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eric23 · 25 January 2012, 01:22 AM

Good Day All,

Does anyone know the current list price for a PAM 292? Do they still make it? How many a year?

Thanks for all your help,

Eric

Rollie2011 · 25 January 2012, 02:39 AM

Eric,
I wish I could help you on that one.
I will say this, the 292 is gorgeous!

sushisummo · 25 January 2012, 05:15 AM

MSRP is $9200 and I believe they are still making it.

bcacncnc · 25 January 2012, 10:08 AM

Hi Eric. I've been doing some research on the 292 lately too. Some interesting things I found out was that the case is made out of ceramic but the bezel and buckle are of the less durable PVD. I'm not 100% sure this is accurate though but I was concerned about scratches with the less durable PVD technology.

eric23 · 25 January 2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sushisummo

MSRP is $9200 and I believe they are still making it.

Thanks JT

eric23 · 25 January 2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bcacncnc

Hi Eric. I've been doing some research on the 292 lately too. Some interesting things I found out was that the case is made out of ceramic but the bezel and buckle are of the less durable PVD. I'm not 100% sure this is accurate though but I was concerned about scratches with the less durable PVD technology.

The case back and buckle are PVD, it does scratch but so does everything else.
I am not sure about the bezel. I will try one on tomorrow.

Fearsome Puppy · 25 January 2012, 11:48 AM

Eric, you're correct, it's the case back, buckle and screws that are PVD. Though it's only really the screws that are the issue with scratching off the PVD coating. Good luck in your hunt...

mfer · 25 January 2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eric23

The case back and buckle are PVD, it does scratch but so does everything else.
I am not sure about the bezel. I will try one on tomorrow.

Bezel is ceramic per Micah.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...for+292+owners

eric23 · 26 January 2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mfer

Bezel is ceramic per Micah.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...for+292+owners

Thanks for the link Mik

bcacncnc · 26 January 2012, 01:59 AM

Thx mik. Interesting read. I think we can confirm the following:

Ceramic:
Case
Bezel

PVD:
Buckle
Screws
Strap wire loops
Case back and
Crown

mfer · 26 January 2012, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bcacncnc

Thx mik. Interesting read. I think we can confirm the following:

Ceramic:
Case
Bezel

PVD:
Buckle
Screws
Strap wire loops
Case back and
Crown

I'm pretty sure the Crown is not PVD, but some other material. I recall reading the 292 crown shatters when struck sharply. I remember reading about some guy who had it happen twice. Let me see what I can find.

mfer · 26 January 2012, 02:37 AM

Ah, here we go.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...wn+Cap+Cracked

eric23 · 26 January 2012, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mfer

Ah, here we go.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...wn+Cap+Cracked

There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with that watch.

mfer · 26 January 2012, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eric23

There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with that watch.

That is the tradeoff for scratchproofness (if that is a word). You can't have it all.

The ceramic is is brittle (can crack) as a results of being so hard (scratchproof).

Steel is soft by comparision (doesn't crack) but scratches easily.

Cru Jones · 26 January 2012, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by eric23

There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with that watch.

to be fair, from reading the post, the poster dropped it 3 feet onto a tile floor....not something that would always result in problems, but, it's not 100% "shocking", either. maybe in an SS watch the case would be dented, or maybe the movement would get knocked around, or, maybe, nothing would happen.

eric23 · 26 January 2012, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

to be fair, from reading the post, the poster dropped it 3 feet onto a tile floor....not something that would always result in problems, but, it's not 100% "shocking", either. maybe in an SS watch the case would be dented, or maybe the movement would get knocked around, or, maybe, nothing would happen.

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Originally Posted by mfer

That is the tradeoff for scratchproofness (if that is a word). You can't have it all.

The ceramic is is brittle (can crack) as a results of being so hard (scratchproof).

Steel is soft by comparision (doesn't crack) but scratches easily.

True, good points both of you guys

, anyways I going to take my lunch break now and try it on at the AD.

eric23 · 26 January 2012, 04:53 AM

I tried on the 292 today, one of the nicest looking watches I have ever put on but just not for me, so I passed on it.

eric23 · 26 January 2012, 04:53 AM

I aslo tried on a 112;

Cru Jones · 26 January 2012, 10:09 AM

Thanks for the watch porn, Eric. Looking good! The 112 looks perfect on you. Just sayin'....

CMLPXLV · 26 January 2012, 12:34 PM

pam 00292 radiomir black seal ceramica- 45mm $9,200... wears smaller as per his size 45mm... Im not fan of PVD always an issue with that no matter wich brand... DLC is the present !

eric23 · 27 January 2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Thanks for the watch porn, Eric. Looking good! The 112 looks perfect on you. Just sayin'....

I know, I like it. They seem to not be able to keep them on the shelf at my AD this one just came in and it will be out the door by the weekend.

Cru Jones · 27 January 2012, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by eric23

I know, I like it. They seem to not be able to keep them on the shelf at my AD this one just came in and it will be out the door by the weekend.

...................and on your wrist??

eric23 · 27 January 2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

...................and on your wrist??

No, I think the next one will be a 372 or a 233.

Cru Jones · 27 January 2012, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eric23

No, I think the next one will be a 372 or a 233.

aaah, well, either of those will do, too.

bcacncnc · 27 January 2012, 03:22 AM

Eric. I think it looks nice on you. But maybe it just takes some time getting used to black watches. They certainly look cool!

Mfer. Thanks for the tip on the crown. Looking at the pics then the material does look like ceramic. I'm wondering though if the crown cracks can also be due to over tightening.

25 January 2012, 01:22 AM	#1
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	Pam 292 Good Day All, Does anyone know the current list price for a PAM 292? Do they still make it? How many a year? Thanks for all your help, Eric

25 January 2012, 02:39 AM	#2
Rollie2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: John Location: Palm Beach, FL Watch: Sub-C + Exp 42 Posts: 1,654	Eric, I wish I could help you on that one. I will say this, the 292 is gorgeous! __________________ John Submariner C LN Explorer 42 Polar

25 January 2012, 05:15 AM	#3
sushisummo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: JT Location: in a house....:) Watch: Hmmm......? Posts: 1,776	MSRP is $9200 and I believe they are still making it. __________________ Collections: -- R-O-L-E-X --AP-ROO -- P-A-N-E-R-A-I -- B-R-E-G-U-E-T -- I-W-C -- B-A-L-L -- O-T-H-E-R-S WISHLIST: Too many to list...... Member #23367

25 January 2012, 10:08 AM	#4
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	Hi Eric. I've been doing some research on the 292 lately too. Some interesting things I found out was that the case is made out of ceramic but the bezel and buckle are of the less durable PVD. I'm not 100% sure this is accurate though but I was concerned about scratches with the less durable PVD technology. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

25 January 2012, 11:48 AM	#7
Fearsome Puppy "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Kevin Location: Kuala Lumpur Watch: SD4K Posts: 880	Eric, you're correct, it's the case back, buckle and screws that are PVD. Though it's only really the screws that are the issue with scratching off the PVD coating. Good luck in your hunt... __________________ Lange 1815 Chrono, AP ROO 26470ST, RO 26230ST, Rolex 216570 (w), 116600, 116520 (w), IWC XV, PAM 366, 420, Omega 311.30.42.30.01.005, Seiko SKX007J, Apple Watch, a bunch of G-Shocks -------------------------------------------------------------

26 January 2012, 01:59 AM	#10
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	Thx mik. Interesting read. I think we can confirm the following: Ceramic: Case Bezel PVD: Buckle Screws Strap wire loops Case back and Crown __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

26 January 2012, 02:37 AM	#12
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Ah, here we go. http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...wn+Cap+Cracked __________________ member#3242

26 January 2012, 04:53 AM	#17
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	I tried on the 292 today, one of the nicest looking watches I have ever put on but just not for me, so I passed on it.

26 January 2012, 10:09 AM	#19
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	Thanks for the watch porn, Eric. Looking good! The 112 looks perfect on you. Just sayin'....

26 January 2012, 12:34 PM	#20
CMLPXLV Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Miami Posts: 41	pam 00292 radiomir black seal ceramica- 45mm $9,200... wears smaller as per his size 45mm... Im not fan of PVD always an issue with that no matter wich brand... DLC is the present !

27 January 2012, 03:22 AM	#25
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	Eric. I think it looks nice on you. But maybe it just takes some time getting used to black watches. They certainly look cool! Mfer. Thanks for the tip on the crown. Looking at the pics then the material does look like ceramic. I'm wondering though if the crown cracks can also be due to over tightening. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

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