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Flagman1 · 25 November 2012, 02:25 PM

To All - I was hoping that some members might be able to answer a few questions I have. In "about" 1995 I saw a Rolex Perpetual, No Date, Black Face w/Gold stick, Fluted Bezel and Oyster w/gold bracelet. I just had to have that watch but the checkbook said "No". Now that times have changed - I have looked at the present Rolex web page and have found it is no longer avaiable. If I'm looking correctly it appears that the closest would be the Datejust II. I just really don't care for the magnified date - but I would be ok with it as long it had the black gold stick face (which I can not verify either) Could a Perpetual be ordered w/o the date with the other choices I had mentioned? I really don't know if Rolex does such special orders. If so, is there a major charge to do so?. I guess "I like what I like" and was looking for a little advise from someone who may have experienced the same. I was looking for something new (no used) and with the proper factory documention. Any further info on the serial number significance would be appreicated. Thanks.

joe100 · 25 November 2012, 02:40 PM

The Rolex website is useless. It only lists a tiny fraction of the dials available.

Your modern options, closest to what you described, is the 116000 Oyster Perpetual, 36mm seen here:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=158654

Or

The Rolex AirKing 114200 at 34mm:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ghlight=114200

As for special orders, Rolex doesn't do this.

GradyPhilpott · 25 November 2012, 02:46 PM

It seems that you are rather confused as to the names of the models and the features they have.

For instance, every watch in the Oyster line is an Oyster Perpetual, as in the Oyster Perpetual Submariner, but there is also a model called just the Oyster Perpetual. For men, it is a 36mm watch on an Oyster bracelet, much like the DateJust, without the date.

I think you are talking about the model 116034 Oyster Perpetual with fluted bezel on a 70200 Oyster bracelet. There should be a number of dial choices available.

It retails for $6650US.

You might have to order one if your local AD doesn't have one in stock, but you won't have to pay extra. Your AD might require a deposit, however.

Here is an image from this site:

Flagman1 · 26 November 2012, 12:48 PM

Ok - Thanks guys!!! I'll check with an AD.

superdelsol · 26 November 2012, 01:02 PM

Hi Flagman1. It seems as though you are looking for a two tone, yellow gold and stainless steel no-date Oyster Perpetual. Rolex used to offer this model in a variety of sizes with the Oyster Bracelet and Fluted or Dome bezel. This model was discontinued sometime in the middle of the last decade, but you may be able to find one new old stock, or pre-owned. This 34mm Ref. 14233M with blue stick dial belongs to my wife:

Flagman1 · 27 November 2012, 11:30 AM

BINGO - BINGO - BINGO !!!! Thanks a million!!!! That's it other than the blue face. And in a Men's. WOW. Thanks Again.

25 November 2012, 02:25 PM	#1
Flagman1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3	A few questions.................. To All - I was hoping that some members might be able to answer a few questions I have. In "about" 1995 I saw a Rolex Perpetual, No Date, Black Face w/Gold stick, Fluted Bezel and Oyster w/gold bracelet. I just had to have that watch but the checkbook said "No". Now that times have changed - I have looked at the present Rolex web page and have found it is no longer avaiable. If I'm looking correctly it appears that the closest would be the Datejust II. I just really don't care for the magnified date - but I would be ok with it as long it had the black gold stick face (which I can not verify either) Could a Perpetual be ordered w/o the date with the other choices I had mentioned? I really don't know if Rolex does such special orders. If so, is there a major charge to do so?. I guess "I like what I like" and was looking for a little advise from someone who may have experienced the same. I was looking for something new (no used) and with the proper factory documention. Any further info on the serial number significance would be appreicated. Thanks.

25 November 2012, 02:40 PM	#2
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	The Rolex website is useless. It only lists a tiny fraction of the dials available. Your modern options, closest to what you described, is the 116000 Oyster Perpetual, 36mm seen here: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=158654 Or The Rolex AirKing 114200 at 34mm: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ghlight=114200 As for special orders, Rolex doesn't do this. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

25 November 2012, 02:46 PM	#3
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	It seems that you are rather confused as to the names of the models and the features they have. For instance, every watch in the Oyster line is an Oyster Perpetual, as in the Oyster Perpetual Submariner, but there is also a model called just the Oyster Perpetual. For men, it is a 36mm watch on an Oyster bracelet, much like the DateJust, without the date. I think you are talking about the model 116034 Oyster Perpetual with fluted bezel on a 70200 Oyster bracelet. There should be a number of dial choices available. It retails for $6650US. You might have to order one if your local AD doesn't have one in stock, but you won't have to pay extra. Your AD might require a deposit, however. Here is an image from this site: Attached Images __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

26 November 2012, 01:02 PM	#5
superdelsol "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: Arizona, USA Watch: your 6. Posts: 388	Hi Flagman1. It seems as though you are looking for a two tone, yellow gold and stainless steel no-date Oyster Perpetual. Rolex used to offer this model in a variety of sizes with the Oyster Bracelet and Fluted or Dome bezel. This model was discontinued sometime in the middle of the last decade, but you may be able to find one new old stock, or pre-owned. This 34mm Ref. 14233M with blue stick dial belongs to my wife: __________________ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." Dr. Richard P. Feynman, Rogers Commission Report, Appendix F, 9 June 1986

26 November 2012, 12:48 PM	#4
Flagman1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3	Ok - Thanks guys!!! I'll check with an AD.

27 November 2012, 11:30 AM	#6
Flagman1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3	BINGO - BINGO - BINGO !!!! Thanks a million!!!! That's it other than the blue face. And in a Men's. WOW. Thanks Again.

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