Rolex Lubes Comparison

[mikie1]

I got these 5 lubes very small amounts to lube my one rolex but have trouble matching the Rolex specs.
D5 - 1ml - barrel side gear train
9010 - 1/4ml - escape side of gear train, balance
9415 - 1/4ml - pallet face
Barrel grease - 1ml - barrel wall
KT22 - 1ml - stem and keyless
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PML 163 =
MR 1 ? =
FHMR 3 =

Thanks

[shofzr]

Originally Posted by mikie1

I got these 5 lubes very small amounts to lube my one rolex but have trouble matching the Rolex specs.

D5 - 1ml - barrel side gear train

9010 - 1/4ml - escape side of gear train, balance

9415 - 1/4ml - pallet face

Barrel grease - 1ml - barrel wall

KT22 - 1ml - stem and keyless

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PML 163 =

MR 1 ? =

FHMR 3 =



Thanks

The lubrications you have should work.
The current lubrications are as follows,

9415 = escape wheel teeth

9010 = escape wheel / balance wheel pivots

HP1000 = train wheels

MR4= winding/setting parts

Tepa = Mainspribg Barrel Wall




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[Lol-x]

Brilliant thread guys

I'm very interested in the different kinds of lubes, whether they are synthetic and how they work on different parts of the movement and why?????

[mikie1]

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f425/mo...ts-970767.html

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Brilliant thread guys

I'm very interested in the different kinds of lubes, whether they are synthetic and how they work on different parts of the movement and why?????

[shofzr]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Brilliant thread guys

I'm very interested in the different kinds of lubes, whether they are synthetic and how they work on different parts of the movement and why?????

The lubrications being used by Rolex are full synthetic.

9010 = escape wheel / balance wheel pivots.
Thin oil used because low pressure on pivots does not require a thicker oil that could reduce amplitude.

HP1000 = train wheels, automatic device pivots,
Thicker oil used on high pressure pivots preventing pivots from contacting the jewels and preventing premature wear.


MR4= winding/setting parts, grease used where metal at metal friction points.

Tepa = Mainspring Barrel Wall.

Used on the wall of the barrel where the tail of the mainspring contacts it.
Too much slipping will result in loss of amplitude as well as shorter run time.

Not enough slipping will cause undue stress and premature wear on the barrel,mainspring, and automatic device parts.

9415 = escape wheel teeth.

The 9415 has actually been replace by RL2 I did not mention it before because I am not aware of a way for anyone to get it unless they have a parts account with Rolex. To me this is the most fascinating lubrication, as it seems to have two "personalities" the first is a grease that sticks where it is applied, the second, when pressure is applied to it from the escape wheel tooth striking the pallet stones is becomes a thin oil, after the pressure is gone it's back to grease state.

If the RL2 is applied incorrect to the pallet stones the watch will only run a few months before amplitude drops and timing becomes erratic.

Because as the escape wheel tooth passes through the RL2 a tiny amount gets pushed to the sides and eventually there is not enough where it needs to be.

You can see in this picture the "groove" in the RL2 from the escape wheel teeth passing through the bead applied to the pallet stone. This is only after a few hours of running, in a few months it will be all but dry.



Now when RL2 is applied correctly to the teeth of the escape wheel the results are dramatically better, the RL2 will stay exactly on the pallet stone where the tooth leaves it and will not spread.
It will continue to look like this for years to come.



Cheers
Adrian







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[Kadhytia]

Originally Posted by shofzr

The lubrications being used by Rolex are full synthetic.

9010 = escape wheel / balance wheel pivots.
Thin oil used because low pressure on pivots does not require a thicker oil that could reduce amplitude.

HP1000 = train wheels, automatic device pivots,
Thicker oil used on high pressure pivots preventing pivots from contacting the jewels and preventing premature wear.


MR4= winding/setting parts, grease used where metal at metal friction points.

Tepa = Mainspring Barrel Wall.

Used on the wall of the barrel where the tail of the mainspring contacts it.
Too much slipping will result in loss of amplitude as well as shorter run time.

Not enough slipping will cause undue stress and premature wear on the barrel,mainspring, and automatic device parts.

9415 = escape wheel teeth.

The 9415 has actually been replace by RL2 I did not mention it before because I am not aware of a way for anyone to get it unless they have a parts account with Rolex. To me this is the most fascinating lubrication, as it seems to have two "personalities" the first is a grease that sticks where it is applied, the second, when pressure is applied to it from the escape wheel tooth striking the pallet stones is becomes a thin oil, after the pressure is gone it's back to grease state.

If the RL2 is applied incorrect to the pallet stones the watch will only run a few months before amplitude drops and timing becomes erratic.

Because as the escape wheel tooth passes through the RL2 a tiny amount gets pushed to the sides and eventually there is not enough where it needs to be.

You can see in this picture the "groove" in the RL2 from the escape wheel teeth passing through the bead applied to the pallet stone. This is only after a few hours of running, in a few months it will be all but dry.



Now when RL2 is applied correctly to the teeth of the escape wheel the results are dramatically better, the RL2 will stay exactly on the pallet stone where the tooth leaves it and will not spread.
It will continue to look like this for years to come.



Cheers
Adrian







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If the new lubes are being used has the recommended service interval been extended? As we know, usually they say 5-7 years and now with the new lubes when is the service due? Another question about the RL2 when was this grease/lube introduced by Rolex in the production and the availability to the RSC?

[shofzr]

Originally Posted by Kadhytia

If the new lubes are being used has the recommended service interval been extended? As we know, usually they say 5-7 years and now with the new lubes when is the service due? Another question about the RL2 when was this grease/lube introduced by Rolex in the production and the availability to the RSC?

The recommend service interval has not changed.
RL2 was introduced to after sales service around 2010.
I do not know when RL2 was implemented in new goods.


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