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samkumar · 8 June 2013, 04:02 AM

Hi Guys ! Was just offered a preowned RG 44MM for 40K with a slight nick on the ceramic bezel. It has one year remaining on the warranty, to be sent in for the 3rd year. Two Questions :

1. Is It a good price as I understand this is a highly sought after piece and hard to get after the AP gold price drop.

2. Is the ceramic bezel supposed be able to get nicked. Also how expensive is it to replace.

Thanks for your help !

FightOnSC! · 8 June 2013, 04:03 AM

is it a "nick"/dent? or is it a surface scratch?

I don't think Ceramic on the bezel is supposed to do any of the above. if its a surface scratch you can generally just get it out with an eraser or a shirt and some elbow grease. "nick" or "dent" wouldn't happen...maybe a "chip" but that is still highly unlike i think.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FightOnSC!

is it a "nick"/dent? or is it a surface scratch?

I don't think Ceramic on the bezel is supposed to do any of the above. if its a surface scratch you can generally just get it out with an eraser or a shirt and some elbow grease. "nick" or "dent" wouldn't happen...maybe a "chip" but that is still highly unlike i think.

Jason - Its def a nick. Very strange. I handled the watch this morning, looking at it for a good 10 mins. The owner said he didnt even realize when it happened says the ceramic is very "soft" whatever that means. What do you think of the price.

Yoda · 8 June 2013, 04:13 AM

It's on the expensive side. Ceramic bezels can crack and chip if knocked hard enough. I would walk away and find a NIB from a trusted seller. Best of luck.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

It's on the expensive side. Ceramic bezels can crack and chip if knocked hard enough. I would walk away and find a NIB from a trusted seller. Best of luck.

Thanks Yoda !

FightOnSC! · 8 June 2013, 04:33 AM

a new ceramic bezel can be had for $2000. if you can factor that in, plus the time it takes to get the bezel replacement and it makes sense? go for it.

but it's not a very hard watch to secure via the network of gray's we have on this wonderful forum. I say go with a new one. Make your own nicks and dings. ceramic isn't "soft" by the way...that guy is on something.

Demonoid · 8 June 2013, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by samkumar

Hi Guys ! Was just offered a preowned RG 44MM for 40K with a slight nick on the ceramic bezel. It has one year remaining on the warranty, to be sent in for the 3rd year. Two Questions :

1. Is It a good price as I understand this is a highly sought after piece and hard to get after the AP gold price drop.

2. Is the ceramic bezel supposed be able to get nicked. Also how expensive is it to replace.

Thanks for your help !

Do you have a pic?

texex91 · 8 June 2013, 04:49 AM

I wouldn't--but that's because I'm AR about my watches. Have you tried to find a BNIB on grey market/TRF Trusted Sellers?

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

Do you have a pic?

Here you go Logan :

Nick is between 5 & 6

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4493651f.jpg

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2215e827.jpg

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 04:54 AM

texex91 · 8 June 2013, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by samkumar

Here you go Logan :

Nick is between 5 & 6

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4493651f.jpg

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2215e827.jpg

That would be a no--especially after seeing picture.

But a GREAT watch once your find one in perfect shape.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

I wouldn't--but that's because I'm AR about my watches. Have you tried to find a BNIB on grey market/TRF Trusted Sellers?

Hey Paul - I've tried with no avail. The watch is just not available in BNIB condition. This is the absolute least expensive I could find. The price I was quoted on a BNIB was around 44K. Where would you want to be on this piece.

texex91 · 8 June 2013, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by samkumar

Hey Paul - I've tried with no avail. The watch is just not available in BNIB condition. This is the absolute least expensive I could find. The price I was quoted on a BNIB was around 44K. Where would you want to be on this piece.

On the piece you showed pictures, I'd just pass (IMHO).

And you're right, since the price decrease on the RG 44, AP has been VERY stingy on getting any new ones to AD's. Hard watch to find right now BNIB.

andromeda160 · 8 June 2013, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by samkumar

Hey Paul - I've tried with no avail. The watch is just not available in BNIB condition. This is the absolute least expensive I could find. The price I was quoted on a BNIB was around 44K. Where would you want to be on this piece.

$44k new, $40k used, with a messed up bezel that will cost $2k to replace. so your at $42k on a used watch vs 44k new. the warranty is worth something and so is the dealer experience, i'd just buy new.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by andromeda160

$44k new, $40k used, with a messed up bezel that will cost $2k to replace. so your at $42k on a used watch vs 44k new. the warranty is worth something and so is the dealer experience, i'd just buy new.

Thanks for the input Greg ! But the problem is no BNIB are around to be found.

Shoutout To The AP Forum Members, Find me a BNIB AP RG 44MM and a steak dinner & drinks on me. Send me the bill & I'll take care of it.

Demonoid · 8 June 2013, 05:27 AM

Hi Sam.

Thank you for the pictures. Ok, if I were you I would pass. 1. I am super anal regarding my watches and that hit will drive me crazy. 2. The price is very high for a used piece. The price on that ROO RG new is 46800 K.

I think you can contact David or justrolexes (Tony G) and I am sure they will find you that piece NIBP for less and with out a cracked bezel. You are right they are none posted for sale, but just email them. You can amaze yourself with what they might have in store.

Also, If you fix the bezel you will end up paying 42k for a used piece. Make the effort and buy it new in that case.

I know he is your friend etc, but believe me you will do him the favor. It's not a good deal. IMHO. Good luck.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

Hi Sam.

Thank you for the pictures. Ok, if I were you I would pass. 1. I am super anal regarding my watches and that hit will drive me crazy. 2. The price is very high for a used piece. The price on that ROO RG new is 46800 K.

I think you can contact David or justrolexes (Tony G) and I am sure they will find you that piece NIBP for less and with out a cracked bezel. You are right they are none posted for sale, but just email them. You can amaze yourself with what they might have in store.

Also, If you fix the bezel you will end up paying 42k for a used piece. Make the effort and buy it new in that case.

I know he is your friend etc, but believe me you will do him the favor. It's not a good deal. IMHO. Good luck.

Thanks for taking the time Logan, I hear you. everything you said makes sense. I've already contacted our trusted sellers and am awaiting their call with bated breath.

texex91 · 8 June 2013, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by samkumar

Thanks for taking the time Logan, I hear you. everything you said makes sense. I've already contacted our trusted sellers and am awaiting their call with bated breath.

Even our good Trusted Sellers (you know who) will have a hard time on this one.

Not even an AP dealers have one.

Might be able to source one from overseas...see what David can do.

Ticking_Sonata · 8 June 2013, 05:55 AM

they have one in stock in boutique in geneva

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samkumar · 8 June 2013, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Even our good Trusted Sellers (you know who) will have a hard time on this one.

Not even an AP dealers have one.

Might be able to source one from overseas...see what David can do.

Paul - Do you think buying one from a US AD versus a foreign AD makes a difference when it comes to resale. I've always noted that on the FS ads that the sellers specify US AD.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gabriel.sw9

they have one in stock in boutique in geneva

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks Gabriel ! I will be making a call tonight

texex91 · 8 June 2013, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by samkumar

Thanks Gabriel ! I will be making a call tonight

If you're willing to pay full price (which is what Boutique will charge), then call NYC Boutique and ask if they can get you one. If you want discount, I think the only place trusted seller could get you one with discount would be with foreign papers. I only buy US AD papers, but that's just me.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

If you're willing to pay full price (which is what Boutique will charge), then call NYC Boutique and ask if they can get you one. If you want discount, I think the only place trusted seller could get you one with discount would be with foreign papers. I only buy US AD papers, but that's just me.

My Motto Never Pay Retail.

33JS · 8 June 2013, 06:18 AM

$40k for that is a rip-off. AD's are on around 44% markup. Find one of the AD's that's about to be cut off from AP and I'll bet you'd get 20% off a new one.

kilyung · 8 June 2013, 06:25 AM

Sam, call Exquisite Timepieces in Naples, FL. They had one not long ago.

icok · 8 June 2013, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by samkumar

Hey Paul - I've tried with no avail. The watch is just not available in BNIB condition. This is the absolute least expensive I could find. The price I was quoted on a BNIB was around 44K. Where would you want to be on this piece.

saw a BNIB available from a singapore greymkt dealer, below 40k. pls let me know if u want the link. i can pm u.

s14roller · 8 June 2013, 06:34 AM

No chance...be patient, there were more orders this yr due to decrease but once it normalizes, they will show up.

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by icok

saw a BNIB available from a singapore greymkt dealer, below 40k. pls let me know if u want the link. i can pm u.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Sam, call Exquisite Timepieces in Naples, FL. They had one not long ago.

Mike - Spoke to Tim @ ET, sold it within a day. Thanks for the heads up, let me know if anyone in your circle wants to sell one.

ICOK - Please PM me the link. Good Lookin' Out !

mb23 · 8 June 2013, 06:42 AM

Hell no!!!! That's a huge chip and for 40, it's a pass!

samkumar · 8 June 2013, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by s14roller

No chance...be patient, there were more orders this yr due to decrease but once it normalizes, they will show up.

Patience, That's a virtue I wasn't blessed with. How r u bud !

8 June 2013, 04:02 AM	#1
samkumar Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Sam Location: NYC Watch: AP RB2 Ti & PAM277 Posts: 173	Rg 44mm Hi Guys ! Was just offered a preowned RG 44MM for 40K with a slight nick on the ceramic bezel. It has one year remaining on the warranty, to be sent in for the 3rd year. Two Questions : 1. Is It a good price as I understand this is a highly sought after piece and hard to get after the AP gold price drop. 2. Is the ceramic bezel supposed be able to get nicked. Also how expensive is it to replace. Thanks for your help !

8 June 2013, 04:03 AM	#2
FightOnSC! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: J Location: El Lay Watch: AP. Rolex. The end Posts: 636	is it a "nick"/dent? or is it a surface scratch? I don't think Ceramic on the bezel is supposed to do any of the above. if its a surface scratch you can generally just get it out with an eraser or a shirt and some elbow grease. "nick" or "dent" wouldn't happen...maybe a "chip" but that is still highly unlike i think.

8 June 2013, 04:13 AM	#4
Yoda Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Watch: PP AP RM Posts: 794	It's on the expensive side. Ceramic bezels can crack and chip if knocked hard enough. I would walk away and find a NIB from a trusted seller. Best of luck.

8 June 2013, 04:33 AM	#6
FightOnSC! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: J Location: El Lay Watch: AP. Rolex. The end Posts: 636	a new ceramic bezel can be had for $2000. if you can factor that in, plus the time it takes to get the bezel replacement and it makes sense? go for it. but it's not a very hard watch to secure via the network of gray's we have on this wonderful forum. I say go with a new one. Make your own nicks and dings. ceramic isn't "soft" by the way...that guy is on something.

8 June 2013, 04:49 AM	#8
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	I wouldn't--but that's because I'm AR about my watches. Have you tried to find a BNIB on grey market/TRF Trusted Sellers?

8 June 2013, 04:54 AM	#10
samkumar Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Sam Location: NYC Watch: AP RB2 Ti & PAM277 Posts: 173

8 June 2013, 05:27 AM	#16
Demonoid 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Logan Location: USA Posts: 2,484	Hi Sam. Thank you for the pictures. Ok, if I were you I would pass. 1. I am super anal regarding my watches and that hit will drive me crazy. 2. The price is very high for a used piece. The price on that ROO RG new is 46800 K. I think you can contact David or justrolexes (Tony G) and I am sure they will find you that piece NIBP for less and with out a cracked bezel. You are right they are none posted for sale, but just email them. You can amaze yourself with what they might have in store. Also, If you fix the bezel you will end up paying 42k for a used piece. Make the effort and buy it new in that case. I know he is your friend etc, but believe me you will do him the favor. It's not a good deal. IMHO. Good luck.

8 June 2013, 05:55 AM	#19
Ticking_Sonata "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: mon Location: earth Posts: 670	they have one in stock in boutique in geneva Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

8 June 2013, 06:18 AM	#24
33JS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: John Location: Scotland Watch: SD 50th Ann Posts: 444	$40k for that is a rip-off. AD's are on around 44% markup. Find one of the AD's that's about to be cut off from AP and I'll bet you'd get 20% off a new one.

8 June 2013, 06:25 AM	#25
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Sam, call Exquisite Timepieces in Naples, FL. They had one not long ago.

8 June 2013, 06:34 AM	#27
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	No chance...be patient, there were more orders this yr due to decrease but once it normalizes, they will show up.

8 June 2013, 06:42 AM	#29
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	Hell no!!!! That's a huge chip and for 40, it's a pass!

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