Milgauss GV Authenticity

[rodolfolascano]

Hi,
I recently purchased a used Milgauss GV, but I have a couple concerns....
The watch doesn't have Rolex Papers, but instead has a Mayors Retail replacement certificate.
The watch looks perfect to me, but there is a couple of things that concern me.
One is the reference number on the Mayors papers; it reads: 2936417, and I suppose it should read: 116400V... Now, I took the bracelet off and between the lugs, at the 12 o' clock position, on the case reads: 116400, but no "V" at the end.
The serial number matches the certificate, but it's found in the inner side of the case, at the 6 o' clock position, but nothing on the outside between the lugs.
I also would like to know, if it is clockwise or counterclockwise the way you should wind it at position #2 (to be charged)..... This one looks like is counterclockwise, because clockwise it offers some resistance and I am afraid to force it and break it, but somebody told me that it should be clockwise....

I would appreciate some help on this matter, before having to send it to Rolex to authenticate it, since I don't want to wait a couple months to get it back...

Thanks, a lot.
Rodolfo.

[JerseyGuy]

Hi there. It will not have a V next to 116400 on the case. The only place the serial number is is on the watch at 6. I have a 2011 model GV and when i wind it its done in position 1. Unscrew to first position.

[The GMT Master]

The reference number might be an internal stock number for Mayors. Call them to clarify. As above, the winding position is the first position you get when you unscrew the crown, wind it clockwise (away from you). You should feel some resistance. Rolex no longer places a serial number on the outside of the case

[Tools]

The Mayors Certificate is of no value when determining either the present value of your watch, or if it is authentic or not. It is simply an interesting piece of paper.. Indeed, no paperwork ever authenticates a watch except one commissioned specifically by the owner at the time.

As mentioned there is no "V" in any model number inscription on the case, as there is no LN or LB for the black or the white either..

All Rolex watches wind in a clockwise direction of the crown when it is first unscrewed from the tube. (1st position) You will feel some resistance since you are winding up a spring. If it is already fully wound it may seem somewhat stiff, whereas turning it counterclockwise it will not offer any resistance because it does nothing in that direction.. If you feel that you may break something because of that resistance there may be something wrong with the watch internally.

There are plenty of other ways to "authenticate" the watch without sending it to an RSC, which could be quite costly. In the US, the RSC doesn't offer an "authentication" service.

Your watch looks fine based on your photographs..

[MonBK]

Since Mayors are an official Rolex AD I seriously doubt that they would sell something fake.

[mrbill2mrbill2]

If you purchased the watch at Mayors and have a sales receipt from Mayors you're good.

If you don't have a receipt from Mayors it's a different story.

Wait a minute - the Mayors paper is from 3 Sept 2010! Without a receipt in the same timeframe the paper is questionable. I'm not questioning Mayors - they are huge and would do nothing to jeopardize their reputation - just the time difference.

[mrbill2mrbill2]

Originally Posted by Tools

The Mayors Certificate is of no value when determining either the present value of your watch, or if it is authentic or not. It is simply an interesting piece of paper.. Indeed, no paperwork ever authenticates a watch except one commissioned specifically by the owner at the time.

As mentioned there is no "V" in any model number inscription on the case, as there is no LN or LB for the black or the white either..

All Rolex watches wind in a clockwise direction of the crown when it is first unscrewed from the tube. (1st position) You will feel some resistance since you are winding up a spring. If it is already fully wound it may seem somewhat stiff, whereas turning it counterclockwise it will not offer any resistance because it does nothing in that direction.. If you feel that you may break something because of that resistance there may be something wrong with the watch internally.

There are plenty of other ways to "authenticate" the watch without sending it to an RSC, which could be quite costly. In the US, the RSC doesn't offer an "authentication" service.

Your watch looks fine based on your photographs..

You can send the watch to a RSC for a service estimate. They will let you know if it is authentic or not.

[Silvio Mosiello]

Your watch is fine end of story.Enjoy it now!

[Tri-Tip]

Not to cheapen anything, but does the Milgauss have enough of a following to justify someone producing counterfeits?

[redwolfoz]

Originally Posted by Tri-Tip

Not to cheapen anything, but does the Milgauss have enough of a following to justify someone producing counterfeits?

I don't know about higher end fakes, but it is popular as a lower end knock off. A friend brought one back from Vietnam. The really interesting thing is that these ones don't bother to get the green crystal right. It looks like clear glass that someone has take a green Artline to the edge of. You can spot them as fakes from a mile away.

[Z-Sub]

Originally Posted by Tri-Tip

Not to cheapen anything, but does the Milgauss have enough of a following to justify someone producing counterfeits?

yes there are several seen over the last few years.

to OP, your watch looks good and enjoy it.

[jphj012]

Looking at the pictures, the GV looks authentic to me. BUT, some of the internal parts might be an aftermarket. If I were you, I would send it to RSC so I can sleep in peace.

[DJJon]

Originally Posted by Tri-Tip

Not to cheapen anything, but does the Milgauss have enough of a following to justify someone producing counterfeits?

Yes. Sadly they do.

[InTime]

from the pics, they look real.

[Investr]

Looks fine, enjoy

[franklin]

Looks fine to me. Enjoy!

[Matt93]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Rolex no longer places a serial number on the outside of the case

Do you know when Rolex started this? I have a V serial black Milgauss and it has the serial between the lugs.

The GV in question doesn't ring any alarm bells with me

[crowncollection]

Watch is good imho , enjoy. I can see nothing that makes me think it's fake, however, they are not the most detailed photos, take some of the reference numbers and clasp engraving for us it helps you get a more definitive answer from the forum members regards

[Singslinger]

Originally Posted by jphj012

Looking at the pictures, the GV looks authentic to me. BUT, some of the internal parts might be an aftermarket. If I were you, I would send it to RSC so I can sleep in peace.

Sound advice.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Since Mayors are an official Rolex AD I seriously doubt that they would sell something fake.

The paper is dated 2010 and a plain copy- there is nothing to indicate that this paper is authentic or even original to this watch.

I do agree that the watch looks legit though..

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by Matt93

Do you know when Rolex started this? I have a V serial black Milgauss and it has the serial between the lugs.

The GV in question doesn't ring any alarm bells with me

Shortly after they introduced the engraved rehaut ring - there was a period of time when both the outside of the case and the rehaut ring had the serial number, which I think will be the case on your watch

[rodolfolascano]

Thanks for all the replies....I went yesterday to Mayors and they checked the papers in the computer and it all matches. That reference number is their own inventory number. The system showed the same dates as the paper and the same serial and reference number....
Now I can sleep in peace!!!.....

[mrbill2mrbill2]

Originally Posted by rodolfolascano

Thanks for all the replies....I went yesterday to Mayors and they checked the papers in the computer and it all matches. That reference number is their own inventory number. The system showed the same dates as the paper and the same serial and reference number....
Now I can sleep in peace!!!.....

Good deal. Now relax!

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by rodolfolascano

Thanks for all the replies....I went yesterday to Mayors and they checked the papers in the computer and it all matches. That reference number is their own inventory number. The system showed the same dates as the paper and the same serial and reference number....
Now I can sleep in peace!!!.....

Good To hear, congrats and enjoy it!