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acole · 1 October 2013, 11:57 AM

Hi.

I'm considering purchasing my first Rolex, and am interested in the GMT Master II.

I believe the dial on the new ones are blue and black.

I've seen pictures however of GMT Masters with a red and black dial, which I think is more attractive.

Can anyone tell me when the ones with the red and black dial were manufactured?

Thanks so much!

codecow · 1 October 2013, 11:59 AM

You mean the bezel, not the dial. This site on the GMT Master will tell you all you need to know.

http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/

Tools · 1 October 2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by acole

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I've seen pictures however of GMT Masters with a red and black dial, which I think is more attractive.

Can anyone tell me when the ones with the red and black dial were manufactured?

Thanks so much!

The Red/Black bezel insert was introduced with the original GMT II in ~1983.. It was available on all GMT II's until the introduction of the Ceramic insert models in 2007..

rolio · 1 October 2013, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acole

Hi.

I'm considering purchasing my first Rolex, and am interested in the GMT Master II.

I believe the dial on the new ones are blue and black.

I've seen pictures however of GMT Masters with a red and black dial, which I think is more attractive.

Can anyone tell me when the ones with the red and black dial were manufactured?

Thanks so much!

It is a great watch

yeayearite · 1 October 2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rolio

It is a great watch

Apart from the bracelet. To be honest I don't think the older bracelet is THAT flimsy... I mean it's a lot more solid than I thought it would be.

DC Engineer · 1 October 2013, 01:04 PM

check out Rolex's website... after wearing the new GMTIIc and handling the older GMTs the new bracelet is miles superior.

see this link for detailed comparison between the old and new GMT.
http://www.minus4plus6.com/116710.htm

azguy · 1 October 2013, 11:30 PM

You want a coke

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Dan Pierce · 1 October 2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yeayearite

Apart from the bracelet. To be honest I don't think the older bracelet is THAT flimsy... I mean it's a lot more solid than I thought it would be.

Not to mention time tested for decades.

Many new to Rolex or watches in general are put off by the classic Oyster bracelet. But thru time, knowledge, and experience they tend to be more openminded.

dP

gsgarbear2 · 2 October 2013, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

The Red/Black bezel insert was introduced with the original GMT II in ~1983.. It was available on all GMT II's until the introduction of the Ceramic insert models in 2007..

Were both the Coke and Pepsi mfg until 2007?

Tools · 2 October 2013, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gsgarbear2

Were both the Coke and Pepsi mfg until 2007?

Sure.. no reason to think otherwise..

fishingbear · 2 October 2013, 05:04 AM

Get the Coke. All the GMTs are great watches but my favorite are the 16710s.

Jocke · 2 October 2013, 05:06 AM

A coke will make you happy.

stevedssd · 2 October 2013, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Not to mention time tested for decades.

Many new to Rolex or watches in general are put off by the classic Oyster bracelet. But thru time, knowledge, and experience they tend to be more openminded.

dP

+1

nikanarani · 2 October 2013, 06:03 AM

The 16710 coke bezel with sel is what you should get if you can find it at a reputable dealer. I have the blnr myself and if I would have found a quality 16710 with box and papers prior to this purchase I would have taken it in a heartbeat. The blnr is a fantastic watch and I believe it will be a classic one day but the 16710 is a well priced classic now and has an inimitable soul.

CWIN · 2 October 2013, 06:04 AM

I've always lusted after a Pepsi but ended up with the BLNR instead. Whichever you choose, you'll be happy!

T. Ferguson · 2 October 2013, 06:06 AM

If you are looking new (11671x), then your choices are blue/black bezel or all black bezel in stainless; black bezel in two tone; black bezel with choice of black or green dial in YG.

aaron123 · 2 October 2013, 06:34 AM

The GMTIIc is great but the 16710 is classic. You can get all three bezel inserts and have a coke, pepsi or black whenever you want. This is the one thing I don't like about the GMTIIc. The new bracelet and other upgrades on the new GMTIIc are great though. You can't go wrong with either one.

acole · 2 October 2013, 11:28 PM

What's a reasonable price for a used 16710 with the red and black bezel, that was manufactured in 2007?

All the ones I see online are in the $5K range.

Thanks!

1 October 2013, 11:57 AM	#1
acole "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3	GMT Master II Question Hi. I'm considering purchasing my first Rolex, and am interested in the GMT Master II. I believe the dial on the new ones are blue and black. I've seen pictures however of GMT Masters with a red and black dial, which I think is more attractive. Can anyone tell me when the ones with the red and black dial were manufactured? Thanks so much!

2 October 2013, 05:06 AM	#12
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	A coke will make you happy. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

2 October 2013, 06:04 AM	#15
CWIN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Chris Location: San Diego Watch: Patek, AP, Rolex Posts: 4,449	I've always lusted after a Pepsi but ended up with the BLNR instead. Whichever you choose, you'll be happy! __________________ *Instagram* @cwin

2 October 2013, 06:06 AM	#16
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	If you are looking new (11671x), then your choices are blue/black bezel or all black bezel in stainless; black bezel in two tone; black bezel with choice of black or green dial in YG. __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

2 October 2013, 11:28 PM	#18
acole "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3	Price What's a reasonable price for a used 16710 with the red and black bezel, that was manufactured in 2007? All the ones I see online are in the $5K range. Thanks!

1 October 2013, 11:59 AM	#2
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 5,195	You mean the bezel, not the dial. This site on the GMT Master will tell you all you need to know. http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/

1 October 2013, 01:04 PM	#6
DC Engineer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NoVA Watch: 116710 Posts: 218	check out Rolex's website... after wearing the new GMTIIc and handling the older GMTs the new bracelet is miles superior. see this link for detailed comparison between the old and new GMT. http://www.minus4plus6.com/116710.htm

1 October 2013, 11:30 PM	#7
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	You want a coke

2 October 2013, 05:04 AM	#11
fishingbear 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: George Location: Alabama Watch: GMTsSubLVEx2SDDayt Posts: 4,549	Get the Coke. All the GMTs are great watches but my favorite are the 16710s.

2 October 2013, 06:03 AM	#14
nikanarani "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bombay Watch: is on my wrist Posts: 315	The 16710 coke bezel with sel is what you should get if you can find it at a reputable dealer. I have the blnr myself and if I would have found a quality 16710 with box and papers prior to this purchase I would have taken it in a heartbeat. The blnr is a fantastic watch and I believe it will be a classic one day but the 16710 is a well priced classic now and has an inimitable soul.

2 October 2013, 06:34 AM	#17
aaron123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Louisiana Posts: 306	The GMTIIc is great but the 16710 is classic. You can get all three bezel inserts and have a coke, pepsi or black whenever you want. This is the one thing I don't like about the GMTIIc. The new bracelet and other upgrades on the new GMTIIc are great though. You can't go wrong with either one.

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