Rolex cal 4130 Daytona vs Breitling B-01 Chronomat

[nick c]

Originally Posted by bayerische

+1.

Breitling is not for me.

+2

[AJMarcus]

Whatever you do if you go with the B please leave the diamonds on a ring!

[~JJ]

Haha, I don't understand most of the responses... It's as if no one read the op. All of the reviews that I've read suggest the B01 movement has been meeting expectations in terms of reliability and accuracy. Breitling has a long history in the chronograph arena and who cares about resale value as: 1) you are purchasing for yourself and not the secondary market, 2) it's already 50% off, and 3) modern day mass produced watches will not become collectors items (rolex, breitling, iwc, etc). Also, you already have a Daytona (not understanding why some are suggesting to get another, perhaps they are referring to a vintage reference), so variety is always nice and not to mention you will get a date function. As always its personal preference and I think you already made the correct decision... IMO!

[darwin95]

Originally Posted by ~JJ

Haha, I don't understand most of the responses... It's as if no one read the op. All of the reviews that I've read suggest the B01 movement has been meeting expectations in terms of reliability and accuracy. Breitling has a long history in the chronograph arena and who cares about resale value as: 1) you are purchasing for yourself and not the secondary market, 2) it's already 50% off, and 3) modern day mass produced watches will not become collectors items (rolex, breitling, iwc, etc). Also, you already have a Daytona (not understanding why some are suggesting to get another, perhaps they are referring to a vintage reference), so variety is always nice and not to mention you will get a date function. As always its personal preference and I think you already made the correct decision... IMO!

I agree. I don't understand why people have hard time understanding original question. maybe the title misleads. anyway, being a guy myself who own collection with only one dominating brand(of course, Rolex), I would love to have variety. My watch 'fever' started with Rolex only about three years ago and I never had to chance to look somewhere else. This thread actually got me starting to look at other brand like B. From what I read here in this thread, The B's in-house movement seems solid and reliable enough to jump in (especially 50% retail) I would go for it. and thanks for bring out a nice movement.

[AJMarcus]

If you ask this question in the Rolex Forum expect most to prefer the Daytona. If you want more positive responses about the Bretling chrono then ask it on the Breitling side. But honestly, and I realize I'm biased, the Rolex in house movement in the Daytona 4130 is bar far the best chrono movement probably ever made. And that is really from more than just my opinion. But we all know we don't just buy our watches for the technical speficiations. Enjoy the new B....it's a great looking watch!

[mcorliss]

Originally Posted by AK797

The B01 is my fav Breitling, great mvmnt, dial detailing and comfortable solid bracelet. If you like the 43mm size, and Dayts 39mm is too small for a chrono I think, then go for it, at 40-50% off msrp it is tremendous value for just so much watch.

Have had at least one Breitling in my collection for about 14-15 years. They are great watches and the haters are misguided. It is a different target than the typical Rolex buyer: BMW M versus Mercedes E Class. Breitlings are a little more exciting and aggressive in the styling department, but as you can see not for everyone.

Personally, I'd go for it if you are looking for a different sort of look than your existing Rolex.

BTW...pic of mine fresh back from regular service after 8 years of totally reliable timekeeping. Sent out to service just because I wanted to, not because it was losing time. Has been the most accurate watch I have ever owned, hands down!

[MNDZA]

I have the larger GMT Breitling B04 and, although I love it, the sub dials are horrible. The little hands don't line up with the tick marks for the minutes and the hours aren't properly zeroed. The Daytona I just picked up is flawless though.

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[Xk500]

A TT Rolex would whip a TT Breitling any day. (Sadly I hate the brand Breitling, I think the brand is like Guess as Rolex is to Dunhill. So this is a one sided opinion. Sorry)

[Ardalan]

Daytona

[mcorliss]

Originally Posted by Xk500

A TT Rolex would whip a TT Breitling any day. (Sadly I hate the brand Breitling, I think the brand is like Guess as Rolex is to Dunhill. So this is a one sided opinion. Sorry)

Rolex is a lot better these days, but knowing what we all know of the prior DateJust timekeeping accuracy and the laughably cheap, prior hollow oyster bracelets, you've got to be kidding. Seriously...Guess to Dunhill?? All my bracelets have been solid for years on my Breitling, and the timekeeping was definitely far superior. Kind of makes me chuckle when I think of Rolex writing "Superlative..." anything on the dial. Recently bought a 16610LV because I liked the look of the bezel, but sold in about a week due to how disappointing the bracelet was. Now that felt like a Guess!

I left the brand in the very late '90s due to my disappointment quality/price ratio, and am finally back in 2013 in a major way, but just because of it, I'll never crap on a Breitling like some sort of blind Rolex Fanboy. They are very good watches, as are the new Omegas...maybe just not your taste.

I think everyone should own at least one at sometime in there life, just like a Panerai.

[Xk500]

Na I ant a Rolex fanboy (born in late 1980's) but like I said my view is very One sided. I just don't like how it (I can't put it into words) I saw one on someone (again older and more successful than myself.)

And I think the pics are direct compeditor to the Rolex Daytona, Omega Speedmaster and Tag Heure Monico.

Let's say the Breatling B01 cost 7k with discount and on that 50% off 3k I would rather add a little more get a brand new Tag Heure Monico over that. (I am actually thinking of buying a tag XD)

But then again everything I said was probably due to my age thus lack of experience.

[SWISSAHOLICS]

Great inputs guys. I currently have 4 Rolex timepieces in my collection including a Daytona which most of you are ignoring to read. Lol. I think the built quality can be very much compared to that of Rolex. As far movements are concerned, I guess time will tell for me personally which one seems more accurate in the long run. My attraction towards the B01 was purely based on in-house caliber movement and no this particular model does not contain any ETA parts and that has been verified by several sources. Breitling has stepped up their game since 2009 and up until Rolex changed their subs to ceramic bezels and updated clasps, I feel the old Rolex subs and GMTs fell cheap due to the thin metal clasps and aluminum bezel inserts. I personally own a 16613 and it's a night and day difference to the new 116613 if you compare built quality. I just feel many users have a stereotypical view of Breitling whereas its been around since 1884 if you want to discuss history. But now that they have developed their own in house movements just like Rolex, I feel at least on addition like a B01 will be worthy to add to my collection. And I am sure it won't disappoint. I know it's a a rolex forum but the view should be a from a much broader perspective. For those who don't know the B01, do a little research and it may surprise you how comparable it is to a 4130. Once again, I have never said one is better than the other; just wanted opinions and thoughts in the B01. Choosing Daytona or B01 was not the question as I already own a Daytona and plan to keep it in my collection. Happy Saturday guys.

[mcorliss]

You are not making a mistake. After picking up a few more Rolex and Panerai models I am pining for, I may very well update my Chronomat to a Chronomat 41 (with B01) myself.

Good luck with your Breitling!

[watchwatcher]

Thanks for an interesting thread, OP. I too have "flirted" with non Rolex brands in my collection, but i will qualify that by saying i have never had a Breitling.

It does seem like I am always coming back to Rolex, and they get the overwhelming majority of my wrist time, however, for whatever that means. I do think they are impressively styled timepieces. I had my eye on this exact model (in SS), LE with red hands because something about that combo drives me nuts, and if you go Daytona to get that, well, you pretty much have to go WG which means major cash, while the Breitling was about 5k, so you do the math.

Anyway, let us know what you think and post a lot of pics!

[SWISSAHOLICS]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Thanks for an interesting thread, OP. I too have "flirted" with non Rolex brands in my collection, but i will qualify that by saying i have never had a Breitling.

It does seem like I am always coming back to Rolex, and they get the overwhelming majority of my wrist time, however, for whatever that means. I do think they are impressively styled timepieces. I had my eye on this exact model (in SS), LE with red hands because something about that combo drives me nuts, and if you go Daytona to get that, well, you pretty much have to go WG which means major cash, while the Breitling was about 5k, so you do the math.

Anyway, let us know what you think and post a lot of pics!

Larry, I will definitely post pics once it's in my hands....can't wait

[cffluntouch]

I personally have 3 Breitlings: Crosswind, Navitimer, and Bentley, and 2 Rolex subs. I think for what you will be paying for the Breitling you will be in good shape for resale. I also believe the Breitling can peacefully coexist in your collection with your Rolex. I personally love the bracelets on Breitlings chronometer models like the one you showed. Enjoy the variety and go for it!

[AK797]

Breitling bracelets, such as Pilot or Pro 2 are far superior to Rolex and frankly any other brand except maybe AP, but with the new Oysters with glidelock Rolex are at least back in the same league. As for case fit and finish I think they are at least on a par with Rolex but the intricate dial detailing, best demonstrated on the B01/44 is quite frankly beautiful and breathtaking, beyond any sport Rolex I can think of and I have a Subc, and something again AP would be proud of.

Personally I think when people say Hublots are most like APs, they are wrong, I think Breitlings are.

[mcorliss]

The picture I posted of my 8-10 year old ChronoCockpit was right after I got it back from Breitling's factory refurbishment process. It is spectacularly reconditioned. I used this watch as my daily beater and the difference between the before and after is incredible. It is definitely a seriously robust bracelet, yet almost jewelry-like. Good luck!

[SWISSAHOLICS]

Originally Posted by AK797

Breitling bracelets, such as Pilot or Pro 2 are far superior to Rolex and frankly any other brand except maybe AP, but with the new Oysters with glidelock Rolex are at least back in the same league. As for case fit and finish I think they are at least on a par with Rolex but the intricate dial detailing, best demonstrated on the B01/44 is quite frankly beautiful and breathtaking, beyond any sport Rolex I can think of and I have a Subc, and something again AP would be proud of.

Personally I think when people say Hublots are most like APs, they are wrong, I think Breitlings are.

I 100% agree with you Neil.....I too feel the pilot bracelets are better than Rolex but the dial detailing along with anti-reflective coating on both sides is a big plus for me I just hopefully post some pics Wednesday

[SWISSAHOLICS]

I meant to say above that I "should" hopefully post some pics Wednesday

[improviz]

Originally Posted by SWISSAHOLICS

Great inputs guys. I currently have 4 Rolex timepieces in my collection including a Daytona which most of you are ignoring to read. Lol. I think the built quality can be very much compared to that of Rolex. As far movements are concerned, I guess time will tell for me personally which one seems more accurate in the long run. My attraction towards the B01 was purely based on in-house caliber movement and no this particular model does not contain any ETA parts and that has been verified by several sources. Breitling has stepped up their game since 2009 and up until Rolex changed their subs to ceramic bezels and updated clasps, I feel the old Rolex subs and GMTs fell cheap due to the thin metal clasps and aluminum bezel inserts. I personally own a 16613 and it's a night and day difference to the new 116613 if you compare built quality. I just feel many users have a stereotypical view of Breitling whereas its been around since 1884 if you want to discuss history. But now that they have developed their own in house movements just like Rolex, I feel at least on addition like a B01 will be worthy to add to my collection. And I am sure it won't disappoint. I know it's a a rolex forum but the view should be a from a much broader perspective. For those who don't know the B01, do a little research and it may surprise you how comparable it is to a 4130. Once again, I have never said one is better than the other; just wanted opinions and thoughts in the B01. Choosing Daytona or B01 was not the question as I already own a Daytona and plan to keep it in my collection. Happy Saturday guys.

In fact if I'm not mistaken, Breitling hired a number of people who had worked on the development of the Rolex 4130 movement to work on the development of the B01 movement. Reviews of it have been solid, with excellent accuracy. I nearly pulled the trigger on one a while back, but after lots of see-sawing went for the GMT IIc (already had a Daytona). The Breitling Crosswind I've got has been bulletproof and has gotten more complements than any timepiece I own, they are beautiful watches, although definitely a bit more on the blingy side than Rolex (though the newer Rolex releases have closed that gap somewhat).

Personally I think the brushed Pilot bracelet that was on the Blackbird and Crosswind Sport is the best looking bracelet I've seen outside of the AP RO and VC Overseas, very sad to see that one get discontinued, the faceting on the end of the links was just stellar. Oh, well...anyway, congrats and enjoy the new one, great complement to the Daytona!

[watchwatcher]

Can't wait to see the pics!

[AK797]

Originally Posted by improviz

In fact if I'm not mistaken, Breitling hired a number of people who had worked on the development of the Rolex 4130 movement to work on the development of the B01 movement. Reviews of it have been solid, with excellent accuracy. I nearly pulled the trigger on one a while back, but after lots of see-sawing went for the GMT IIc (already had a Daytona). The Breitling Crosswind I've got has been bulletproof and has gotten more complements than any timepiece I own, they are beautiful watches, although definitely a bit more on the blingy side than Rolex (though the newer Rolex releases have closed that gap somewhat).

Personally I think the brushed Pilot bracelet that was on the Blackbird and Crosswind Sport is the best looking bracelet I've seen outside of the AP RO and VC Overseas, very sad to see that one get discontinued, the faceting on the end of the links was just stellar. Oh, well...anyway, congrats and enjoy the new one, great complement to the Daytona!

Agree with this and good shout on the VCO bracelet, that too is unique and stunning.

[rmfnla]

Originally Posted by Xk500

A TT Rolex would whip a TT Breitling any day. (Sadly I hate the brand Breitling, I think the brand is like Guess as Rolex is to Dunhill. So this is a one sided opinion. Sorry)

At what..?

[KeepTicking]

There is only one Breitling chrono for me, and that's the Navitimer, it's and absolute classic.

[SWISSAHOLICS]

Apparently it's getting more attention and wrist time than my Daytona....and I love that fact that it has a date

[mmmmp]

[QUOTE=Alex_NYC;4039770]I have a chronomat evolution which I bought very happily in 2006.

It gets many compliment and IMO, looks great! The comfort factor is important as it is a very heavy watch which you will constantly be reminded that you are wearing.

If you like that idea, it is a very different and imposing watch. The accuracy: excellent./QUOTE]

That's one good lookin' watch.

[AK797]

Looks great Adam, congrats!

[watchwatcher]

Very nice! Congrats and wear in good health!

[Kevin.S]

Adam, that Breitling is fantastic!!! I am also planning on getting one:)
in the meantime I'm enjoying this "Bad-boy"