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rjmarti · 28 January 2012, 01:37 AM

I would gladly welcome an education on what is or is not a president. I recognize a day, date watch as a president. I have also seen similar watches that are only the day. I have also seen the 'presidential' band.

However, I sometimes see older watches like a 1503 that I have in all gold to be listed as a president. I did not think this was/should be called a president. Yet all you have to do is google it and there are watch companies that have it listed for sale as one.

Are they simply taking liberty of an older all gold watch and just calling it a 'President' ?

Thanks !

adam78 · 28 January 2012, 01:48 AM

"President" is actually a nick name for the type of gold bracelet used first on Eisenhower's gold Datejust, I believe. He never owned a Day-Date. There's a lot of confusion on the subject.

GeoGio Greece · 28 January 2012, 02:07 AM

The watch is Day-Date, always in precious metals and not in SS.

The bracelets used, as well as for the gold ladies Datejust in gold and platimun, were called "President".

Some were in "bark" finish, to my opinion their BEST version.

rjmarti · 28 January 2012, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoGio Greece

The watch is Day-Date, always in precious metals and not in SS.

The bracelets used, as well as for the gold ladies Datejust in gold and platimun, were called "President".

Some were in "bark" finish, to my opinion their BEST version.

So then any Rolex that is not Day & Date, should not be called a president ?

MonBK · 28 January 2012, 02:17 AM

There is no confusion whats so ever as to what he was wearing.

Ike's watch had a gold jubilee bracelet and the pictures below are of his actual watch.

Note the engraving in the back which Rolex did before presenting the watch.

CaveDiver · 28 January 2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

There is no confusion whats so ever as to what he was wearing.

Ike's watch had a gold jubilee bracelet and the pictures below are of his actual watch.

Note the engraving in the back which Rolex did before presenting the watch.

Should that watch have gold spring bars?

MonBK · 28 January 2012, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CaveDiver

Should that watch have gold spring bars?

Most likely.

renfield33 · 28 January 2012, 02:33 AM

to me a president is a day-date, whether it is an automatic or oysterquartz.

there is a president bracelet, typically associated with the automatic day-date. i don't consider a men's gold datejust on a president bracelet to be a president.

i DO consider a women's gold datejust on a president bracelet, a president, because there is not a women's day-date.

Chipmunk · 28 January 2012, 03:21 AM

I thought President refers to the bracelet.

HERITAGE82 · 28 January 2012, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chipmunk

I thought President refers to the bracelet.

x 2....

MonBK · 28 January 2012, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chipmunk

I thought President refers to the bracelet.

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Originally Posted by QCASANOVA

x 2....

That used to be the case but nowadays Rolex refers to the DD as the President.

Paladin · 28 January 2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CaveDiver

Should that watch have gold spring bars?

Yup. The stainless steel to 18k gold contact will wear very fast and deep!

TTmax · 28 January 2012, 07:32 AM

MonBK · 28 January 2012, 07:40 AM

The above letter and the rest of the correspondence between Rolex and Eisenhower can be found here: www.rolexmagazine.com

LI Matt · 28 January 2012, 10:07 PM

From the above link, there's this:

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2010/0...mack-1986.html

An ad where Rolex calls the watch itself "the President Day-Date".

dddrees · 28 January 2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LI Matt

From the above link, there's this:

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2010/0...mack-1986.html

An ad where Rolex calls the watch itself "the President Day-Date".

I don't think I've seen that before. Thanks for sharing.

adam78 · 29 January 2012, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LI Matt

From the above link, there's this:

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2010/0...mack-1986.html

An ad where Rolex calls the watch itself "the President Day-Date".

See, Rolex was confused too!

MonBK · 29 January 2012, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by adam78

See, Rolex was confused too!

Not at all, I think they knew exactly what they were doing when they named it.

28 January 2012, 01:37 AM	#1
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	Question about definition of 'President' I would gladly welcome an education on what is or is not a president. I recognize a day, date watch as a president. I have also seen similar watches that are only the day. I have also seen the 'presidential' band. However, I sometimes see older watches like a 1503 that I have in all gold to be listed as a president. I did not think this was/should be called a president. Yet all you have to do is google it and there are watch companies that have it listed for sale as one. Are they simply taking liberty of an older all gold watch and just calling it a 'President' ? Thanks !

28 January 2012, 01:48 AM	#2
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,830	"President" is actually a nick name for the type of gold bracelet used first on Eisenhower's gold Datejust, I believe. He never owned a Day-Date. There's a lot of confusion on the subject. __________________ Cheers, Adam

28 January 2012, 02:07 AM	#3
GeoGio Greece "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: George Location: Athens, Greece Watch: es --> A lot ! Posts: 2,327	The watch is Day-Date, always in precious metals and not in SS. The bracelets used, as well as for the gold ladies Datejust in gold and platimun, were called "President". Some were in "bark" finish, to my opinion their BEST version. __________________ Rolex owner since 1971. 5513 and 16700 the loved ones. DJ WG Jubilee 16170 for wife - U series Oyster Perpetual WG 177234 for daughter V-series

28 January 2012, 02:17 AM	#5
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	There is no confusion whats so ever as to what he was wearing. Ike's watch had a gold jubilee bracelet and the pictures below are of his actual watch. Note the engraving in the back which Rolex did before presenting the watch. Attached Images

28 January 2012, 02:33 AM	#8
renfield33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Watch: GMT-II Pepsi Posts: 1,051	to me a president is a day-date, whether it is an automatic or oysterquartz. there is a president bracelet, typically associated with the automatic day-date. i don't consider a men's gold datejust on a president bracelet to be a president. i DO consider a women's gold datejust on a president bracelet, a president, because there is not a women's day-date. __________________ Lug hole loyalist!

28 January 2012, 03:21 AM	#9
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	I thought President refers to the bracelet. __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

28 January 2012, 07:32 AM	#13
TTmax Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Christophe Location: France Watch: DJ/Gmt2/IIc/E2/ToG Posts: 434

28 January 2012, 07:40 AM	#14
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	The above letter and the rest of the correspondence between Rolex and Eisenhower can be found here: www.rolexmagazine.com

28 January 2012, 10:07 PM	#15
LI Matt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 298	From the above link, there's this: http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2010/0...mack-1986.html An ad where Rolex calls the watch itself "the President Day-Date". __________________ I don't wear a Rolex for other people, I wear it for me. "We're going to hell anyway, let's travel first class" -- Kaiser Chiefs

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