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Old 30 August 2012, 11:06 AM   #1
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Bamford & Sons - Black Rolex's

I don't see Rolex offering a black watch. Do the watches from Bamford & Sons hold their value? I really like the blacked out look.

The link is here...

http://professionalwatches.com/2008/...omized_by.html

What would be a good price on only like this ?

[img]http://professionalwatches.com/rolex-submariner-black-thumb-450x331.jpg[img]
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Old 30 August 2012, 11:17 AM   #2
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personally i like it..but whatever the price is offering from them is not going to be cheap..
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Old 30 August 2012, 12:04 PM   #3
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Love em blacked out. But as a flipper, can't do it. I'll lose too much on resale. But I really do love em.
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Old 30 August 2012, 12:06 PM   #4
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If I had LOTS of money to "waste" I'd buy two!
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Old 30 August 2012, 01:04 PM   #5
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Bamford & Sons is a UK based clothiers who started customizing Rolex watches a decade ago with PVD coatings..

They then charge 2 to 3 times the MSRP (the Daytona is over 30k for example).

I think it unlikely that a PVD paintjob at this price-point will retain it's value over time..
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Old 30 August 2012, 02:25 PM   #6
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makes me wanna get a sub just for this

There is a group in NY that does really good PVD coating,
I like their AP PVD coatings, looks really nice
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Old 4 September 2012, 12:33 AM   #7
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Titan black

I had a really good experience using these guys. Very helpful and reasonable.

www.titanblack.co.uk

I am not the only one seemingly:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=241301

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Old 4 September 2012, 12:51 AM   #8
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i like the way it looks but wouldn't justify the extra $$$.
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Old 4 September 2012, 12:53 AM   #9
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I don't see Rolex offering a black watch. Do the watches from Bamford & Sons hold their value? I really like the blacked out look.

The link is here...

http://professionalwatches.com/2008/...omized_by.html

What would be a good price on only like this ?

[img]http://professionalwatches.com/rolex-submariner-black-thumb-450x331.jpg[img]
I would doubt it and they will have a very limited market if you ever wanted to sell, plus Rolex themselves would not ever service the watch.
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It's simply an individual preference. DLC/PVD coating gives a Rolex watch an entirely different angle and style.
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Old 4 September 2012, 01:38 AM   #11
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Not a fan of black watches. They look like hell after just one scratch


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Old 4 September 2012, 02:49 AM   #12
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If you want a watch with PVD coating, why not buy a watch from a brand that offers them? I think it is flat out silly to pvd or dlc a Rolex.
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Old 4 September 2012, 02:58 AM   #13
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If you want a watch with PVD coating, why not buy a watch from a brand that offers them? I think it is flat out silly to pvd or dlc a Rolex.
You make a very good point, I agree.
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Old 4 September 2012, 04:04 AM   #14
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I would NOT have it for free if I have to wear it every day. As padi56 said, ROLEX will be thrilled when they see it......


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Old 4 September 2012, 04:41 AM   #15
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I would imagine it's like selling a modified car. Unless you can find a buy who is truly in love with it, you are likely getting a hit.
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Old 4 September 2012, 05:08 AM   #16
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They then charge 2 to 3 times the MSRP (the Daytona is over 30k for example).
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I think it unlikely that a PVD paintjob at this price-point will retain it's value over time..
Agree
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Old 4 September 2012, 09:15 AM   #17
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The resale of these pvd rolexs is almost non existent. As said before the market is very limited as to who would want these watches making resale very hard. I personally wouldn't buy one ( I am bit of a Rolex purist), but if you want one buy one just for fun to keep, but don't buy one with the hopes of reselling it.
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Old 4 September 2012, 09:24 AM   #18
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I know a guy who bought a murdered out DSSD. It is not scratch proof and you can see scratches that look SS. IMHO it looks like garbage after a few years.
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Old 4 September 2012, 09:55 AM   #19
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Poor investment and resale value, and PVD watches are usually overpriced, they sell basically because they are "unique"
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Old 4 September 2012, 01:10 PM   #20
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I don't see the point & for silly money at that. Tried to talk a friend out of getting one but he was adamant and ordered a blacked out GMT2C without the bracelet but with a handful of Natos thrown in. Different strokes I suppose.
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Old 4 September 2012, 02:29 PM   #21
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Here's your photo link. You forgot the / at the end.

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Old 4 September 2012, 02:31 PM   #22
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I like the look but due to the price and the likely inability to resell at a reasonable price down the road, I would go for something like a Steinhart in PVD. A lot less invested for the same look and who cares about what it would resell for.
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Old 4 September 2012, 02:52 PM   #23
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Old 4 September 2012, 03:43 PM   #24
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I love DLC finishes on rolexes, but I couldn't see a DLC holding its value compared to a normal rolex
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Old 4 September 2012, 03:57 PM   #25
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Oh boy.

The weekly PVD thread ;-)

Well...I think PVDd Rolex watches look like Doo Doo.

These are truly for the guy with too much money. When I think of all the watches I would rather buy than a butchered classic Rolex.
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Old 4 September 2012, 05:11 PM   #26
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I dig them............but alas I will never have one....my ex-wives took all my money.

I see a SS watch & I want it painted black.
No SS anymore I want them to turn black.
I see a line of watches & they're all painted black.
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Old 4 September 2012, 06:55 PM   #27
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That black Sub looks bloody sensational! Very stealth-like...not sure I would buy one unless I can determine whether the craftsmanship and integrity of the original watch has been compromised or not.
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Old 4 September 2012, 07:19 PM   #28
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I previously understood that one could only buy DLC watches "brand new" i.e. Bamford get them new, coat them and sell them. There is however a service in LA that will service your watch and they will DLC it as well, at a cost of course. They quoted 3-5 weeks turnaround.

Have a look at the DLC/PVD video on their site.

I am thinking about doing my 14060m like this.

http://www.timeandgems.com/dlc-pvd-watches
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Old 4 September 2012, 07:28 PM   #29
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I don't think they hold their value at all. Rolexes that are heavily modified like this typically lose their value in the general market. However, there are a small group of people that absolutely love these mods and will pay top dollar for them. So, in the end, it really depends who you sell it to.
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Old 4 September 2012, 08:39 PM   #30
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looks bloody awful
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