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pandrew6l · 28 July 2012, 11:25 PM

DD with "Aftermarket" Rolex signed band, is this up to the Forum standard ?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=245733

NYMike · 28 July 2012, 11:32 PM

I don't see this as the biggest issue. It's a disposable band - rolex or not. Once someone wears a leather band it's value drops to 0 - regardless of who makes it. This one looks to be an ok watch, with a recent service.

77T · 29 July 2012, 12:29 AM

The seller has correctly advised it is on an aftermarket band in his listing. Consider his price as if you're buying head only - the aftermarket band can be changed out or left off if you like.

Too Old · 29 July 2012, 01:16 AM

When aftermarket is used to describe an item on the forum I have always taken that to mean not a Rolex made item.
Anything with the Rolex logo or name on is therefore counterfeit.
If I am right then the watch in question has the logo on the Buckle and Rolex on the inside, and could be described as counterfeit.
If this watch was on ebay it would be in the watch out section for this reason!
Of course I could be wrong!!!

crowncollection · 29 July 2012, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by too old

when aftermarket is used to describe an item on the forum i have always taken that to mean not a rolex made item.
Anything with the rolex logo or name on is therefore counterfeit.
If i am right then the watch in question has the logo on the buckle and rolex on the inside, and could be described as counterfeit.
If this watch was on ebay it would be in the watch out section for this reason!
Of course i could be wrong!!!

x 2

mcjp6 · 29 July 2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandrew6l

DD with "Aftermarket" Rolex signed band, is this up to the Forum standard ?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=245733

No, one would like to think think not.

Alcan · 29 July 2012, 10:12 AM

The seller has provided full dislcosure. What is the problem here?

Silvio Mosiello · 29 July 2012, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

The seller has provided full dislcosure. What is the problem here?

There is none. Its the equivilant to someone selling a Panerai head with a nice leather band to use. 100% okay.

pandrew6l · 29 July 2012, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

The seller has provided full dislcosure. What is the problem here?

A simple question from a Newbie, is a disclosure of a counterfeit item acceptable in this Forum ?

Silvio Mosiello · 29 July 2012, 10:23 AM

No.

cajunron · 29 July 2012, 10:30 AM

IN MY OPINION, his disclosure that watch has aftermarket band is okay. A leather band is considered a 'consumable'. or an item easily and quickly used and/or replaced. The thing I have issue with, is that if said band is made by someone other than ROLEX, and it has ROLEX insignia or the WORD Rolex on it, that is copyright infringement and considered counterfeit. IMO.

Ed Rooney · 29 July 2012, 10:30 AM

I would be perfectly ok with this. Straps don't last forever and it is not unusual to keep the hardware and get some other type of strap.

mcjp6 · 29 July 2012, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

The seller has provided full dislcosure. What is the problem here?

Al, the band is counterfeit. That is the problem. Full disclosure or not the band is still counterfeit plain and simple.

dalip · 29 July 2012, 10:39 AM

The listing has been removed.

The band is not aftermarket ... It is fake as it has "rolex" stamped into it.

This is against Trf rules. We do not accept any fake parts.

Ed Rooney · 29 July 2012, 10:41 AM

Is the band embossed with the Rolex brand, or is it just a Rolex buckle? The post isn't available anymore.

Silvio Mosiello · 29 July 2012, 10:43 AM

This is so not a problem in my eyes what so ever. I dont see how the band is counterfit at all. Its not claiming to be from Rolex. If thats not acceptable than i guess all nato straps shouldnt be allowed to be sold with Rolex's either

Edit didnt know the band had Rolex stamped into it. The prosecution dismisses all charges

cajunron · 29 July 2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalip

The listing has been removed.

The band is not aftermarket ... It is fake as it has "rolex" stamped into it.

This is against Trf rules. We do not accept any fake parts.

Good job Brother.

dalip · 29 July 2012, 10:56 AM

The band has "Rolex" embossed into it. There is no confusion or blurred lines here.

It was posted as 'aftermarket' when it is in actual fact a 'fake'.

I am waiting for an explanation via PM from the seller.

Depending on that we will decide on any further action.

Let me remind everyone that if you knowingly post any fake parts on this forum we will have zero tolerance.

Silvio Mosiello · 29 July 2012, 11:01 AM

Good job Dalip! Thats why your a moderator and im not!

28 July 2012, 11:25 PM	#1
pandrew6l 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California Posts: 528	DD with "Aftermarket" Band DD with "Aftermarket" Rolex signed band, is this up to the Forum standard ? https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=245733

29 July 2012, 12:29 AM	#3
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	The seller has correctly advised it is on an aftermarket band in his listing. Consider his price as if you're buying head only - the aftermarket band can be changed out or left off if you like. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

29 July 2012, 10:12 AM	#7
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	The seller has provided full dislcosure. What is the problem here? __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

29 July 2012, 10:30 AM	#11
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,872	IN MY OPINION, his disclosure that watch has aftermarket band is okay. A leather band is considered a 'consumable'. or an item easily and quickly used and/or replaced. The thing I have issue with, is that if said band is made by someone other than ROLEX, and it has ROLEX insignia or the WORD Rolex on it, that is copyright infringement and considered counterfeit. IMO. __________________

29 July 2012, 10:39 AM	#14
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	The listing has been removed. The band is not aftermarket ... It is fake as it has "rolex" stamped into it. This is against Trf rules. We do not accept any fake parts. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

28 July 2012, 11:32 PM	#2
NYMike "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: NYC Watch: 16610,1675, 116518 Posts: 363	I don't see this as the biggest issue. It's a disposable band - rolex or not. Once someone wears a leather band it's value drops to 0 - regardless of who makes it. This one looks to be an ok watch, with a recent service.

29 July 2012, 01:16 AM	#4
Too Old 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: Bucks, UK Posts: 1,096	When aftermarket is used to describe an item on the forum I have always taken that to mean not a Rolex made item. Anything with the Rolex logo or name on is therefore counterfeit. If I am right then the watch in question has the logo on the Buckle and Rolex on the inside, and could be described as counterfeit. If this watch was on ebay it would be in the watch out section for this reason! Of course I could be wrong!!!

29 July 2012, 10:23 AM	#10
Silvio Mosiello "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Matthew Location: Miami/NY Watch: the shoes. Posts: 3,482	No.

29 July 2012, 10:30 AM	#12
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I would be perfectly ok with this. Straps don't last forever and it is not unusual to keep the hardware and get some other type of strap.

29 July 2012, 10:41 AM	#15
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	Is the band embossed with the Rolex brand, or is it just a Rolex buckle? The post isn't available anymore.

29 July 2012, 10:43 AM	#16
Silvio Mosiello "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Matthew Location: Miami/NY Watch: the shoes. Posts: 3,482	This is so not a problem in my eyes what so ever. I dont see how the band is counterfit at all. Its not claiming to be from Rolex. If thats not acceptable than i guess all nato straps shouldnt be allowed to be sold with Rolex's either Edit didnt know the band had Rolex stamped into it. The prosecution dismisses all charges

29 July 2012, 10:56 AM	#18
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	The band has "Rolex" embossed into it. There is no confusion or blurred lines here. It was posted as 'aftermarket' when it is in actual fact a 'fake'. I am waiting for an explanation via PM from the seller. Depending on that we will decide on any further action. Let me remind everyone that if you knowingly post any fake parts on this forum we will have zero tolerance. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

29 July 2012, 11:01 AM	#19
Silvio Mosiello "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Matthew Location: Miami/NY Watch: the shoes. Posts: 3,482	Good job Dalip! Thats why your a moderator and im not!

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