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Scottie · 4 March 2014, 01:47 AM

I went in to my AD Tara fine Jewelers this past Saturday. While in there talking with a friend a guy is looking at the Rolex counter as was I. The owner Eddie comes over to help the guy and he wants to buy the new Sub Hulk. He gets his drivers license and credit card and I hear him say ok everything looks good. After a few minutes I look around and the guy is gone I thought it kind of strange that he would just purchase and leave because they spent so much time with me going over everything books the watch etc. so I ask and the owner said I didn't sell him the watch because he was just going to go and sell it for more money and he wanted someone to buy the watch that would enjoy it and not flip it. I thought that was pretty good of him he could have made full retail and turned the guy away. Has anybody else seen an AD do this before? It's not always about making money it's about gaining a lifetime customer.

Furbo · 4 March 2014, 01:49 AM

How could someone sell Rolex for more than it costs at AD? Fishy.

slm9555 · 4 March 2014, 01:51 AM

Doesn't seem relevant what someone does after purchasing from an AD. Also, if a watch is purchased by your average person from an AD they won't be able to just flip it and make a profit. Probably a loss if anything.

Wesley Crusher · 4 March 2014, 01:53 AM

Sounds like Eddie is a a lousy businessman. A sale is a sale. I guess he isn't too concerned about making money.

But the whole story doesn't sound right? Why would he think that somebody would sell the watch for more than MRSP?

outtatime · 4 March 2014, 02:03 AM

So, the store refused to make a sale for...philosophical reasons?

If there was nothing illegal about the purchase or anything the customer was doing wrong, I'm not sure I'd say the AD was in the "right". What do they care what someone does with a watch after they buy it?

I've seen people turned away for being belligerent/etc., or if they're "caught" trying to pull a scam, but never just for being honest that they're a flipper.

I guess a store can technically reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, but this seems a bit much.

If I were the customer, I would complain to Rolex.

subtona · 4 March 2014, 02:21 AM

possibly a discount involved that OP wasn't aware of?

xjeeunitx · 4 March 2014, 02:26 AM

I think the owner is bsing. Big time.

MonBK · 4 March 2014, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

I think the owner is bsing. Big time.

Of course he was.

ingoodtime · 4 March 2014, 02:44 AM

Maybe the guys credit was good but he didn't have a high enough credit line. Something doesn't sound right with that story.

illiguy · 4 March 2014, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by slm9555

Doesn't seem relevant what someone does after purchasing from an AD. Also, if a watch is purchased by your average person from an AD they won't be able to just flip it and make a profit. Probably a loss if anything.

This. As long as you're not using the Rolex for some illegal purpose (e.g., using a genuine to create counterfeits), I don't see how the AD could have any basis for denying the legitimate sale of a watch to a customer - no matter what that customer eventually wants to do with the watch.

AK797 · 4 March 2014, 02:58 AM

What the buyer does after purchase is no one's business, least of all the AD's. Sounds like a cover story to me to impress you.

SWISSAHOLICS · 4 March 2014, 03:02 AM

Credit card and drivers license. Either his card declined or the card may have appeared stolen / counterfeit and the store owner could not be blunt about it and just politely told the guy he was not able to make the transaction.

iazrollie · 4 March 2014, 03:23 AM

I'd understand if it was a SS daytona...well, maybe not even then.

ARTISAN · 4 March 2014, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by swissaholics

credit card and drivers license. Either his card declined or the card may have appeared stolen / counterfeit and the store owner could not be blunt about it and just politely told the guy he was not able to make the transaction.

x2

garymyman · 4 March 2014, 03:27 AM

That story doesn't make a lick of sense. When was the last time a Hulk sold secondhand for more than MSRP? Why would the AD care what anyone does after they pay for their watch?

Casey VP-26 · 4 March 2014, 03:31 AM

I seen a simular incident once, when the AD refused to sell the watch without filling out the papers. The buyer walked away.

kilyung · 4 March 2014, 03:49 AM

Really? For a LVc?

Vipes · 4 March 2014, 03:57 AM

Yea. Story sounds weird. I can understand if it is a hard to get Patek but not for the Hulk.

NukeMan · 4 March 2014, 04:35 AM

mjclark32 · 4 March 2014, 04:47 AM

Not adding up

JJL · 4 March 2014, 04:54 AM

Sounds like Eddie wasn't telling the truth as to why the sale didn't go down.

Rather than telling a negative story to another potential customer, he spun it to sound like a positive one.

rph08 · 4 March 2014, 04:59 AM

I've purchased a Rolex from Tara before, and received excellent service. I'd recommend them to anybody. I agree with others here in that there seems to be more going on than meets the eye.

Fleetlord · 4 March 2014, 05:03 AM

I've seen it with SS Daytona's..

My local AD has a couple of guys he won't sell them too, because he knows their "flippers"..lol

I'm like that was like 5yrs ago, now the SS Daytona goes for less than retail on the open market...

He swears they sell for $15k and he's holding the line..

So, yes, that mentality is still out there

QueueCumber · 4 March 2014, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottie

I went in to my AD Tara fine Jewelers this past Saturday. While in there talking with a friend a guy is looking at the Rolex counter as was I. The owner Eddie comes over to help the guy and he wants to buy the new Sub Hulk. He gets his drivers license and credit card and I hear him say ok everything looks good. After a few minutes I look around and the guy is gone I thought it kind of strange that he would just purchase and leave because they spent so much time with me going over everything books the watch etc. so I ask and the owner said I didn't sell him the watch because he was just going to go and sell it for more money and he wanted someone to buy the watch that would enjoy it and not flip it. I thought that was pretty good of him he could have made full retail and turned the guy away. Has anybody else seen an AD do this before? It's not always about making money it's about gaining a lifetime customer.

I'm not sure exactly what you were saying. Without punctuation that seemed like a big run-on sentence to me.

This seems like advertisement shill post...

Scottie · 4 March 2014, 05:09 AM

That's what I was told. What may have happened that I didn't see I don't know. I know when I bought my Sub there they took great care if me and did whatever they could to help me learn about the watch.

superdog · 4 March 2014, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I'm not sure exactly what you were saying. Without punctuation that seemed like a big run-on sentence to me.

This seems like advertisement shill post...

I didn't think of that. But now that you say it, it makes sense.

kaiserphoenix · 4 March 2014, 06:03 AM

yeah no way u can flip a hulk at msrp for a profit. And why would the customer even mention that? either this is stealth marketing or owner is BSing big time.

Reu · 4 March 2014, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by monbk

of course he was.

x2

4 March 2014, 01:47 AM	#1
Scottie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Bill Mascottie Location: Plantation Watch: Submariner Posts: 41	My AD I went in to my AD Tara fine Jewelers this past Saturday. While in there talking with a friend a guy is looking at the Rolex counter as was I. The owner Eddie comes over to help the guy and he wants to buy the new Sub Hulk. He gets his drivers license and credit card and I hear him say ok everything looks good. After a few minutes I look around and the guy is gone I thought it kind of strange that he would just purchase and leave because they spent so much time with me going over everything books the watch etc. so I ask and the owner said I didn't sell him the watch because he was just going to go and sell it for more money and he wanted someone to buy the watch that would enjoy it and not flip it. I thought that was pretty good of him he could have made full retail and turned the guy away. Has anybody else seen an AD do this before? It's not always about making money it's about gaining a lifetime customer.

4 March 2014, 02:03 AM	#5
outtatime "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jon Location: Toledo, OH Watch: Deepsea Posts: 1,136	So, the store refused to make a sale for...philosophical reasons? If there was nothing illegal about the purchase or anything the customer was doing wrong, I'm not sure I'd say the AD was in the "right". What do they care what someone does with a watch after they buy it? I've seen people turned away for being belligerent/etc., or if they're "caught" trying to pull a scam, but never just for being honest that they're a flipper. I guess a store can technically reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, but this seems a bit much. If I were the customer, I would complain to Rolex. __________________ The above represents my opinion. I may be wrong, but that's how I feel. Scratches ≠ "Character"

4 March 2014, 02:21 AM	#6
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	possibly a discount involved that OP wasn't aware of? __________________

4 March 2014, 02:44 AM	#9
ingoodtime "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,834	Maybe the guys credit was good but he didn't have a high enough credit line. Something doesn't sound right with that story. __________________ Lee

4 March 2014, 03:02 AM	#12
SWISSAHOLICS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Here! Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,366	Credit card and drivers license. Either his card declined or the card may have appeared stolen / counterfeit and the store owner could not be blunt about it and just politely told the guy he was not able to make the transaction. __________________ 16610LN \| 16613LB \| 16710 Pepsi \| 118238 \| 116500 (White) \| 116500 (Black) \| 116710BLNR \| 116610LV "The one thing I fear most is time; time waits for no one and leaves no options."

4 March 2014, 01:49 AM	#2
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	How could someone sell Rolex for more than it costs at AD? Fishy.

4 March 2014, 01:51 AM	#3
slm9555 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 617	Doesn't seem relevant what someone does after purchasing from an AD. Also, if a watch is purchased by your average person from an AD they won't be able to just flip it and make a profit. Probably a loss if anything.

4 March 2014, 01:53 AM	#4
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345	Sounds like Eddie is a a lousy businessman. A sale is a sale. I guess he isn't too concerned about making money. But the whole story doesn't sound right? Why would he think that somebody would sell the watch for more than MRSP?

4 March 2014, 02:26 AM	#7
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,533	I think the owner is bsing. Big time.

4 March 2014, 02:58 AM	#11
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	What the buyer does after purchase is no one's business, least of all the AD's. Sounds like a cover story to me to impress you.

4 March 2014, 03:23 AM	#13
iazrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Ian Location: NY Watch: All of them Posts: 3,245	I'd understand if it was a SS daytona...well, maybe not even then. __________________ Rolex, PPs, Breitling

4 March 2014, 03:27 AM	#15
garymyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Gray Location: New Orleans Watch: Sub; Ω Posts: 242	That story doesn't make a lick of sense. When was the last time a Hulk sold secondhand for more than MSRP? Why would the AD care what anyone does after they pay for their watch? __________________

4 March 2014, 03:31 AM	#16
Casey VP-26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,721	I seen a simular incident once, when the AD refused to sell the watch without filling out the papers. The buyer walked away.

4 March 2014, 03:49 AM	#17
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Really? For a LVc?

4 March 2014, 03:57 AM	#18
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,913	Yea. Story sounds weird. I can understand if it is a hard to get Patek but not for the Hulk.

4 March 2014, 04:35 AM	#19
NukeMan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Jonas Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 988

4 March 2014, 04:47 AM	#20
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Not adding up __________________

4 March 2014, 04:54 AM	#21
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	Sounds like Eddie wasn't telling the truth as to why the sale didn't go down. Rather than telling a negative story to another potential customer, he spun it to sound like a positive one.

4 March 2014, 04:59 AM	#22
rph08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Posts: 992	I've purchased a Rolex from Tara before, and received excellent service. I'd recommend them to anybody. I agree with others here in that there seems to be more going on than meets the eye.

4 March 2014, 05:03 AM	#23
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,023	I've seen it with SS Daytona's.. My local AD has a couple of guys he won't sell them too, because he knows their "flippers"..lol I'm like that was like 5yrs ago, now the SS Daytona goes for less than retail on the open market... He swears they sell for $15k and he's holding the line.. So, yes, that mentality is still out there

4 March 2014, 05:09 AM	#25
Scottie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Bill Mascottie Location: Plantation Watch: Submariner Posts: 41	That's what I was told. What may have happened that I didn't see I don't know. I know when I bought my Sub there they took great care if me and did whatever they could to help me learn about the watch.

4 March 2014, 06:03 AM	#27
kaiserphoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/Tokyo Watch: FPJ CO BL Posts: 1,709	yeah no way u can flip a hulk at msrp for a profit. And why would the customer even mention that? either this is stealth marketing or owner is BSing big time. __________________ F.P.Journe Chronometre Optimum Black Label, Patek 5811G-001, Patek 5968A-001, Patek 5167A-001 IG: tokyo_watch_guy

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