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bbrick21 · 19 April 2012, 04:13 PM

Im sure I could get more photos if needed. It is for sale locally, and yes i am interested. Thanks for any help.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 19 April 2012, 09:02 PM

The lugs look off. At 6 o'clock right lug is shorter than left. The bracelet has a lot of stretch.

I would pass.

Monte Cristo · 19 April 2012, 09:17 PM

The crystal (or maybe glass) looks off as do the gaps in the bracelet. Very suspicious therefore fake IMO.

TimeToGo · 20 April 2012, 12:53 AM

It appears good. Since you have the paperwork and tag, you should be able to remove the bracelet and verify the serial number.

The dial appears proper for the time period "Swiss Made" but I would prefer to see a close up of that area of the dial.

Hopefully the price is good for you!

jfestrelabr · 20 April 2012, 03:12 AM

Open de case and see the movment.

alexthegreat123 · 20 April 2012, 04:28 AM

Looks good to me...lots of wear though, numbers in between the lugs will say it all

dysondiver · 20 April 2012, 04:47 AM

would tend to sugest its genuine ,,, but its scruffy , id pass on by , and find something that you would be happier to own.

Michael M. · 20 April 2012, 10:52 AM

Looks genuine, but a bit beat up, I'd pass on this one.

springer · 20 April 2012, 11:55 AM

I agree, the watch looks genuine and if the price is right - buy it!!! (Nice, complete, circa 2000 Subs are selling for around $4400-$4800.)

crowncollection · 20 April 2012, 05:04 PM

The papers are genuine , if the numbers between the lugs match. Your looking good. I can't see anything that stands out that looks fake.

bayerische · 20 April 2012, 06:20 PM

Solid end links? On a P-serie?

Andad · 20 April 2012, 07:17 PM

I'd pass.

MoBe · 20 April 2012, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

Solid end links? On a P-serie?

Yes they do exist,it will also have lugholes.

bayerische · 20 April 2012, 09:34 PM

MoBe, you are right, was it around 2000 this changed?

FNFZ4 · 21 April 2012, 02:48 PM

this is an easy fake

93250 on P serial? I might be wrong but isnt it supposed to be 93150?

Goiguidoc · 21 April 2012, 10:30 PM

Both watch and band look good to me.
The band is not in good condition, take that into account.

Goiguidoc · 21 April 2012, 10:30 PM

Both watch and band look good to me.
The band is not in good condition, take that into account.

azguy · 22 April 2012, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNFZ4

this is an easy fake

93250 on P serial? I might be wrong but isnt it supposed to be 93150?

I'm surprised no one else saw this....plus, the crown looks big doesn't it

I would tread carefully here....

imono · 22 April 2012, 01:43 AM

Prior to the P series the bracelet is 93150 with 501B End Links.
The 93250 has SEL's and were fitted with the P and after.
Here are 2 pictures.

19 April 2012, 04:13 PM	#1
bbrick21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: pa Posts: 5	help me check this sub date out Im sure I could get more photos if needed. It is for sale locally, and yes i am interested. Thanks for any help. Attached Images

19 April 2012, 09:02 PM	#2
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	The lugs look off. At 6 o'clock right lug is shorter than left. The bracelet has a lot of stretch. I would pass. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

20 April 2012, 04:28 AM	#6
alexthegreat123 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Cincinnati, OH Watch: GMT 16710 w/ 3186 Posts: 8,406	Looks good to me...lots of wear though, numbers in between the lugs will say it all __________________ GMT Master II 16710 w/3186 "M" Coke SeaDweller 16600 "M"

20 April 2012, 11:55 AM	#9
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	I agree, the watch looks genuine and if the price is right - buy it!!! (Nice, complete, circa 2000 Subs are selling for around $4400-$4800.) __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

20 April 2012, 05:04 PM	#10
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	The papers are genuine , if the numbers between the lugs match. Your looking good. I can't see anything that stands out that looks fake. __________________ watches many

19 April 2012, 09:17 PM	#3
Monte Cristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Watch: ing you... Posts: 3,775	The crystal (or maybe glass) looks off as do the gaps in the bracelet. Very suspicious therefore fake IMO.

20 April 2012, 12:53 AM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	It appears good. Since you have the paperwork and tag, you should be able to remove the bracelet and verify the serial number. The dial appears proper for the time period "Swiss Made" but I would prefer to see a close up of that area of the dial. Hopefully the price is good for you!

20 April 2012, 03:12 AM	#5
jfestrelabr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Felipe Location: Brazil Watch: ALL rolex models Posts: 397	Open de case and see the movment.

20 April 2012, 04:47 AM	#7
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	would tend to sugest its genuine ,,, but its scruffy , id pass on by , and find something that you would be happier to own.

20 April 2012, 10:52 AM	#8
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Looks genuine, but a bit beat up, I'd pass on this one.

20 April 2012, 06:20 PM	#11
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Solid end links? On a P-serie? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

20 April 2012, 07:17 PM	#12
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	I'd pass. __________________ E

20 April 2012, 09:34 PM	#14
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	MoBe, you are right, was it around 2000 this changed? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

21 April 2012, 02:48 PM	#15
FNFZ4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Alfred Location: DC Metro Watch: None Posts: 29,368	this is an easy fake 93250 on P serial? I might be wrong but isnt it supposed to be 93150? __________________ NEED PC HELP? ASK HERE! Watches: Patek 5205G \| Patek 5167A \| 16613 Serti \| 116718 Green \| 216570 Black \| 16700 Pepsi Wish list: Patek 5726/1 \| AP RG Ceramic \| Patek 5712 \| Patek 5130

21 April 2012, 10:30 PM	#16
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	Both watch and band look good to me. The band is not in good condition, take that into account.

22 April 2012, 01:43 AM	#19
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	Prior to the P series the bracelet is 93150 with 501B End Links. The 93250 has SEL's and were fitted with the P and after. Here are 2 pictures. Attached Images

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