and get my real camera. Man I love this watch more and more, it really grows on me. Need to change the bezel tough...

17 November 2011, 05:07 AM	#26
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	congrats, awaiting pix... i also have a deepsea incoming, can't wait...

17 November 2011, 05:14 AM	#27
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Good for you, I guess. Personally I would have paid more to have one in minty condition so you can put your own dings on it as well as get a complete with with box/papers, still under warranty.

17 November 2011, 06:26 AM	#28
laphroaig007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Marc Location: France Watch: 116710 & PAM372 Posts: 1,027	5000 USD would be the very highest bid I'll make... But considering the watch and its condition, which obviously calls up for a complete service at a Rolex AD, and considering a Deepsea is rather recent watch, I'm quite surprised you could consider buying this one. OK you know the seller, but how the hell fit he make these dents on such a recent watch. To me, it means the previous owner did not care one minute about this watch... MY 2-cent opinion.

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