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kier333 · 26 March 2014, 07:09 AM

I currently have a explorer 39mm, however lately I have been thinking about exchanging it for the last of the 14060m sub ND.

Any thoughts, I love the simple lines if the explorer, I also love the sportiness of the sub.

I am torn as to what to do, and hope some opinions could help me decide.

tkerrmd · 26 March 2014, 07:10 AM

both great watches, but if I had the choice I would go with the sub

kier333 · 26 March 2014, 07:12 AM

I guess the sub is more versatile. I would need to add some cash for the sub along with my explorer. Both are 2011 watches.

mannyv11 · 26 March 2014, 07:14 AM

I really like the both watches, if I had to choose though I would go with the sub.
I like sporty watches and it dresses up really well.

You really can't go wrong with either watch! =)

cop414 · 26 March 2014, 07:14 AM

I have the 14060M and hopefully my next Rolex will be the Explorer I. Sounds to me like you might regret flipping the Exp, maybe save for the Sub, I really think that they compliment each other. Here's a pic to whet your appetite...

nygo · 26 March 2014, 07:15 AM

sub nd

Dr. Robert · 26 March 2014, 07:17 AM

For one watch I'd go w/ the explorer
It could be sporty & dressy! It's my go to watch, works well in all settings

kier333 · 26 March 2014, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cop414

I have the 14060M and hopefully my next Rolex will be the Explorer I. Sounds to me like you might regret flipping the Exp, maybe save for the Sub, I really think that they compliment each other. Here's a pic to whet your appetite...

Having both is not really an option having just bought a new Mercedes, and in the process of refurbishing my property. I am also the type that only would wear one watch. I have to say, I do love the explorer, but the sub has just caught my eye.

Would my explorer plus between £500-750 be a fair deal for the sub?

cop414 · 26 March 2014, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kier333

Having both is not really an option having just bought a new Mercedes, and in the process of refurbishing my property. I am also the type that only would wear one watch. I have to say, I do love the explorer, but the sub has just caught my eye.

Would my explorer plus between £500-750 be a fair deal for the sub?

I don't think that's out of line but it would all depend on condition of both. You still see NOS 14060's in the FS section but they are starting to get pricey.

Urosfan · 26 March 2014, 07:31 AM

Between those two i pick sub

kier333 · 26 March 2014, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cop414

I don't think that's out of line but it would all depend on condition of both. You still see NOS 14060's in the FS section but they are starting to get pricey.

Condition of both are excellent. Both are full sets

kier333 · 26 March 2014, 07:33 AM

What the value of a 2011 full set 14060 - I value it around £4000, I value my explorer around £3500 2011 full set.

Would you agree?

cop414 · 26 March 2014, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kier333

What the value of a 2011 full set 14060 - I value it around £4000, I value my explorer around £3500 2011 full set.

Would you agree?

With both being equal and excellent condition I'd say you're in the ballpark. That's my assumption though as I'd only be able to figure in dollars... Mate!

mfer · 26 March 2014, 07:37 AM

Yes! There is no wrong answer.

First one then the other.....

I'd vote for the expy first. Less common and super comfortable.

Boothroyd · 26 March 2014, 07:42 AM

Have the Explorer, great watch. Just was at AD looking at Sub's, etc, today.

I would have a very difficult time giving up my Explorer for a Sub. It's just too versatile. Getting both is the right answer. IMHO, anyway.

slcbbrown · 26 March 2014, 07:47 AM

I'm a big fan of the understated, no nonsense looks and functionality of a ss DJ or Exp in 36mm and really like the 38-40mm size of the newer Exp and Sub. So, I don't think you can go wrong with either, but I've got to say that I'm always impressed with just how pretty a Sub actually is. I've worn Rolex for 40 years, and if I ever had to limit myself to one watch (any brand), I think it would be a black bezel Sub or GMT in ss or tt.

RUK · 26 March 2014, 07:51 AM

Sub Sub Sub... feels a lot better on the wrist

kier333 · 26 March 2014, 07:55 AM

I think I'm even more confused now than earlier, I know they are both great watches!
Decisions, decisions!

14060m · 26 March 2014, 07:59 AM

Just read my name

Mick P · 26 March 2014, 08:10 AM

Chaps

There is no definitive answer to this because we all have different values and taste.

I value discretion above all else and I wanted a brilliant watch that I could wear all the time and I did not want anyone else to notice it.

I therefore bought a 39mm Explorer1. It is a wonderfully discrete watch and it is for me at least, a watch that I will wear on the day that I die.

A Sub on the other hand screams ROLEX and that alone will mean that I will never wear one. Having said that, a Sub is the watch that some of you chaps would sell your wife for, so it is in all honesty, horses for courses.

Only the OP can decide on this one.

Regards

Mick

Jack T · 26 March 2014, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kier333

I guess the sub is more versatile. I would need to add some cash for the sub along with my explorer. Both are 2011 watches.

I have both, and the Sub is certainly one of the definitive models in the Rolex line. As for versatility, I would place the Explorer well ahead of the Sub...it can be worn where the Sub looks out of place, Ian Fleming characters not withstanding. And the clasp and bracelet are an upgrade to the Sub you're considering, so there is another point to consider. My Explorer is my daily wearer, perhaps the one in my small collection not likely to be flipped.

kilyung · 26 March 2014, 10:06 AM

Sub all day long

Boothroyd · 26 March 2014, 10:08 AM

Agree with the above, as to versatility of the Explorer. I can wear it anywhere because it flies under the radar. I like that. Were I to have a Sub (especially the C given the reflection off the bezel), I would wear it to a lesser degree. But that's just me.

jrgougeon · 26 March 2014, 10:52 AM

Go the 14060M Sub. Amazing watch.

lmcgbaj · 26 March 2014, 10:53 AM

Sub of course.

Laszlo · 26 March 2014, 11:11 AM

Really difficult decision. You could always get the Sub and if it doesn't work out, go back to the Explorer I 39mm. I personally think the 14060M is a gem/masterpiece.

sea-dweller · 26 March 2014, 11:14 AM

Both great watches, but if I had to only have one, it would be the Sub.

Old Expat Beast · 26 March 2014, 11:18 AM

Get an older 14060m, say a Y serial, then you will get much better value.

FTX I · 26 March 2014, 11:24 AM

Sub

Lew Archer · 26 March 2014, 11:44 AM

I'm lucky to have both. Great watches...both worthy of being your "one and only" watch. That said, if I could only have one, it would be the 14060M. Both are classic Rolexes, but for me, the 14069M is THE classic Rolex.

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26 March 2014, 07:09 AM	#1
kier333 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: london Posts: 416	Explorer 39mm or submariner ND I currently have a explorer 39mm, however lately I have been thinking about exchanging it for the last of the 14060m sub ND. Any thoughts, I love the simple lines if the explorer, I also love the sportiness of the sub. I am torn as to what to do, and hope some opinions could help me decide.

26 March 2014, 07:14 AM	#5
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,234	I have the 14060M and hopefully my next Rolex will be the Explorer I. Sounds to me like you might regret flipping the Exp, maybe save for the Sub, I really think that they compliment each other. Here's a pic to whet your appetite... Attached Images __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

26 March 2014, 07:17 AM	#7
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,248	For one watch I'd go w/ the explorer It could be sporty & dressy! It's my go to watch, works well in all settings __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

26 March 2014, 07:37 AM	#14
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Yes! There is no wrong answer. First one then the other..... I'd vote for the expy first. Less common and super comfortable. __________________ member#3242

26 March 2014, 07:42 AM	#15
Boothroyd 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,258	Have the Explorer, great watch. Just was at AD looking at Sub's, etc, today. I would have a very difficult time giving up my Explorer for a Sub. It's just too versatile. Getting both is the right answer. IMHO, anyway. __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

26 March 2014, 07:10 AM	#2
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	both great watches, but if I had the choice I would go with the sub

26 March 2014, 07:12 AM	#3
kier333 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: london Posts: 416	I guess the sub is more versatile. I would need to add some cash for the sub along with my explorer. Both are 2011 watches.

26 March 2014, 07:14 AM	#4
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,510	I really like the both watches, if I had to choose though I would go with the sub. I like sporty watches and it dresses up really well. You really can't go wrong with either watch! =)

26 March 2014, 07:15 AM	#6
nygo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Watch: Milgauss Posts: 297	sub nd

26 March 2014, 07:31 AM	#10
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,372	Between those two i pick sub

26 March 2014, 07:33 AM	#12
kier333 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: london Posts: 416	What the value of a 2011 full set 14060 - I value it around £4000, I value my explorer around £3500 2011 full set. Would you agree?

26 March 2014, 07:47 AM	#16
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	I'm a big fan of the understated, no nonsense looks and functionality of a ss DJ or Exp in 36mm and really like the 38-40mm size of the newer Exp and Sub. So, I don't think you can go wrong with either, but I've got to say that I'm always impressed with just how pretty a Sub actually is. I've worn Rolex for 40 years, and if I ever had to limit myself to one watch (any brand), I think it would be a black bezel Sub or GMT in ss or tt.

26 March 2014, 07:51 AM	#17
RUK "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Ruk Location: .ie Watch: 5711,Sub,Daytona,P Posts: 1,232	Sub Sub Sub... feels a lot better on the wrist

26 March 2014, 07:55 AM	#18
kier333 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: london Posts: 416	I think I'm even more confused now than earlier, I know they are both great watches! Decisions, decisions!

26 March 2014, 07:59 AM	#19
14060m "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Watch: 116610 , 16233 Posts: 1,802	Just read my name __________________

26 March 2014, 08:10 AM	#20
Mick P Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: UK / Spain Watch: 39mm Explorer Posts: 1,990	Chaps There is no definitive answer to this because we all have different values and taste. I value discretion above all else and I wanted a brilliant watch that I could wear all the time and I did not want anyone else to notice it. I therefore bought a 39mm Explorer1. It is a wonderfully discrete watch and it is for me at least, a watch that I will wear on the day that I die. A Sub on the other hand screams ROLEX and that alone will mean that I will never wear one. Having said that, a Sub is the watch that some of you chaps would sell your wife for, so it is in all honesty, horses for courses. Only the OP can decide on this one. Regards Mick

26 March 2014, 10:06 AM	#22
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Sub all day long

26 March 2014, 10:08 AM	#23
Boothroyd 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,258	Agree with the above, as to versatility of the Explorer. I can wear it anywhere because it flies under the radar. I like that. Were I to have a Sub (especially the C given the reflection off the bezel), I would wear it to a lesser degree. But that's just me. __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

26 March 2014, 10:52 AM	#24
jrgougeon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto Watch: 14060M & 1601 Posts: 180	Go the 14060M Sub. Amazing watch.

26 March 2014, 10:53 AM	#25
lmcgbaj "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: G Location: Canada Watch: es are FUN!!! Posts: 1,979	Sub of course. __________________ "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.* "*

26 March 2014, 11:11 AM	#26
Laszlo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,868	Really difficult decision. You could always get the Sub and if it doesn't work out, go back to the Explorer I 39mm. I personally think the 14060M is a gem/masterpiece. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

26 March 2014, 11:14 AM	#27
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Both great watches, but if I had to only have one, it would be the Sub.

26 March 2014, 11:18 AM	#28
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,825	Get an older 14060m, say a Y serial, then you will get much better value.

26 March 2014, 11:24 AM	#29
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Sub

26 March 2014, 11:44 AM	#30
Lew Archer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: L.A., Calif. Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 2,220	I'm lucky to have both. Great watches...both worthy of being your "one and only" watch. That said, if I could only have one, it would be the 14060M. Both are classic Rolexes, but for me, the 14069M is THE classic Rolex. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

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