16613 or 116613

[Keith1]

Originally Posted by roadie1

I've owned both and prefer the blue SubC.

I also have owned both, and hands down prefer the 116613. The solid bracelet, weight, clasp, maxi dial, and ceramic bezel makes it the Sub of the future. I like the more modern look.

[Nycturbovr6]

I would try both of them on and see which one you love more. Maybe reevaluate your current collection but not if you have your heart set on one of the tt subs just go for it.

[luvsub]

TT Subc.

[SixPak]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Buy what YOU like, not what the AD or there's say you should like.

Agreed with this as well. I had a choice between the matte blue and royal blue 116613LB and went with the former. Both are superb, just went with my heart. I also had the 16613lb but definitely prefer the new ceramic version.

[GsurgBM]

16613 for me. I think the gold on the aluminum bezel somehow looks better with the dial than the "yellow" writing on the ceramic. And knowing the bezel insert can be completely replaced for 75 dollars means it will always look like new.

[Medtech]

Originally Posted by Rockslide

Does the bracelet on 116613 fit on the 16613? If so will it be possible to buy one from an AD?

To my knowledge they will not fit as the 16613 lugs are slightly wider. Also the new G series bracelets are near impossible to obtain by themselves.

[Angrypuppy]

I'm still not a fan of the super case.

[Yinger]

Having trouble making the same decision. I have the 16613, but kind of want the 116613. I go back and forth everyday

[adsusanto]

Just have a look in your wallet....see how deep they are then buy. For me personally I get the LB.

[moby33]

Coming from someone that has owned 4 "old" Sub variants and then a DSSD & Sub-C, absolutely ZERO question in my mind - NEW Sub-C. I was excited for the new Subs mainly for the clasp seeing as the only thing I didn't really like about the older version was the cheap beyond cheap (albeit very functional) stamped clasp (absolutely no way any argument/defense will EVER convince me that the old clasp is good...I don't care how many years they were on Subs, they are just plain WRONG and ALWAYS let that amazing watch down from a quality standpoint).

Then when you consider things like the spring loaded ball bearing system under the hard as nails ceramic bezel (w/ awesome recessed numerals...yep, no more scratching your numbers off your bezel as w/ the old Sub), the larger maxi-markers & hands (translation - GREAT night lume vision), anti-reflection coating under the cyclops, and chunkier case (I actually really like the more chiseled lugs & crown guards...looks more sporty IMO...and that's what I want out of a dive watch), the already mentioned killer clasp (w/ amazing micro-adjustment capability on the fly), not to mention the movement upgrades, there's just no question in my mind that the Sub-C is an all around improvement over the last iteration Sub.

But ultimately, if you don't like the look compared to the old version, then I would say get the one that makes you smile when you look at it. Then again, you may find that the new version will quickly grow on you. Good luck.

[moby33]

Originally Posted by Yinger

Having trouble making the same decision. I have the 16613, but kind of want the 116613. I go back and forth everyday

Buy the 116613...you'll never look back. It will only be a matter of time before that flimsy rattling clasp irritates you enough to where you'll finally throw in the towel and say, "Damn, I'm just going to get the 116613 which is what I should have bought in the first place."

[soaking.fused]

The new iteration is gorgeous but certainly a departure from the previous beloved design in a few areas. Perhaps try and spend some wrist time with each, so as to better know which is more suited for your wear.


Sent from a guy wearing a watch.

[moby33]

Seeing as the OP is pushing 8 months, somehow I think he's probably made up his mind by now (or maybe not).

[datejusting]

116613 is the superior watch but I don't like the case with its fat lugs, so I would get the 16613 even if the price was the same.

[bradiowausa]

Originally Posted by Sperry

I'm not ready for the Supercase. Even a Supercased 34mm Airking wears bigger than a brushed-lugs 16000 36mm Datejust.

So true. The new air king is a daily wearer for me

[landroverking]

Originally Posted by BigDoug

Well, I want the superior watch. That clearly seems to be the 116613. Aesthetically, I like the 16613. It's tough.

Why do you state this? How is the watch superior?
Bracelet maybe but the watch I think not.

[samsmart]

The Blue on the 16613 is very nice, but I do like the case and bracelet better on the 116613.

Either way, I would buy from a trusted seller here on the forum. I have seen both BNIB, and LNIB 116613's here on the forum for sell, I think there is a few available now.

I miss my 16613

[911SC]

I've owned three 16613 blue "sunburst dial" they are beautiful and worth getting one to add to your collection. I sold my 16613 and now own a 116613 and absolutely love it. I really like the new maxi dial, the new blue hue is clean, simple & modern. One day i'll add the 16613 again to the collection.


16613


116613



Sent from a cave on Mars

[Aventura]

Originally Posted by BigDoug

If I chose a Submariner-and I'm leaning that way some days, and a DJII others-what's the consensus, 116613 or 16613? My draws to the 16613:

1) I like the blue dial better.
2) I like the smaller case.
3) It's a classic.

The 116613:

1) Drastically better clasp
2) Scratch-resistant bezel
3) I can by brand new from my AD
4) My watch dealer ( not AD, but sells preowned Rolexes and sold me my 16013) says the new Sub is far superior, no question.

I have the money to buy brand new, or get the 16613 and mayne another watch. But I really want a new Rolex. I want the experience of buying from a AD. But if the 16613 is the better choice, I would go that route. What would you do?

My advice is that you choose the one you like more. I don't know if you still get the 16613 new at the AD and I suppose if there are new should be much cheaper than the 116613.
That I would like to confirm me the friendly fellow forum.The issue of price and if there are models available 16613[/U]
I just want to tell you that in my personal experience with the same question but comparing 16610 116610 with you I can say that most of the views of the people of the forum was completely different from what was actually in the market to buy-sale.

[Rags]

I prefer the color of the 16613 but the bracelet of the 116613.

[911SC]

You can not get a BNIB 16613 at the AD unless its NOS and i suspect it will be pretty darn close to price of a 116613. The "sunburst" dial is now available for the 116613- so now you can the best of both worlds.


Sent from a cave on Mars

[jjnd08]

Anybody have any side by side pics of the two?

[TDH]

16613 Deep Blue Classic

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by BigDoug

Well said. 16613 would have to be mint to really influence me. Do you all buy into the fact that a a 116613 will still look mint 10 years from now, as opposed to the 16613 which shows a lot of bezel scratches. If I had a non mint 16613 or brand new 116613 in front of me-I think I know which one will draw my attention. But if the non mint 16613 still catches my eye...then my heart has spoke.

Well said! Plus, if the bezel insert does bother you, it will only cost you $51 to replace at a service at the RSC.

[Rockslide]

16613 for me. Im waiting for mine to arrive during this week.

[jpl20]

Originally Posted by jjnd08

anybody have any side by side pics of the two?

+1

[Yinger]

Originally Posted by moby33

Buy the 116613...you'll never look back. It will only be a matter of time before that flimsy rattling clasp irritates you enough to where you'll finally throw in the towel and say, "Damn, I'm just going to get the 116613 which is what I should have bought in the first place."

That's what I was afraid of haha

[AK797]

Originally Posted by GsurgBM

16613 for me. I think the gold on the aluminum bezel somehow looks better with the dial than the "yellow" writing on the ceramic. And knowing the bezel insert can be completely replaced for 75 dollars means it will always look like new.

The new sunburst ceramic has numbers that are more golden than all previous yellowish TT versions.