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swils8610 · 19 February 2013, 08:27 AM

I'm torn between these two watches. The Panerai is the 9000 in house movement. Any advice? Thanks.

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xxthe_remedyxx · 19 February 2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by swils8610

I'm torn between these two watches. The Panerai is the 9000 in house movement. Any advice? Thanks.

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Explorer II all the way. The orange GMT hand is sweet. Wish they would have included a glidelock clasp and triplock crown, but it's still an awesome piece.

Cru Jones · 19 February 2013, 08:32 AM

First, posting here, be prepared for a landslide of "Rolex!!!" comments.

Second, one is a GMT and one isn't. If you like the GMT function, you should compare the 320 with the Explorer II. If you don't care about the GMT function, the 312 will save you some money.

Third, the 312 is pretty tall, so, if you haven't yet, try it on. It's not so much the 44 diameter as it is the height with the automatic 1950 cases.

Fourth, if you are anal about scratches, the finely brushed Explorer II bezel will mark much more than the 312's bezel.

Five, which do you like more?

nauticajoe · 19 February 2013, 08:33 AM

ExpII for me.

Good luck!

Tony1 · 19 February 2013, 08:46 AM

Exp II without looking back.

kilyung · 19 February 2013, 08:54 AM

312

jimbones43 · 19 February 2013, 09:03 AM

Pick one and you'll be good to go!

boogiebot · 19 February 2013, 09:04 AM

i have to got Exp 2 on this one. The 1950 case and the domed plexi glass make the 312 just too big IMO.

Rich2putt · 19 February 2013, 09:16 AM

Exp ll hands down

hitman23 · 19 February 2013, 09:18 AM

If you consider the 233, then that kills the exp2. and I have the exp2.

swils8610 · 19 February 2013, 09:20 AM

Is Panerai quality on par with Rolex?

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Trouble15 · 19 February 2013, 09:22 AM

Explorer II without a doubt. I'm not a fan of Panerai.

bscepter · 19 February 2013, 09:24 AM

no contest. the explorer.

GEO_79 · 19 February 2013, 09:32 AM

Exp ii

thomaspp · 19 February 2013, 09:36 AM

Are we talking about the new 42mm exp 2? If so explorer, if not I might consider the Pam.

Le Chef · 19 February 2013, 09:42 AM

312, unless you can swing for a 233.

CoachRolexRyan · 19 February 2013, 09:45 AM

Exp 2 if we're talking one of the new ones! Good luck, both are fantastic watches!

melons · 19 February 2013, 10:45 AM

E2 hands down. The 312 is nearly 18mm tall, and for some becomes difficult to wear after the newness has worn off. Also, Rolex build quality trumps Panerai. I'm a huge Panerai fan, but IMHO, the new E2 is the best of the new Rolexes. YMMV.

koz123 · 19 February 2013, 10:47 AM

312 :)

AK797 · 19 February 2013, 10:48 AM

Ony PAMs Id prefer to Expy are the submersibles, 243 or 187.

Polemic · 19 February 2013, 10:51 AM

Explorer 2 all the way.

sea-dweller · 19 February 2013, 11:21 AM

Explorer II

bottom of the ninth · 19 February 2013, 11:23 AM

Both are nice but the EXP II would be my pick, The 312 is a tall/thick watch.

p_mcgee · 19 February 2013, 11:24 AM

312 if it fits comfortably on your wrist. Exp II looks nice in pictures, but for me not too interesting in person.

Maxfli · 19 February 2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble15

Explorer II without a doubt. I'm not a fan of Panerai.

What he said.

rolex75216 · 19 February 2013, 12:39 PM

Explorer II is one of the best built watches in the world.

joe100 · 19 February 2013, 12:49 PM

Explorer.

Jareddad · 19 February 2013, 01:09 PM

Of course you are asking a Rolex forum which watch members prefer so naturally you should get more votes for the Explorer. I own several PAMs and Rolexes. Love them both. Panerais are definitely more rare and I think owners are even more passionate about them. Pretty much everyone who owns them is really into them and is very knowledgable about them. As for workmanship, IMO my PAMs are as well built if not better built than my Rolexes. Ultimately, it's which one you love, our opinions shouldn't matter at all. Whenever I have this dilemma, I eventually buy them both!

If I had to vote, I will go contrarian and vote for the 312. Either way, great watches.

Tony1 · 19 February 2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rolex75216

Explorer II is one of the best built watches in the world.

snowpea · 19 February 2013, 02:49 PM

Depend on which one you like more, they are both great watches. Which ever you choose now you will feel like you should of chose the other one, eventually you will get both. So just pick one and enjoy it.

19 February 2013, 08:27 AM	#1
swils8610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,211	Rolex Explorer 2 or Panerai 312..... I'm torn between these two watches. The Panerai is the 9000 in house movement. Any advice? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 February 2013, 09:16 AM	#9
Rich2putt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Rich Location: MA Watch: TOG, Exp ll white Posts: 549	Exp ll hands down __________________ The late, great Jackie Gleason once said, "the greatest waste of money is not spending it".

19 February 2013, 09:24 AM	#13
bscepter "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Patrick Location: Omaha Watch: 16610 Submariner Posts: 948	no contest. the explorer. __________________ 2009 16610 Submariner Date 1971 1601 Datejust 1966 Omega Seamaster 1965 Vulcain Voyager Chronograph

19 February 2013, 09:36 AM	#15
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,137	Are we talking about the new 42mm exp 2? If so explorer, if not I might consider the Pam. __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

19 February 2013, 09:45 AM	#17
CoachRolexRyan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Coach Location: Boston Watch: Rolex Deep Sea Posts: 1,297	Exp 2 if we're talking one of the new ones! Good luck, both are fantastic watches! __________________ DSSD, PAM 320, PAM 170, BR03-92

19 February 2013, 08:32 AM	#3
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,302	First, posting here, be prepared for a landslide of "Rolex!!!" comments. Second, one is a GMT and one isn't. If you like the GMT function, you should compare the 320 with the Explorer II. If you don't care about the GMT function, the 312 will save you some money. Third, the 312 is pretty tall, so, if you haven't yet, try it on. It's not so much the 44 diameter as it is the height with the automatic 1950 cases. Fourth, if you are anal about scratches, the finely brushed Explorer II bezel will mark much more than the 312's bezel. Five, which do you like more?

19 February 2013, 08:33 AM	#4
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	ExpII for me. Good luck!

19 February 2013, 08:46 AM	#5
Tony1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Bucharest Watch: me Posts: 889	Exp II without looking back.

19 February 2013, 08:54 AM	#6
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	312

19 February 2013, 09:03 AM	#7
jimbones43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Jim Location: Earth Posts: 1,067	Pick one and you'll be good to go!

19 February 2013, 09:04 AM	#8
boogiebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: canada Watch: me post! Posts: 3,804	i have to got Exp 2 on this one. The 1950 case and the domed plexi glass make the 312 just too big IMO.

19 February 2013, 09:18 AM	#10
hitman23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: ny Posts: 765	If you consider the 233, then that kills the exp2. and I have the exp2.

19 February 2013, 09:20 AM	#11
swils8610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,211	Is Panerai quality on par with Rolex? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 February 2013, 09:22 AM	#12
Trouble15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: USA Watch: A few Posts: 8,884	Explorer II without a doubt. I'm not a fan of Panerai.

19 February 2013, 09:32 AM	#14
GEO_79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Georgian Location: Constanta_Romania Watch: 216570 Polar Posts: 904	Exp ii

19 February 2013, 09:42 AM	#16
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	312, unless you can swing for a 233.

19 February 2013, 10:45 AM	#18
melons "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: GMT -5 Watch: Rolex/Panerai Posts: 991	E2 hands down. The 312 is nearly 18mm tall, and for some becomes difficult to wear after the newness has worn off. Also, Rolex build quality trumps Panerai. I'm a huge Panerai fan, but IMHO, the new E2 is the best of the new Rolexes. YMMV.

19 February 2013, 10:47 AM	#19
koz123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: NYC Posts: 445	312 :) __________________ Instagram- Watchwithme

19 February 2013, 10:48 AM	#20
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Ony PAMs Id prefer to Expy are the submersibles, 243 or 187.

19 February 2013, 10:51 AM	#21
Polemic "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Turkey Watch: 116610 LN Posts: 356	Explorer 2 all the way. Last edited by Polemic; 19 February 2013 at 10:51 AM.. Reason: Typo

19 February 2013, 11:21 AM	#22
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Explorer II

19 February 2013, 11:23 AM	#23
bottom of the ninth "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Trent Location: Good old IOWA Watch: Daytona Black Posts: 1,255	Both are nice but the EXP II would be my pick, The 312 is a tall/thick watch. __________________ "Baseball? It's just a game-as simple as a ball and bat. Yet, as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, business- and sometimes even religion." Ernie Harwell

19 February 2013, 11:24 AM	#24
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	312 if it fits comfortably on your wrist. Exp II looks nice in pictures, but for me not too interesting in person.

19 February 2013, 12:39 PM	#26
rolex75216 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 2,008	Explorer II is one of the best built watches in the world.

19 February 2013, 12:49 PM	#27
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Explorer. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

19 February 2013, 01:09 PM	#28
Jareddad "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 326	Of course you are asking a Rolex forum which watch members prefer so naturally you should get more votes for the Explorer. I own several PAMs and Rolexes. Love them both. Panerais are definitely more rare and I think owners are even more passionate about them. Pretty much everyone who owns them is really into them and is very knowledgable about them. As for workmanship, IMO my PAMs are as well built if not better built than my Rolexes. Ultimately, it's which one you love, our opinions shouldn't matter at all. Whenever I have this dilemma, I eventually buy them both! If I had to vote, I will go contrarian and vote for the 312. Either way, great watches.

19 February 2013, 02:49 PM	#30
snowpea "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Steven Location: Jazoom Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 1,092	Depend on which one you like more, they are both great watches. Which ever you choose now you will feel like you should of chose the other one, eventually you will get both. So just pick one and enjoy it. __________________

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