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aeon888 · 24 March 2012, 11:31 PM

Any cheap watch out there can very well survive this Rolex Deep Sea 12KM Challenge because James Cameron will be wearing the watch inside the safety and comfort pressure zone of his state of the art SUBMERSIBLE vessel. It is therefore misleading to advertise it this way.

Unless of course, James Cameron ties the watch outside his submersible then that is another story. But then again, that would be silly not to be able to wear it during deep sea diving.

dsio · 24 March 2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aeon888

This upcoming new Rolex Deepsea with James Cameron is very misleading. It boasts of a 12km deep sea dive but then again Mr James Cameron would be crushed to death if he is NOT inside a submersible/mini submarine vessel. So does that mean he will tie the new ROLEX deepsea outside his submarine when he dives to 12Km??? Because if he wears it then they shouldnt be advertising about the 12Km deep dive and the Rolex deepsea. It is very misleading.

Well if he wanted to wear it, he could wear a Patek Calatrava inside that capsule, and then they could advertise that their dress watches are capable of being worn on 12,000M dives.

dsio · 24 March 2012, 11:34 PM

As amazing an engineering feat this is, the Sinn UX still impresses me more. I'm a firm believer in working smart, not hard, and filling the damn thing with silicone and not bothering about making it particularly pressure resistant was a pretty brilliant idea for whoever thought of it.

SennaFan · 24 March 2012, 11:50 PM

I would be curious to see if they tied a regular DSSD to the outside and see how far past it's rating it would go before folding....

horseco · 25 March 2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dsio

well if he wanted to wear it, he could wear a patek calatrava inside that capsule, and then they could advertise that their dress watches are capable of being worn on 12,000m dives.

hahah!!!

ecsub44 · 25 March 2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aeon888

Any cheap watch out there can very well survive this Rolex Deep Sea 12KM Challenge because James Cameron will be wearing the watch inside the safety and comfort pressure zone of his state of the art SUBMERSIBLE vessel. It is therefore misleading to advertise it this way.

Unless of course, James Cameron ties the watch outside his submersible then that is another story. But then again, that would be silly not to be able to wear it during deep sea diving.

Really?

The intent is that the watch will be on the OUTSIDE of the vessel.

It would be biggest waste of time, and no one is that foolish, to think the watch is needed for INSIDE the vessel.

The point is that they can develop a wath to withstand the harshest environment on earth. It's superfluous to use inside the submersible.

dsio · 25 March 2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ecsub44

Really?

The intent is that the watch will be on the OUTSIDE of the vessel.

It would be biggest waste of time, and no one is that foolish, to think the watch is needed for INSIDE the vessel.

The point is that they can develop a wath to withstand the harshest environment on earth. It's superfluous to use inside the submersible.

Well... technically superfluous would be having it outside where it couldn't be read, the Calatrava in the cabin is prudent ;)

horseco · 25 March 2012, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ecsub44

Really?

The intent is that the watch will be on the OUTSIDE of the vessel.

It would be biggest waste of time, and no one is that foolish, to think the watch is needed for INSIDE the vessel.

The point is that they can develop a watch to withstand the harshest environment on earth. It's superfluous to use inside the submersible.

World record for deepest dive on SCUBA at 1,083 feet/330 meters. No human has survived past that depth without a pressure suit... To make a watch that if used to its potential would be suicide, seems pointless to me...

tranny · 25 March 2012, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by aeon888

This upcoming new Rolex Deepsea with James Cameron is very misleading. It boasts of a 12km deep sea dive but then again Mr James Cameron would be crushed to death if he is NOT inside a submersible/mini submarine vessel. So does that mean he will tie the new ROLEX deepsea outside his submarine when he dives to 12Km??? Because if he wears it then they shouldnt be advertising about the 12Km deep dive and the Rolex deepsea. It is very misleading.

I don't think it's even a manned submersible...

dsio · 25 March 2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by transio

I don't think it's even a manned submersible...

It is, read a few pages back

Minutehand · 25 March 2012, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by transio

I don't think it's even a manned submersible...

Guys, go and browse www.deepseachallenge.com. The submarine will be manned by one person, Cameron, while the watch will be tied outside the submarine on one of the booms. The watch tied to the boom can be seen in a video of a test run. Looks like the actual dive might happen this weekend, weather permitting.

ecsub44 · 25 March 2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dsio

Well... technically superfluous would be having it outside where it couldn't be read, the Calatrava in the cabin is prudent ;)

Touche!

ecsub44 · 25 March 2012, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by horseco

World record for deepest dive on SCUBA at 1,083 feet/330 meters. No human has survived past that depth without a pressure suit... To make a watch that if used to its potential would be suicide, seems pointless to me...

Correct. The point isn't to create a watch in any "useful" sense of the word. It's to push the boundries of design and engineering.

Somewhat pointless, I suppose, from a practicality standpoint. But inevitably, technology from this stellar watch will surely make it's way back to the standard line of watches...which will improve things for everyone. That's how R&D works.

aeon888 · 25 March 2012, 01:56 AM

So why shouldn't this fall under the dumbest idea/invention of the century list?

If it's a watch that is supposed to be worn, but yet can not be worn under 12KM in the ocean because it is not physically possible to do so and survive.

Reminds of the failed inventions documentary show on history channel wherein the US military developed a short-range cannon-type portable nuclear rocket that can be carried and fired by a single soldier. Yes, they were able to successfully make one but then they figured out that the blast range and radiation fall-out would also kill the soldier who fires the rocket. Seems like a suicide mission everytime you use the new device. So they scrapped it.

Well, for the sake of what ifs, I would still give credit to Rolex for this mission.

Dr. Robert · 25 March 2012, 02:17 AM

Isn't the dive happening this weekend??????

aeon888 · 25 March 2012, 02:29 AM

I have a suggestion to ROLEX on how to advertise this watch and sell it to the market.

"New Deep sea Rolex watch 12KM waterproof! You ride in a cruise ship, cruise ship sinks 12KM under the sea, ship captain bails out, you're dead but your new Rolex Deepsea survives to tell the tale!" (and your family can still keep the watch after salvage!) Good investment!

Philipp · 25 March 2012, 04:08 AM

UPDATE:

James Cameron May Dive Mariana Trench This Weekend!! Weather Permitting. The Sub has already been to deepest point and back, unmanned and unscathed. Earlier this week retired U.S. Navy Capt. Don Walsh said via email, “The sub, its team and the mother ship are all ready to go, and we only wait for the ‘weather gods’ to favor us.” –> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...t-science-sub/

ecsub44 · 25 March 2012, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aeon888

I have a suggestion to ROLEX on how to advertise this watch and sell it to the market.

"New Deep sea Rolex watch 12KM waterproof! You ride in a cruise ship, cruise ship sinks 12KM under the sea, ship captain bails out, you're dead but your new Rolex Deepsea survives to tell the tale!" (and your family can still keep the watch after salvage!) Good investment!

I won't belabor the point here. Many companies often create things of little intrinsic, marketable value. This is called RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT. The point of such endeavors is to learn something new, create new tools and processes, and make forward progress in an area.

Every single successful company in the world does things like this. Although they might productize the outcome, they will most certainly use what they learned in future product development.

No one in their right mind thinks this is a practical watch. But that's not the point. We will likely see some "improvement" to the rest of the Rolex line as a result of this.

Just like your example. I 100% guarantee that SOMETHING came out of that development that made it's way into a very real, useable product. It surely wasn't a waste.

Make sense?

Heck, maybe domed crystals will start shown up again. That would be with it for me!

emagni · 25 March 2012, 05:17 AM

Testing theory measured by pressure test equipment to testing that theory to actual scenerio. Love it! The point isn't for a person to be wearing it. The purpose is to prove that the watch can survive and work properly under real conditions.

liuk3 · 25 March 2012, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SennaFan

I would be curious to see if they tied a regular DSSD to the outside and see how far past it's rating it would go before folding....

That would actually be pretty cool. Love your screen name too.

Subfiend · 25 March 2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipp

UPDATE: “The sub, its team and the mother ship are all ready to go, and we only wait for the ‘weather gods’ to favor us.” –> []

The gods are smiling.

Dr. Robert · 25 March 2012, 08:51 AM

Are they there yet?

ecsub44 · 25 March 2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Are they there yet?

Not that I know of. But the DSSDCD was spotted in a photo. Pretty cool!

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2012/0...tached-to.html

horseco · 25 March 2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ecsub44

Correct. The point isn't to create a watch in any "useful" sense of the word. It's to push the boundaries of design and engineering.

Somewhat pointless, I suppose, from a practicality standpoint. But inevitably, technology from this stellar watch will surely make it's way back to the standard line of watches...which will improve things for everyone. That's how R&D works.

I normally would agree, but Rolex being waterproof hasn't been an issue for 5 decades... & not one thing has been done to modify/improve the movement inside... Just seems like the only thing accomplished is some childish bragging right, & the creation of one preposterous looking watch that cannot be used to a fraction of its potential...

mountbaldy · 25 March 2012, 09:32 AM

Just put James Cameron's face on the dial and there you have it ....

For such a historic event, Is this all they could come up with: that
UGLY crystal protruding out like a tumor???

& what has the ringlock turned into? An Etch-A-Sketch???

InTime · 25 March 2012, 09:32 AM

does anyone know the thickness of this watch? the glass looks thick!

ecsub44 · 25 March 2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by horseco

I normally would agree, but Rolex being waterproof hasn't been an issue for 5 decades... & not one thing has been done to modify/improve the movement inside... Just seems like the only thing accomplished is some childish bragging right, & the creation of one preposterous looking watch that cannot be used to a fraction of its potential...

They made quite a few improvements to their movements over the past 5 decades.

Either way...I want that domed sapphire crystal on my next Rolex. Albeit not quite so HUGE!

ecsub44 · 25 March 2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by InTime

does anyone know the thickness of this watch? the glass looks thick!

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2012/0...challenge.html

51.4mm watch diameter
28.5mm watch thickness
14.3mm crystal thickness

Basically...it's FREAKING GIGANTIC and totally RIDICULOUS!

But...it's also pretty AMAZING!

tranny · 25 March 2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Minutehand

Guys, go and browse www.deepseachallenge.com.

No thanks. Doesn't interest me in the least.

mountbaldy · 25 March 2012, 10:57 AM

the crystal looks like it is something they threw together quickly ----

24 March 2012, 11:34 PM	#243
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	As amazing an engineering feat this is, the Sinn UX still impresses me more. I'm a firm believer in working smart, not hard, and filling the damn thing with silicone and not bothering about making it particularly pressure resistant was a pretty brilliant idea for whoever thought of it. __________________ -- Omega Seamaster Grand-Lux Stepped Pie-Pan 14K Gold OJ2627 '53 -- -- Omega Cal 320 Chronograph 18K Gold OT2872 '58 -- -- Omega Cal 321 Speedmaster Pro 145.012 '67 -- -- Rolex Submariner 1680 "Ghost" '79 -- -- Rolex SS Daytona 116520 '04 --

25 March 2012, 02:17 AM	#255
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24 March 2012, 11:31 PM	#241
aeon888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 746	Any cheap watch out there can very well survive this Rolex Deep Sea 12KM Challenge because James Cameron will be wearing the watch inside the safety and comfort pressure zone of his state of the art SUBMERSIBLE vessel. It is therefore misleading to advertise it this way. Unless of course, James Cameron ties the watch outside his submersible then that is another story. But then again, that would be silly not to be able to wear it during deep sea diving.

24 March 2012, 11:50 PM	#244
SennaFan Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: OB Watch: The Birdie Posts: 603	I would be curious to see if they tied a regular DSSD to the outside and see how far past it's rating it would go before folding....

25 March 2012, 01:56 AM	#254
aeon888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 746	So why shouldn't this fall under the dumbest idea/invention of the century list? If it's a watch that is supposed to be worn, but yet can not be worn under 12KM in the ocean because it is not physically possible to do so and survive. Reminds of the failed inventions documentary show on history channel wherein the US military developed a short-range cannon-type portable nuclear rocket that can be carried and fired by a single soldier. Yes, they were able to successfully make one but then they figured out that the blast range and radiation fall-out would also kill the soldier who fires the rocket. Seems like a suicide mission everytime you use the new device. So they scrapped it. Well, for the sake of what ifs, I would still give credit to Rolex for this mission.

25 March 2012, 02:29 AM	#256
aeon888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 746	I have a suggestion to ROLEX on how to advertise this watch and sell it to the market. "New Deep sea Rolex watch 12KM waterproof! You ride in a cruise ship, cruise ship sinks 12KM under the sea, ship captain bails out, you're dead but your new Rolex Deepsea survives to tell the tale!" (and your family can still keep the watch after salvage!) Good investment!

25 March 2012, 04:08 AM	#257
Philipp "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: worldwide ;) Posts: 390	UPDATE: James Cameron May Dive Mariana Trench This Weekend!! Weather Permitting. The Sub has already been to deepest point and back, unmanned and unscathed. Earlier this week retired U.S. Navy Capt. Don Walsh said via email, “The sub, its team and the mother ship are all ready to go, and we only wait for the ‘weather gods’ to favor us.” –> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...t-science-sub/

25 March 2012, 09:32 AM	#265
mountbaldy Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: socal Posts: 95	Just put James Cameron's face on the dial and there you have it .... For such a historic event, Is this all they could come up with: that UGLY crystal protruding out like a tumor??? & what has the ringlock turned into? An Etch-A-Sketch???

25 March 2012, 09:32 AM	#266
InTime Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: BermudaAntarctica Posts: 892	does anyone know the thickness of this watch? the glass looks thick!

25 March 2012, 10:57 AM	#270
mountbaldy Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: socal Posts: 95	the crystal looks like it is something they threw together quickly ----

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