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Old 11 May 2012, 06:40 AM   #1
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Brand new 2012 116610LN in London?

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I'm in the market for a brand new 2012 Sub. Only problem is all ADs in London don't have any in stock. So is there anywhere in London I can get one?

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Old 11 May 2012, 06:45 AM   #2
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You can get one right here on TRF from a reputable seller.
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Old 11 May 2012, 07:00 AM   #3
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That old chestnut, again...

I swear these AD's in London talk s**t all the time.

You can find them, there are loads of AD's in London and it'll be a case of ringing around or visiting them in person.
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Old 11 May 2012, 07:37 AM   #4
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My AD has two in.the.safe, next to the.daytonas... It's all b###s in london
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Old 11 May 2012, 07:55 AM   #5
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Not sure about London but Goldsmiths at Lakeside, Thurrock had one in the window last week.
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Old 11 May 2012, 08:06 AM   #6
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Big AD's like Mappin and Webb, Watches of Switzerland and Gold Smiths can get one for you within a day or two even they did not have one in the store
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Old 11 May 2012, 08:16 AM   #7
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There are plenty here in the FS section. Get in touch with one of the many reputable sellers.

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Old 11 May 2012, 08:21 AM   #8
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Thanks guys, I've heard of AD keeping some in their safes etc. I phoned the Rolex Boutique in One Hyde Park Corner ("Biggest authorised dealer in the Northern Hemisphere" - apparently) and they didn't have any? Would I be better off going into an AD as opposed to phoning?
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Old 11 May 2012, 09:10 AM   #9
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I would go out to the various ADs and try a few watches on.
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Old 11 May 2012, 10:28 PM   #10
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Thanks guys, I've heard of AD keeping some in their safes etc. I phoned the Rolex Boutique in One Hyde Park Corner ("Biggest authorised dealer in the Northern Hemisphere" - apparently) and they didn't have any? Would I be better off going into an AD as opposed to phoning?
Hyde Park Corner are the WORST of the No-Sub Blaggers. Don't bother going there...
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Old 11 May 2012, 11:30 PM   #11
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why do they pretend they don't have stock? So you order and don't expect a discount?
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Old 11 May 2012, 11:32 PM   #12
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Thanks guys, I've heard of AD keeping some in their safes etc. I phoned the Rolex Boutique in One Hyde Park Corner ("Biggest authorised dealer in the Northern Hemisphere" - apparently) and they didn't have any? Would I be better off going into an AD as opposed to phoning?
As suggested earlier, have you contacted sellers from the forum? You may have to pay more with shipping wt al, but if you really want a new Sub...
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Old 11 May 2012, 11:55 PM   #13
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I agree that they do lie about the sports models however are they allowed to do this? What does Rolex say about this?
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Old 12 May 2012, 12:06 AM   #14
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It's because some AD's love to give potential buyers the runaround - It's to create a sense a urgency and then ultimately make you feel like you owe them something for doing you a favour, or for pulling something out of the bag for you.

Reality check - it's their (basic) job!!

It's a silly little practice that some people who work in retail selling top-end luxury items tend to do - FACT.

Not all, but many London-based AD's do this, and buyers lap it up, when in actual fact what buyers need to be doing is to be telling them to crack the f**k on.

After all it's you that would potentially be spending that sort of money with them!! Do they want the business, or not?!
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Old 12 May 2012, 12:39 AM   #15
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There has been more than one story of that watch being pulled out of a safe after telling the customer, they didn't have one

I would make some "in-person" vists and show them you are a serious buyer....
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Old 12 May 2012, 12:49 AM   #16
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i was recently in san francisco, and heard it from the horses mouth, while chatting with the salesperson, he/she volunteered that "yes we have steel daytonas and green subs in the safe we keep them for our special customers" the salesperson was not so polished in their profession as yet and probably didn't realize he/she was supposed to fib about these things
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Old 12 May 2012, 01:18 AM   #17
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This is bad news! I wonder if Rolex condone this sort of practice...

Well guys with the help of a member here (who shall remain anonymous unless he wants to humbly own up) I have ordered one from an AD in London and it should be here next week (keep your fingers crossed for me)

I will do a review of it once I have received it, and as it is my first watch, I'm hoping I'm going to be smitten (already got my eye on a Daytona?!!!!!)

Thanks to everyone on this, you are all gentlemen and scholars :-)
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Old 12 May 2012, 01:57 AM   #18
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I'll pray that your 116610LN will arrive before a price increase. Heard it's really just around the corner. Could be the reason why AD is keeping the hot SS models.
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Old 12 May 2012, 02:03 AM   #19
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I'll pray that your 116610LN will arrive before a price increase. Heard it's really just around the corner. Could be the reason why AD is keeping the hot SS models.
GULP!
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I'll pray that your 116610LN will arrive before a price increase. Heard it's really just around the corner. Could be the reason why AD is keeping the hot SS models.
The deal is done. It doesn't work like that.
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Old 12 May 2012, 02:06 AM   #21
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The deal is done. It doesn't work like that.
Deposit guarantees price?
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Old 12 May 2012, 03:29 AM   #22
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Deposit guarantees price?
You've placed a deposit with the AD and they have taken it on the premise that it's for an item that had a certain value at the time of ordering it.

It will be fine.

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You've placed a deposit with the AD and they have taken it on the premise that it's for an item that had a certain value at the time of ordering it.

It will be fine.

According to my head office at my AD (Ernest Jones), they are themselves charged on receipt of the item, therefore if its received after a price increase, that price increase is passed on to the customer.
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This is bad news! I wonder if Rolex condone this sort of practice...

Well guys with the help of a member here (who shall remain anonymous unless he wants to humbly own up) I have ordered one from an AD in London and it should be here next week (keep your fingers crossed for me)

I will do a review of it once I have received it, and as it is my first watch, I'm hoping I'm going to be smitten (already got my eye on a Daytona?!!!!!)

Thanks to everyone on this, you are all gentlemen and scholars :-)
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About 3 years ago tourneu in NYC told me I couldn't get an ss daytona, no matter what.
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Old 12 May 2012, 06:36 AM   #27
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According to my head office at my AD (Ernest Jones), they are themselves charged on receipt of the item, therefore if its received after a price increase, that price increase is passed on to the customer.
No offence, but think about what you are saying, like on a human level, just for a minute??!!

Imagine you are the AD, pretend that a customer ordered a watch from you and left a deposit in store. Then a week or ten days later the watch comes in but within this time the general rrp has gone up. Do you honestly think you'd even attempt to tell the buyer that he's got to pay another £300 or whatever?? Not going to happen. Your AD needs to go home.

Do you not think that most AD's will use a price increase date to their advantage?? The notice that AD's are given may be short, but realistically it's still long enough to call back the numbers from all the perspective buyers, not to mention walk-in punters to tell them how they should buy now to avoid the price-increase?? I've heard that boll**ks myself before!
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Old 12 May 2012, 06:51 AM   #28
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Awesome Michael.

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Old 12 May 2012, 07:22 AM   #29
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No offence, but think about what you are saying, like on a human level, just for a minute??!!

Imagine you are the AD, pretend that a customer ordered a watch from you and left a deposit in store. Then a week or ten days later the watch comes in but within this time the general rrp has gone up. Do you honestly think you'd even attempt to tell the buyer that he's got to pay another £300 or whatever?? Not going to happen. Your AD needs to go home.

Do you not think that most AD's will use a price increase date to their advantage?? The notice that AD's are given may be short, but realistically it's still long enough to call back the numbers from all the perspective buyers, not to mention walk-in punters to tell them how they should buy now to avoid the price-increase?? I've heard that boll**ks myself before!

Think about this from a business (profitability) perspective. If you hold 0 inventory and use just in time for high value items, then you will have a standard GP% which you will apply to the Cost of goods sold which are invoiced on delivery.

It may well transpire that like most things Rolex this is smoke and mirrors. But it is a plausible story.
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Think about this from a business (profitability) perspective. If you hold 0 inventory and use just in time for high value items, then you will have a standard GP% which you will apply to the Cost of goods sold which are invoiced on delivery.

It may well transpire that like most things Rolex this is smoke and mirrors. But it is a plausible story.
Yeah, it is a plausible scenario business-wise, my reference however was based "on a human level", which lets face it is what takes place more often than not in a retail outlet.

Smoke and mirrors is exactly what I'm referring to, nothing more.

Your AD is still talking s**t, just like so many others who have the authorisation to sell Rolex.
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